DEFCON Mafia 3.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No read yet on Magua, sorry.

I don't develop reads as quickly as the people of this generation, who go OMG HE POSTED ONCE HE'S TOWN/SCUM GUARANTEED.

I need to figure out how to do this, because they tend to be right more than I do.

What's with the personality change? Why have you dropped the "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH" attitude for this more docile one?

And why must your posts make me cringe?

[HezLucky]

Sometimes I'm overexcitable. Sometimes I'm mad. Sometimes I don't care. I do believe this makes me human.

Why get myself excited over nuking if it's clear I won't make it that far?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Sometimes I'm overexcitable. Sometimes I'm mad. Sometimes I don't care. I do believe this makes me human.

Why get myself excited over nuking if it's clear I won't make it that far?

Fine.

What's your opinion on Regfan?

[Vi]

Re: CSL - AlmasterGM asked that there only be one account posting in the thread at a time. We agreed it would be me. Yes, I registered our hydra before the game began. No, it still hasn't been activated yet.

Re: "My last post to Mina" - That's terribly vague.
Re: "the beginnings of buddying/WKing you" - Don't worry, that's the last of it.

@Mina: in SAIII where I was town, I drew a lot of early heat on D1, from Scum SpyreX and SK-hopeful-MoI, in particular. You read me as town then. I'm seeing parallels to that game...but no Mina townread? This upsets me.

Or was it Faraday that read me as town then?

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Also, I am of the opinion that Internet Stranger must be lynched.

[AurorusVox]

No read yet on Magua, sorry.

Hm. I was under the impression you thought I was scum because I thought you was scum.
Magua also thinks your scum but you're not screaming hot death at him.

You can't blame it on me "baiting" you because you were calling me out straight after my first post about you being scummy - i.e. before we'd even engaged in our back-and-forth.

And if you try to say that me saying I thought you were scummy is "baiting," then I don't even know what to say to you.

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@Vi;

VOTE: AurorusVox

FOS: Anyone voting for someone other than AurorusVox

It is incredible how easy he is to read.

You'll forgive me if I don't take your word for it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Anyone who wants to lynch me or IS is obviously a scumbag or euro sympathizer that is cowering in fear of our wellpointed nuclear weapons.

[Katsuki]

I'm failing to see where all these

"Toog taking CI = town"

reads are coming from.

Scum saying that would be trapping themselves.

Interesting.

[Katsuki]

Anyone who wants to lynch me or IS is obviously a scumbag or euro sympathizer that is cowering in fear of our wellpointed nuclear weapons.

Just for the lols, IS didn't even have a nuke in the last game.

[Gammagooey]

@Hez- Godamn that's a lot of Magna tunneling. But I still think you're likely scum. I don't see the effort that you've put into your other games here and I can very easily see you trying to imitate your town meta as scum by going off at everyone who questions you like you've done here.

@Everyone else- You get a *surprise* after dinner. You may or may not be dissapointed.

[ToastyToast]

I'm failing to see where all these

"Toog taking CI = town"

reads are coming from.

Scum saying that would be trapping themselves.

Interesting.

That said, Toog's claim looks townish, both because the execution is townish, and because it's too bold a move for scum after Katsuki's auto-nuke dictate--particularly since Eavesdrop could out them if it doesn't get results one night.

To clear that up

[ToastyToast]

Anyone who wants to lynch me or IS is obviously a scumbag or euro sympathizer that is cowering in fear of our wellpointed nuclear weapons.

What about IS strikes you as town? I notice that you took on a similar guise as soon as IS entered with the whole "euro sympathizer" thing. What made you change your posting?

[ToastyToast]

Anyone who wants to lynch me or IS is obviously a scumbag or euro sympathizer that is cowering in fear of our wellpointed nuclear weapons.

What about IS strikes you as town? I notice that you took on a similar guise as soon as IS entered with the whole "euro sympathizer" thing. What made you change your posting?

Ugh triple post. The whole AMERICA FUK YEA thing was there already, but you seemed to immediately flock to IS' playing style.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you think IS is going to survive to endgame?

[Magua]

@Everyone else- You get a *surprise* after dinner. You may or may not be dissapointed.

I hope it's a pony.

I've always wanted a pony.

[Gammagooey]

~Surprise~
Reads!

list-wise:

Towntowntown

Mina

Leaning town

Katsuki
inhims
Magua
Vi (also not scum with Zhero/IS)
Gorilla
Regfan
Magister Ludi

Loud dudes in Nullsville

SDC
Socio
Pooky
Toasty

Null Dudes in Nullsville

Dana
Hinduragi
ooba
RC
Toog

Not scum with Hez

AV
SpyreX (he's actually leaning hard town but this category was lonely)

Leaning Scum

LLD
Swift Justice

Scum

Zhero/IS
Hez

There are so many people in this game.
ANYWAY.


Reads I'm stealing from other people: Mina and Katsuki are both very likely town, though Mina kicks it up a notch to towntowntown. I can't see Mina's isos 5 and 6 coming from scum- the Faraday suspicion is a good one IMO and Mina's thought process with Vi is town. Katsuki read isn't quite as strong but I don't think she'd bring up the nobody gets counterintelligence plan as scum.


IS and Hez can both die and I've said why already- IFFFFFFF Hez actually starts being useful then IS can die before him but for me to make the if that big it would take up this entire page.

Faraday's part of swift justice isn't hitting any town notes. Well, he's hitting ONE of having a lot of the same reads that I do (mag/mina/kats town) but that's really not a towntell coming from him.

LLD's iso 4 wording still bugs me but the inhims stuff makes sense now- I'd probably put her in between null and leaning scum but I have more than enough categories already.

Mydarkestsecret-AV isn't a terrible lynch but he doesn't make any sense as Hez's buddy and his recent posts are decent- I'd also really like to hear everyone's reasons for the wagon because despite a lot of the wagoneers looking townie I would like to hear exactly why you think he's scum- I know a lot of you have said gut but explaining what posts give you the twitches at least would help a lot for either finding scum on his wagon or sniffing out bussers getting on.

Oh, one more thing.
DOUBLE SURPRISE.
MAGUA IT'S A PONY!

Spoiler:

DO YOU LIKE IT?

[Gammagooey]

Oh Toasty should have be in the Null guys category but it doesn't really matter since it's basically the same category split into two sections because I felt like it so. Yeah.

[MagnaofIllusion]

DO YOU LIKE IT?

No. Your list has 23 reads on it and there are 24 players in the game other than yourself.

I feel slighted.

[Gammagooey]

YOU'RE NOT MAGUA DON'T TAKE HIS PONY

And oh yeah YOU. You're leaning town. your iso 4 is good and so far it certainly looks better than your metamafia play so >_>

[Magua]

[gorilla]

so like

AV's recent posting actually gives me pause about him like the stuff he's saying. I was reading for his ISO looking for cogent reasons to vote him and I couldn't. Thing is, I like most (but not all) of the players on his wagon, while I feel much less good about the players on the comparatively slower hez wagon. scum = town, town = scum?? hrm. I have completely inarticulate suspicions of Magna, spyrex, and LLD

I thought Hez looked like a wounded gazelle being singled out, though admittedly I have no knowledge of his meta to know if he normally digs his own grave or not. AV reminded me of fish-slap mafia with his questioning of him in that way.

This is a blatant lie, you followed part of my Jungle Republic game in which Hez was town meaning you should have some knowledge of his meta.

Not really, no. I skimmed some of the pages at the end, and didn't particularly pay attention to his posts, I certainly didn't read the entire game.

(also you're still mafia because we can never be on the same side)

vote: HezLucky

Glad to see we've got 4 blatantly pro-town players. It gives me a little faith in the American people.

actually, screw it, i'm going to follow my heart here - this is a scummy post

VOTE: dana

[Katsuki]

@Gamma: AV is scum for iso #5, and giving off general vibes that remind me of DEFCON 2.0.

[SpyreX]

Ahhh the freedom of home.

but

a) I've said that I'd consider nuking you and only you.
b) You aren't even convinced I'm scum (as by your post on the previous page)
and
c) I've clearly calmed down a bit in the past few days and stopped ZOMFG RAGE that started tihs business to begin with.

And you're still voting for me. Quite self-preservationist.

Lets not play coy.

You went IMMA NUKE GAMMA and I said that is ffffff and then you said IMMA NUKE YOU which is even more fffffff.

At this point, in this game, I'm not trusting this ohh I turned a new leaf guyz business ONE bit. So you die.

So yea if you want to call it self preservation sure because I sure as hell dont want to eat it in this game to a junk nuke. But, that's not what started it.

1) Zhero's posts were crap, but Zhero was never under fire. To the best of my knowledge, no one even threatened to nuke him.

*cough*

I would like to add Zhero to the death list.
I want Hez dead before he has a chance to kill Gamma.

So I can assume that you are more confident in your Hez-read. Thank you.

Ohh don't get me wrong. He's got a fair to middlin chance to be scum, but I'm not pushing that as a OMG SCUM BUSTED by any means and I'm frank and forthright about this.

It is for death.

[Internet Stranger]

Otherwise, all this mass speculation is garbage. Every person that made a list of tells are the most likely to be Eurotrash Scum. Once DEFCON 3 hits, you will be learning a lesson in American Pride and Justice. The Fist of pure American Righteousness will rain down like the Rains of Victory on the day that Patriotic Americans won their Independence from the wrongful socialist European Hegemony. We have done it once, we can do it again.

Im coming for you European Scum during DEFCON 3, count on it.

As promised, here are the bastard Eurotrash scum that are attempting to manipulate the game early on by subliminally putting out these bullshit lists of scum/town without any useful information. This is no different than Socialist listing and establishing a class system. I said that anyone trying to pull this Anti-American stunt was scum. Declaring one scum falls in line with the true American way. Giving reads on some people is American. Declaring whole lists of town/scum seemingly at random this early on is Socialist and scummy.

Here are the people putting out lists starting on DEFCON 4 (In Order):

1) SDC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p3119277
2) SDC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3119282
3) Ooba: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p3119408
4) Vi: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p3119689
5) Lambda: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3119765
6) Ooba: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p3120190
7) Spyrex: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3121742
8) SDC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3121785
9) Regfan: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3121965
10) RC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3125072

DEFCON 3

11) Regfan: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p3129888
12) Gammgooey: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3130655


None of these people are Nostrafuckingdamus. They are European scumbags trying to find a way to poison the town mind with utter nonsense. SDC tried it three times, Regfan 1.5, the others are just opportunists. You will find your scum within these names. Obviously not all of them are European scum that threaten my American way of life, but this where you will find at least one, if not two of these Eurotrash scum.

Vi is especially pushing this bullshit on Zhero extra hard. For someone that is supposed to be the MafiaScum equivalent of Superman, hell the entire Justice League, he is using especially weak newbie reasoning to plant that crapass vote on me. He suddenly finds scum on two useless posts from Zhero and then his disappearance (Which is really a blessing since you now have me to find the Euroscum)? Really?

On top of that, Vi is trying to act like a White Knight. All those White Knight fuckers need to die. White Knights are always scum.

OMGUS!

Vote: Vi

[Internet Stranger]

Oh, and of course, should Vi not be lynched by DEFCON 1, he is eating my nuke. Just sayin'.

[SpyreX]

You gonna call Vi out on that but I get a free pass considering I wanted Zhero dead from the getout?

I can't even formulate right the not-quite-irony of a list of names in a post complaining about lists.