Fall of the Matrix: Game Over!

[Patrick]

Picking up on a question from earlier, the vote of someone who has been replaced still stands if the replacement hasn't changed it.

[Death Ninja]

So that means that bristep has built in excuse, don't let him off the hook tomorrow like you have been with other wagons. He has posted once since his ola post in another game on the 10th, so he could have came on and unvoted before reading the thread.

This half of the hydra has grown tired of trying to convince you all, you are all either scum (duh) or town who is tired, and don't want to reassess scumreads until tomorrow when you have too, or IS who recent post is that he wants this slot lynched so he can get ABR lynched (so no matter what I do, not going to get the unvote). This slot has done everything the town has asked of it, but later than they liked. There are those who will say it was too late and the only other possible lynch was worse. That's an easy out. In the end, they voted for someone for inactivity because it was blantant (anti-scum and anti-town), even though there were others who are sneaky about it (making enough posts to not be prodded, but at the same time not really scumhunting), and then refused to unvote when the slot became active because it was late in the day. These are the facts. Don't give these people free passes. Same with yesterday's wagons on confirmed town Surye and vezok.

I'm sure RC will post more, since he's more committed, but I think we've said all we could, and pointed you in the right direction after we are dead. It's now up to you on whether you ignore us tomorrow or not.


So goodnight, and good luck.

[Death Ninja]

Yeah, this. ^

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And these:

Toon Fighter analysis:

Initial reaction to Vezok's claim is to believe it, singles out DeathNote as scummy. The contradiction he points out just isn't there. This was a fairly serious point in the case that was made on TF before. There's a weird FoS on mozamis which doesn't really make any sense, because mozamis had been fairly active up to that point and certainly providing more input than most other players. There's another contradiction where he points out a flaw in the reasoning of the Furcwagon yet still hops on it, just for pressure reasons.

Important post. Amrun noted many of these things yesterday, and here's TF's defense. I don't see how mozamis is scummy. Quite the opposite, in fact, as his posts look pro-town to me.

Hey. I don't trust Furc's claim and I think we should lynch him anyway. Vezo also claimed 'nilla and that only motivated people to lynch him (and other people not to lynch him, but you know that, it was most of our D1 discussion).

We now have 2 D1 vanilla claims. We should lynch one of them, otherwise we risk outing a power role. Furc has been acting scummier than Vez the entire game. His pseudo vote on himself is garbage, he didn't even unvote, and our mod is very strict about it. I say we go forward with Furc lynch.

Doesn't feel right to me. He was defensive of Vezok before but not expresses that he thinks Vezok is the only alternative to Furc.

Opens Day 2 with a Kublai Khan vote over the Surye-wagon. No mention of previous suspicions.

First of all, UNVOTE: . My vote is useless where it is right now, and that was a dumb vote anyway. Kublai Khan is posting more, but I still believe he could be more active and/or try to bring new stuff to the game. So far, he has repeated other players and commented on some thing others said. He is getting better, and I am gonna give him the benefit for now.

But one player whose game I am not appreciating is ABR. Look how active, defensive and aggressive he turned yesterday after he had a couple of votes on him. That seems like some scum cracking under pressure. He didn't do much so far in this game, as well, and had useless votes throughout D1. He recently voted IS without any real justification, and it seems to me that HIS defence of Surye yesterday was for town points, not other players defence of Vez.

Also, the RC wagon is horrid

. He may have been lacking in the posting department recently, but that sudden wagon reeks of opportunism and scumminess. Also, the players joining that new wagon are (except from me) the same who joined Furc's yesterday. I know this may sound hypocrite, but I believe that Sens and Poro (and Brian) could be in the same scum team, and trying to bandwaggon another (town) player that is lurking and not posting much (albeit Furc and RC were lurking for different reasons) and getting a policy/quicklynch to harm town. I still maintain that Furc may be scum, but since that trio is now together on a different player, I find that unlikely.

Since ABR just claimed vig, and I see no reason to keep voting him, I

unvote

I am looking at the case on RC again, and, despite being led by SensFan, whom I still don't like much, I don't like that he keeps lurking and just trying to slide by after he was caught doing it. Plus, his vote on IS is just terribad.

vote: RC

@ LF: I am a pro-town program, I am not a miller

That's basically the end of his posts. Not much beyond there.

The main issue I have with his posts is that his suspicions are all over the place. New players are suspicious out of the blue, while other players simply drop off the suspect list without a single word (DeathNote, Mozamis, Furc). The vote on RC really does it for me. It's a complete 180 since he called the wagon horrid just a week before.

I'm honestly okay with this lynch. It's better than our hydra for sure.

Unvote, Vote: Toon Fighter

(though I'd like to note that I unvoted ages ago but the mods apparently missed it)

Vote Toonfighter

DeathNinja is stupidly obvious town.

Listen to these words; for they are wise. ^

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My wagon is at 10 as of now; Toon Fighter's wagon is at 8.

All it takes is the people not voting TF to switch their votes to TF (dramonic, MrBuddyLee, and ABR), and then ONE person (Ranmaru, I'm looking at you) to switch their vote from me to TF. Then today will be wrapped up with a scum lynch and we can all rejoice.

[Death Ninja]

Prodded everyone who hasn't posted within the last 48 hours, except for NS who has already been replaced by dramonic.

If they don't show up, then it's pretty clear that they're lurking to try to get me lynched at deadline.

As Dumbledore would say: "I implore you to see reason".

And as ReaperCharlie would say: "

unvote; Vote: Toon Fighter

"

I bet he's crapping his pants in his scum QT right now.

[Primate]

RC unless I'm mistaken all that needs to happen is he has more votes than you at deadline. That happens and deadline rules kick in and lynch him.

[Ranmaru]

I don't actually think that would happen.

[Primate]

Each Day phase will last no longer than 3 weeks. Deadlines are subject to the Helios mechanic. At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch to occur. In case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur.

[Patrick]

At deadline the player with most votes is lynched.

[Ranmaru]

Each Day phase will last no longer than 3 weeks. Deadlines are subject to the Helios mechanic. At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch to occur. In case of a tie, the person who first received the

required number

of votes will be lynched.

If this number is not met

, a

No Lynch will occur

.

That is why I thought that wouldn't happen. D:

[Primate]

That's the ½ the original number of votes. So currently 6. Half the majority of votes.

[Ranmaru]

Ah, I thought he was talking about majority haha.

[Ranmaru]

Btw, I'm not moving off.

[Toon Fighter]

Have we reached Deadline?

[MrBuddyLee]

@Toonfighter:

You conveniently ignored:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3117803

@Charlie

:
If you're town, you wasted a day for all of us, and played right into scum's hands. Thanks for replacing in.

unvote, vote: ToonFighter

I believe a wagon-switch by any Charlie voter right now would lynch ToonFighter.

[dramonic]

Try not to be in incredible pain MoS <_<
Also holy shit thread.

[Patrick]

Final Votecount:

Death Ninja (10) - (BrianMcQueso, SensFan, Internet Stranger, bristep123, Yosarian2, Ranmaru, Toon Fighter, Medicated Lain, Cogito Ergo Sum, Porochaz)
Toon Fighter (8) - (Kublai Khan, Kison, HezLucky, DeathNote, Death Ninja, LlamaFluff, Zindaras, Primate)
DeathNote (1) - (Albert B. Rampage)
SensFan (1) - (MrBuddyLee)
Ranmaru (1) - (dramonic)

With 21 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is Sunday, June 12th at 9:00 PM GMT. MBLs vote came after deadline and wasn't counted.

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Death Ninja, Townie, lynched day 2

Deadline is 72 hours, send night-actions to MoS. Nobody post here during night.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Thread locked, will update other stuff when I have time, hopefully tomorrow or Tuesday. Need to go to the doctor tomorrow. :/

[Mastermind of Sin]

Night 2:

I don't have time to write up the flavor tonight, so I'll add it later and get the day started now.

Internet Stranger, Townie, Killed Night 2
Yosarian2, Townie, Killed Night 2
LlamaFluff, Morpheus, Cop, Killed Night 2

HezLucky, Agent, Matrix Goon, Killed Night 2

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, July 1st, 12:01 AM CST

[BrianMcQueso]

I think it is reasonable to say that LlamaFluff actually had a result on DeathNote all along.

...right?

vote: DeathNote

[Ranmaru]

I don't know. Llama said he had a reason for doing it. It seemed like he was desperate to get it out.

I think we should look back at his reads and see if he crumbed anything.

I'm ok with a Deathnote wagon also, because of the way he reacted to Llama's claim. (He reacted as if he KNEW Llama was wrong, but didn't try to call Llama obv scum for it or anything)

Vote: Deathnote

[Ranmaru]

Btw, what of Llama's Cult recruiter result?

[MrBuddyLee]

Attention scumbags:

Due to a glitch in the Matrix your vote now counts twice; use it to eliminate Cogito Ergo Sum (Serial Killer).

Is that the best you can do with your scum Messenger ability?

[Ranmaru]

Btw Kublei Khan should be back by now.

Hmmm, that's weird. MBL, do you think you can test that out? What are your thoughts of there being an SK in the game?

Also need thoughts from Dramonic, since he replaced in for NS. I think he's at goof bash tho. :/

[Kison]

I think it is reasonable to say that LlamaFluff actually had a result on DeathNote all along.

...right?

vote: DeathNote

No. His play yesterday does not at all suggest that.

[Ranmaru]

No? Why do you think Llama tried to do that then?