DEFCON Mafia 3.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, Faraday continues to make me happy about my descision to nuke him the moment we hit Defcon 1.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm particularly wary of the people who go around toting the "American rage" thing.

It seems genuine coming from some players, but others seem to be trying to use it as a distraction.

Which is why I think there's a scum in Pooky/IS/SDC

And part of why Faraday needs to die.

[Swift Justice]

Yeah, Faraday continues to make me happy about my descision to nuke him the moment we hit Defcon 1.

LOOKING FORWARD TO TRADING 1/1 WITH YOUR SCUM TEAM. GG.

[Swift Justice]

and then i shall call you katsuki, and you shall be a cupcake and all the other cupcakes will laugh!

[Gammagooey]

Sooooo you two aren't crossbussin' scumz. Also Faraday looks a lot better given how dumb he would be to pull this as scum.

I'd actually like it if RC didn't die until tommorrow night so Hez can actually say Something today (and if he doesn't show up maybe he can actually get godamn NOOSED tommorrow). I'm not really expecting it but Spy if you could put your bloodlust on hold for a liiiittle bit it would be awesome.

[Swift Justice]

Sooooo you two aren't crossbussin' scumz.

what a call this is.

'swift justice' was created for a reason nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke scum (well that + my taylor swift love )

[Gammagooey]

I KNOW AREN'T I AMAZING STATING THINGS THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN SEVERAL PAGES AGO.

Soooooo amazing.

[Swift Justice]

perhaps.

[Internet Stranger]

Since we are declaring nukes, I shall be handing down a handful of swift American justice and placing a fat nuke on the Euromenace scumbag that is Vi on the very first chance I get since everyone else is blind to her socialistic media campaign and refuses to vote for her.

So should I turn up dead in my heroic attempt, someone will have to pick up the mighty proud banner of American pride and further instill the power of the American Nuke into Vi's fancy hoitty toitty European shithole of a backyard.

Dont disappoint me. Should I go down, embrace your destiny. Do it for your American sense of pride, do it for your country.

[Magister Ludi]

Gamma, what are you expecting Hez to say that would change your mind about anything? (I wouldn't mind a hammer right now.)

SpyreX, is there a reason you have asked several people to give reads on me even though you consider me town? Maybe you've done this for other people as well, but It's happened 2-3 times already for me.

[Gammagooey]

Never underestimate the power of good thought-out content.

I'm Expecting either bad content or wellz guyz i didn't get around to it until after the hammer how could you not wait for me i would have (a:on RC-townflip) told you why RC was so town I can't believe you didn't wait (b:on RC-scumflip) totally agreed with you he was scummy anyway here's some unrelated people who are totally scum with him.

[Magister Ludi]

Actually, that makes sense, and I missed SpyreX's post saying he was willing to hammer at once.

[danakillsu]

but the guy makes it impossible to find where he stands anyway.

Oh, do I now? What is it you don't understand about where I stand?

[Katsuki]

I haven't been reading, but why isn't RC dead yet?

[Swift Justice]

but the guy makes it impossible to find where he stands anyway.

Oh, do I now? What is it you don't understand about where I stand?

leave her majesty alone, you pleb.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

Oh, do I now? What is it you don't understand about where I stand?

25 players

2 scum: HezLucky, Hinduragi
4 town: Lady Lambdadelta, Gammagooey, SpyreX, AurorusVox
"Not particularly scummy to me but I ain't gonna fight this wagon": RedCoyote
"Oh, he agrees with me": SocioPath

THE ATLANTIC OCEAN IS A VERY BIG SEA.
EUROPE IS A VERY BIG PLACE.
BUT WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE?

YOU DON'T WORK WITH PEOPLE AT ALL.
IN FACT YOU SAID YOU DON'T PROVIDE MUCH CONTENT BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LISTEN TO YOU ANYWAY.

WELL, HERE IS WHY:

YOU DON'T STOP THE WAGON ON REDCOYOTE EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T THINK HE'S SCUM
YOU SKIP THE ENTIRE FUCKING WALL OF INFORMATION AND FOCUS ONLY ON THE SHIT THAT IS ABOUT YOU

HOW DARE YOU CALL US "OVERDEFENSIVE" YOU EUROPEAN SCUMBAG

DIE SCUM DIE

JUST ROLL OVER AND DIE

FARADAY, I DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK LADY LAMBDADELTA IS SCUM, WE ARE FUCKING NUKING DANAKILLSU I SWEAR BY ALL THINGS.

[Vi]

I hate making these kinds of posts.

Spoiler: Have I mentioned my fluffy sienna fur recently?

Vi why is MoI scum cause I don't see it.

*A lot of Moai's posts are useless - his "pregame" posts (the first four), the Air Base commentary, etc.
*His attempt to attack Magister Ludi is bad. Here's his response to ML's plan to nuke the worst lurker:

So before any actual voting / live Day scum-hunting goes on that might shape your theortical opinion on who is scum you’ve already decided who you would Nuke? And have phrased it is such a way that you aren’t even targeting a specific player but someone who meets and arbitrary guideline?

Gotcha. Scummy.

Ignoring that ML is generally

correct

that scum are more likely to lurk and that both of us (me and ML) just got out of a game that proved it, and the tacked-on last line, let's apply some fair and balanced journalism here.

Players on my Theoretical Nuke List – Anyone who plays deliberately in a scummy manner and wants to defend such with “Only Town would act this scummy” or any sort of Meta.

The

tu quoque

is strong in this one.
*I've asked him to back up his remark that there's a bandwagon of people who see me as scummy and asked him about who he wants to know my read on, and I haven't heard any response yet. Or would those answers get in the way of his rhetoric?
*It's strange that he's saying I'm not doing anything to push my suspects, because that's pretty much what he's doing for most of his posts.
*Moai #22 just reads horribly on an intuitive level. "He's acting like scum. He's not going to be lynched for it because other people like him. We should just nuke him." The message is fine - "SocioPath is going to act scummy, he's not going to get lynched, he's nukebait" - but the way it's phrased, particularly the "people aren't going to lynch him because he's SocioPath" seems either unusually bitter or like it's making excuses.

Your turn, GammaG. Why do you have a Town read on Moai? And I'm partly willing to ask because of this somewhat unrelated quote.

The fuck's your point? You're

[Moai]

calling me scum AGAIN this game and you are WRONGAGAIN.

Notice that SDC (Fate) seems to be assuming Moai-Town.

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On Screaming Death Clan-scum: I don't even care about the Air Base stuff. What matters is that the RECKposts in the hydra are 100% artificial. Look for yourself; start at #21 and read down. Stop when you hit anything that isn't fluff/posturing or until you get to #36. Consider the logic behind #36 (aka "scumhunting by who did what I wanted") and then keep going until Fate came back at #46. He's scum she's scum they're scum AV wagon is sexy VOTE AV he's Town have I mentioned recently how obvTown we are? This is not the fascist plague of pestilence I was expecting from a slot called Screaming Death Clan featuring someone who famously turned the lights out on Tarot Mafia and Psychic Mafia.

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inHim, can you explain 772 for me? It seems like you're trying to shush the (attempted) LLD wagon.

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RC is someone that I have named as suspicious. Although Vi isn't beyond reproach, I will probably have to dispatch that Euro scumbag via a good ol' fashioned American nuking than though a consentual lynching.

unvote; Vi
Vote: Red Coyote

Good to see we've made up with each other? This post feels weird for reasons that are probably obvious.

Vi has RE-claimed scum, and its not cute anymore.

I'll ridicule you later for the first half of this, but what do you mean I'm not cute?

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Aaaaaarrghh FINE.

Give me a nail and I'll be the hammer.

When Hez

does something reaaaly stupid

in the near future you will hear my lack of surprise echo across the universe.

what
You've been pushing HezLucky as a policy lynch AND scum, which is :?ish by itself. Now you're more concerned about HEZZZZZZZNUKER doing something stupid instead of, say, flipping scum?

I liked RC before DEFCON 3,

RedCoyote didn't say anything before DEFCON 3.

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Toastpost 799 trips a personal scumtell, but on the other hand

The only noticeable difference I see in AV’s scum meta as opposed to town meta (this is from skimming) is post length. As town, he tends to be more descriptive and spend more time making wall posts. As scum, the posts average to be around two paragraphs. That’s same length is being utilized in this game.

...this sounds nothing like the Toast I know. How many games have you played with AurorusVox, Toasty?

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I'm particularly wary of the people who go around toting the "American rage" thing.

It seems genuine coming from some players, but others seem to be trying to use it as a distraction.

Humor me. Who is the "American rage" shtick "seeming genuine" from?

tl;dr, stealing from Equinox
Town: Katsuki, Magister Ludi, HezLucky, Gammagooey
Maybe Town: SpyreX, inHimshallibe, ooba, Magua
Land of Nulldom: ToastyToast, Toogeloo, AurorusVox, Swift Justice, danakillsu
Maybe Scum: Hinduragi, Regfan, MagnaofIllusion, Mina, RedCoyote
Scum: Lady Lambdadelta, Screaming Death Clan, Internet Stranger
In Limbo: PookyTheMagicalBear, SocioPath

RedCoyote's not my top read but I don't think I've ever seen him screw up so badly, and beating a hasty retreat from the thread probably cements what everyone's thinking.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

Small request: Please don't drop the hammer yet. I'd like to get a chance to read RedCoyote and not wake up to a thread lock. I was going to do that tonight, but now I've got a headache and I don't want to do anything but lie on my bed. I am going to do just that.

Analyzing Vi later too.

[SpyreX]

Need to find out if these two quotes are connected. Are they connected, SpyreX?

Yes they're talkin about that same series of posts that put the fire under this wagon - some of what MoI et all were talking about like they've got hard busted scum walkin I didn't get. However, the A is scum and almost lynched better get that wagon up on B is soo strange I'd drop a hammer for it.

I'm particularly wary of the people who go around toting the "American rage" thing.

It seems genuine coming from some players, but others seem to be trying to use it as a distraction.

Which is why I think there's a scum in Pooky/IS/SDC

And part of why Faraday needs to die.

Pooky and IS I understand, but SDC? Maybe I'm missing it but they've got ye old standard rage versus 'merican rage?

Gamma, what are you expecting Hez to say that would change your mind about anything? (I wouldn't mind a hammer right now.)

SpyreX, is there a reason you have asked several people to give reads on me even though you consider me town? Maybe you've done this for other people as well, but It's happened 2-3 times already for me.

Fun and games and antics aside if I had to pick ONE person to survive a true Armageddon and stand victorious (assuming not me yadda yadda) - it'd be you. That's the kind of gut read I have and when somewhere along the way I get my wires crossed (I thought Vi thought you were scum?) or the like I want to see

why

.

what
You've been pushing HezLucky as a policy lynch AND scum, which is :?ish by itself. Now you're more concerned about HEZZZZZZZNUKER doing something stupid instead of, say, flipping scum?

No no no no.

I'm saying Hez most definitely isn't a town read and thus fair to middling chance of scum. Regardless of that, everything about how this game started makes me feel in my bones that giving him a chance to fire a nuke is going to have severe negative consequences.

Its not (and I'm pretty sure I never said it was) SCUM FOUND. It's culling the chaff that could maybe be scum and then high fives all around.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

unvote

vote RedCoyote

Oh Hammer how I miss ye

The only way forward is decisive action. P

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'd say who I'm nuking when I can. but I don't want a stealth bomber to drop some crap on me in the middle of the night.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

$@%#*!

Well, fuck that, then. I'm going to bed anyway.

If scum don't shoot us because LOL THEY MAD, then I shall expose the rest of the Europeans for the scum they are.

[AlmasterGM]

[Day 1, DEFCON 3 - Vote Count V - Final Vote Count]

"Don't let the name fool you. Coyote's are indigenous to North America anyways. The red just means I'm red-blooded, as in a red-blooded, gun-toating, and God-fearing American here to kick some commie ass, old school style." --RedCoyote

[Votes]

AurorusVox

(4) - Magua, HezLucky, Mina, ooba

danakillsu

(2) - gorilla, RedCoyote

Gammagooey

(0)

gorilla

(0)

HezLucky

(3) - SpyreX, Gammagooey, danakillsu

Hinduragi

(0)

inHimshallibe

(0)

Internet Stranger

(0)

Katsuki

(0)

Lady Lambdadelta

(0)

Magister Ludi

(0)

MagnaofIllusion

(0)

Magua

(0)

Mina

(0)

ooba

(0)

[PLAYERNAME] (Vi & CSL hydra)

(0)

PookyTheMagicalBear

(0)

RedCoyote

(13) - Regfan, Magister Ludi, inHimshallibe, MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta, [PLAYERNAME] (Vi & CSL hydra), Hinduragi, Katsuki, AurorusVox, Internet Stranger, Screaming Death Clan, ToastyToast, PookyTheMagicalBear

Regfan

(1) - SocioPath

Screaming Death Clan

(0)

SocioPath

(0)

SpyreX

(0)

Swift Justice

(0)

ToastyToast

(0)

Toogeloo

(0)

Not voting

(2) - Toogeloo, Swift Justice

[Activity]

The deadline is Monday, 27 June at 23:59 EST. Thirteen votes are required to lynch.
No prods currently needed.

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"Well, what do you have, General?"
"We've got a target, sir."
"...RedCoyote? Who is he?"
"He's the field commander of one of our nuclear facilities."
"...Huh? What does that have to do with the situation in the North Atlantic?"
"Mr, President, if I may ... I believe the two are related. I have reason to believe there are traitors in our midst."
"...god damn it, George. You swore to me we were done with this shit."
"Yes, but that was before..."
"George, you know I think you are a perfectly capable tactician..."
"...the security threat level..."
"...brilliant in fact, which is why I was so adamant you get this position..."
"...was raised."
"...but this nonsense has GOT to stop. Now. We have an actual situation to deal with. What the HELL are you doing sending me on this goose chase right now?"
"Mr President, I don't see how you can not act on such a serious matter."
"I understand the nature of the threat. I really do. But you cannot run a military that is scared of its own shadow. The era of McCarthyism is over. We will not accuse anyone of treason without proof. Do you have proof, George?"
"Not yet. But we will."
"What do you mean 'not yet?'"
"Well, you see, under the PATRIOT Act, we are authorized to detain indivi..."
"Dear god, you didn't."

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RedCoyote's military jeep had just pulled in front of Nuclear Launch Facility XR-514, located in Oregon. RedCoyote cracked his knuckles, slid his sunglasses on, and stepped out of the vehicle.
"Good morning, solider," he said to the gate MP, handing over his paperwork.
The MP peered down at the paper, back up at RedCoyote, back down at the paper, and then up again before speaking.
"I'm truly sorry, sir, but I'm going to have to ask you to relinquish your weapon."
"What?" RedCoyte responded. "I'm the commander of this facility, and am permitted..."
"You are under arrest, sir."
"WHAT?!?! What for?"
"I'm sorry, sir, but I'm not authorized to say."
"The hell you aren't. I'm entitled to know, and I'm not giving you my weapon until you tell me what's going on."
"Sir, hand over your weapon or we will be forced to take it from you."
"Now you listen to me, private. You tell me what I'm being accused..."
"Sir, under the USA PATRIOT Act, you are being..."
"PATRIOT ACT MY ASS. That doesn't apply here and you know it!"
"Sir. Please."
RedCoyote grimaced and handed over his weapon.
"Someone is going to regret this, you know that?" he said. "I have been a perfectly dedicated officer for decades. A true patriot. What in the hell...damned politicians. Damn them all to hell."

RedCoyote (American, Missile silo) was arrested for treason Day 1.

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It is now Night 1. The deadline is Sunday, 19 June at 12:00 EST. Please submit all actions by this time.

[AlmasterGM]

[Day 2, DEFCON 2]

"I can't believe you had one of our nuclear facility commanders arrested without clearing it with me first. Or without any evidence."
"I did what I thought was nessecary, Mr President."
"But it ended up being completely unnessecary, didn't it? If anything like this ever happens again, I am going to demand your resignation. Understood?"
"Yes, sir."
"Good. Now let's figure out how to address the threat in the Atlantic."
"Yes, sir. Their craft have not slowed or changed their course. Have you been in touch with the President of the EU?"
"Apparently he is 'unavalible' ... which is a load of bullshit, if you ask me. I'm the President of the United States. He should make himself avalible. I've telephoned the EU Ambassador and he is on his way over now."
"I agree. I'm going to get in touch with my team and get that conventional response ready ASAP."
"Good. While you're at it, also...
"Hold on sir, there's a new report just coming in now...my god."
"Yes?
"...there's been an attack. On our soil."
"What?! Who? Where? What's the magnitude?"
"Utah."
"Utah? What the hell? Those cruisers can't possibly have that kind of operational range. And what about our detection systems?"
"Details are still streaming in, but apparently a tractor trailer burst its way through security at one of our nuclear facilities, drove straight up to the primary launch pad, and then ... exploded."
"What is this, some kind of dirty trick?"
"It doesn't seem this is connected to the Atlantic incident, sir. It is likely a separate act of terrorism."
"That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. European forces cruising right outside our territorial waters in the east .. while some random terrorist takes out our nuclear response capabilities out west? Bullshit. Do we have any real leads on who might be responsible?"
"Not at this moment, sir. Investigations are obviously being launched now."
"Shit shit shit ... and the missile cruisers are still..."
"...still moving at full speed ahead, sir."
"God. What the hell are the Europeans playing at?"
"Your guess is as good as mine, sir ... but they're up to something, that's for sure."
"...We really are on the brink of an international crisis, aren't we?"
"Yes, Mr President. We need to respond. What are your orders?"
"Bring us down to DEFCON 2. I want everyone on alert. Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, NORAD ... everybody."
"Yes, sir. Good decision."
"Move all our assets here down to the Situation Room. I want full, live reports streaming in so we aren't dealing with any lag in communications. And assemble the Joint Chiefs. We're going to need to plan for the worst."
"Right away, sir."
"Don't let me down. This is our last chance to bring things under control before this blows up in all of our faces."

SpyreX (American, Missile silo) was blown up Night 1.

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It is now Day 2, DEFCON 2. The deadline is Sunday, 3 July at 23:59 EST.

[Gammagooey]

Vote: HezLucky

@Vi- Most of it isn't really big town stuff on its own but there's a decent amount of stuff that I think is more likely to come from town than scum.
I think that MoI missing counterintelligence having the unobservable QT part is slightly more likely to come from town than scum (yes still even though VVscum pulled it in holographica)
plus picking up on AV saying SDC getting the air base would be terrifying despite having a town read on him although I get why he would say that as town (having someone screaming at you and others the whole game isn't pleasant even if you think they're town
plus I was thinking the same thing he was with Faraday in metamafia.