NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[Ethos]

You're the one who brought his newbie status into this and yet the rest of your argument falls apart when you don't sweep that under the rug.

...No, it really doesn't.

Regardless of whether he is a newbie or not it is still a towntell. I think the fact that he is a newbie makes it more of a towntell.

[Ethos]

1. Continual filler = 5 posts?
2. Backpedaling = not backpedaling and being obstinate?
3. Reaction = I hate this site = town?

1. Yes. Five fluff posts none with any real scumhunting attempt or town thought processes show is filler.
2. He did backpedal, he went from "I was baiting a reaction" to "It was RVS".
3. Yes. Town being piled on early in the game often get frustrated and complain about the game whereas scum getting piled on panic, flail and generally claim.

Regfan

(The previous posts have been Slaxx's)

[Ythan]

You're the one who brought his newbie status into this and yet the rest of your argument falls apart when you don't sweep that under the rug.

...No, it really doesn't.

Regardless of whether he is a newbie or not it is still a towntell. I think the fact that he is a newbie makes it more of a towntell.

I don't really know how to explain this any more plainly to you. You're wrong. If you're both wrong then fortunately you're a hydra and not two wasted votes.

[SpyreX]

1. Yes. Five fluff posts none with any real scumhunting attempt or town thought processes show is filler.
2. He did backpedal, he went from "I was baiting a reaction" to "It was RVS".
3. Yes. Town being piled on early in the game often get frustrated and complain about the game whereas scum getting piled on panic, flail and generally claim.

1.) Versus T-Bone's 4 what makes KKB the SUPREME NEMISIS?
2.)

because RVS, i dunno, only excuse i can make,

besides the other reasons i have said

, and i wasn't trying to cover it up, i was giving explanation to my votes and my reasons.

He's holding to it and still didn't actually answer the questions presented.
3.) Ohh you mean like:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3130139
or:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3130093

[Ythan]

Ethos is speaking in ridiculous absolutes imo.

[SpyreX]

Selective absolutes and I don't understand it.

I dont even know if a Bookie would be worth this defense. Definitely not the other scum roles.

[Ethos]

Ethos is speaking in ridiculous absolutes imo.

What was the point of this post?

[Ythan]

For now Parabollocks can you provide links to your offsite scum-games.

Specifying only scum games invalidates what you are pretending to be doing here btw.

Ethos is speaking in ridiculous absolutes imo.

What was the point of this post?

To criticize you for using ridiculous absolutes. Selective ones, as Spyre contributed.

[Ethos]

I'm honestly baffled as to why people aren't reading the taking credibility for the wagon as either

1. Indicative they are both scum
2. Indicative he is town

[Ythan]

Unvote

We lynch off of this wagon.

Hiraki was the last vote on the wagon before he made this post.

[Ythan]

I'm honestly baffled as to why people aren't reading the taking credibility for the wagon as either

1. Indicative they are both scum
2. Indicative he is town

Because your argument is dumb.

[SpyreX]

Something about "what is the point of this" when not addressing my more words speaks volumes

[Ethos]

I don't really know how to explain this any more plainly to you. You're wrong. If you're both wrong then fortunately you're a hydra and not two wasted votes.

We'll do this the long way then. Please answer the following questions:

1) Do you believe Oversoul would come in, vote Idher and instantly attempt to claim credit for the wagon start if they were partners together?
2) Do you believe Oversoul would come in, vote Idher and instantly attempt to claim credit for the wagon start if it were to result in a town-flip?

1.) Versus T-Bone's 4 what makes KKB the SUPREME NEMISIS?
2.) He's holding to it and still didn't actually answer the questions presented.
3.) Ohh you mean like: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3130139 or: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3130093

1. T-Bone actually presented reasonable content in Post #123 whereas the extent of Kayens includes him asking a player if they were mafia or not.
2. I don't disagree that he hasn't answered the questions presented however he did backpedal from I was baiting for a reaction to It's a good RVS vote.
3. I was thinking more along the lines of this post, perhaps reading a few of his games would explain why this sort of comment reads as a town-tell.

Ethos is speaking in ridiculous absolutes imo.

Our reads are not rock solid, if they were we would be yelling for everyone to unvote Para however I believe it's needed to mention them as we attain them.

Regfan

[Ythan]

a lot of unbiased posts

holy crap, i must be a terrible player.

And Parabollocks was able to respond to this and yet not to points and questions against him.

[Ethos]

Spyrex, chill. Right now it is Reg Vs. Spyrex and Ythan Vs. Slaxx, though Ythan has decided to completely close the discussion off with insults, which is fine with me, I'm fucking tired of his dense ass anyway.

[SpyreX]

1.) No. You can't go after the fact for before the fact. We're talking about WHEN he voted him. If the argument is who stepped it up since then yes the winner is T-Bone who's actually a pretty town read.
2.) No. It isn't backpedal its padding. Its never rescinded.
3.) OHH META ok then.

I'm not going to chill if you two can't play nice with your hydra aint my problem

[Ythan]

1) Do you believe Oversoul would come in, vote Idher and instantly attempt to claim credit for the wagon start if they were partners together?
2) Do you believe Oversoul would come in, vote Idher and instantly attempt to claim credit for the wagon start if it were to result in a town-flip?

1 is definitely possible. 2 is not out of the question.

Our reads are not rock solid, if they were we would be yelling for everyone to unvote Para however I believe it's needed to mention them as we attain them.

This has absolutely nothing to do with your dealing in absolutes.

Spyrex, chill. Right now it is Reg Vs. Spyrex and Ythan Vs. Slaxx, though Ythan has decided to completely close the discussion off with insults, which is fine with me, I'm fucking tired of his dense ass anyway.

Lol what. I'm not doing anything like that. Flail scum flail.

[Ythan]

Scum is in Hiraki, Ethos, Parabollocks. Will vote for any of these lynches.

[Ethos]

What do you call "Your argument is dumb" if it isn't closing off discussion? It sure as fuck isn't opening discussion up.

Tell me exactly how I respond to "You argument is dumb".

Also, lol@ calling me flailing scum. Here's a protip: look at my scum games. I don't flail as scum. And I'm not flailing here either, at all. I'm sticking by this read because despite what you say its logical and it makes sense to me. If you don't like it, okay, fine, we have a difference of opinions, it happens. But I'm right and you're wrong, ftr.

[Ethos]

1.) No. You can't go after the fact for before the fact. We're talking about WHEN he voted him. If the argument is who stepped it up since then yes the winner is T-Bone who's actually a pretty town read.
2.) No. It isn't backpedal its padding. Its never rescinded.
3.) OHH META ok then.

1. Not at all, his vote was placed just after Kayne had stated 'Hiraki are you mafia' which is entirely filler therefore I find his vote highly reasonable, especially considering if I were to vote at that period of the game my vote would also have gone there. I can agree with the T-Bone town read though.
2. I consider someone saying A and then changing to B 'backpedaling' perhaps I have a misconception of what the word means but it changes nothing in regards to my read on him.
3. Yes, I've played a game with Para-town and Slaxx has modded and observed a game where Para was town, it's the reason I asked for a scum-game of his to compare them.

Regfan

[Ythan]

What do you call "Your argument is dumb" if it isn't closing off discussion? It sure as fuck isn't opening discussion up.

If you can't get simple facts through your head I'm not going to waste my time pounding them in for more than a post or two.

Tell me exactly how I respond to "You argument is dumb".

Stop making dumb arguments.

Also, lol@ calling me flailing scum. Here's a protip: look at my scum games. I don't flail as scum. And I'm not flailing here either, at all. I'm sticking by this read because despite what you say its logical and it makes sense to me. If you don't like it, okay, fine, we have a difference of opinions, it happens. But I'm right and you're wrong, ftr.

Yeah no. Your self-meta and refusal to call your flailing spade a spade doesn't mean shit.

[Ethos]

1 is definitely possible. 2 is not out of the question.

Not the question. Do you believe 1 or 2 is the case here, it's a simple yes or no question.

Regfan.

[SpyreX]

1.) At that point KKB had 5 fluffy posts. T-Bone had 4 fluffy posts. Leaving the fact that fluffy posts there doesn't even bother ME the lord of hate I dont even know.
2.) A no B is a lot different than A AND B. Which is what he did. A is the obstinate bit I'm talking about.
3.) And again OHHH META snap. Meta is ffffffff

[Ythan]

That was two separate questions actually.

That's how you posted it.

Are you seriously going to be doing this all day.

[xRECKONERx]

Chair (1): T-Bone
Parabollocks (7): The Mask, Ythan, Untrod Tripod, Chair, SpyreX, Quilford, Swag136
Hiraki (2): dramonic, kanyeknowsbest
Îdher (1): Oversoul
Swag136 (1): kunkstar7
Knight of Cydonia (1): Knight of Cydonia
Oversoul (1): Parabollocks
kanyeknowsbest (1): Ethos

Not voting: Îdher, Hiraki

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-06-27 21:00:00).
With

17

alive, it takes

9

votes to lynch!
The Mask is V/LA until June 16th.
dramonic is V/LA until June 16th.