DEFCON Mafia 3.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Swift Justice]

and yeah, SDC's plan has holes in it. i'd be up for it if not, there's another potential problem that hasn't been pointed out too, but yeah,.

[Swift Justice]

computer says no SpyreX

[SpyreX]

Cool then lets not play random yelling interrogation time if thats who you were yelling at.

[Swift Justice]

anyone who says shit like i quoted in 347 is going to get yelled at. it's my biggest pet peeve in mafia.

[ToastyToast]

Toasty, would you mind giving me a read (or even sentence or two) on the following players:
Reg Swift Socio
I'm interested in your thoughts, and there is no reason to wait until DEFCON 3 to hear them.

Regfan: He was relatively...distanced from the setup discussions, but I do find his recent list to be protown. If I have any questions for him it would be:
Why is Socio a higher suspect for you than both LLD and Toog, if you have no posts to go off of? Also, what about my combination of scummy and townie posts places me in the scum list when compared to those of Dana and Ooba?

Other than those concerns, Reg is leaning town. I've played a game with him in which he was scum, so I'm gonna do a meta check once I stop being lazy.

Swift: I'm not a fan (but he's totes null)
1) The whole total war is fun thing. He seems to have a joking attitude towards it, so I can't tell if he legitimately just wants to nuke everyone. Also, "fun" isn't exactly a good reason from a town-winning standpoint.

2)Convo with Mina. Calls her town, saying scumMina wouldn't try to break the game or think about setup spec. Then calls her scum and says his townread on her was a trap. My gut is telling me that this wasn't actually some gambit, as he is suggesting.

(it was pretty obviously a fucking joke, I'm not going to change my town read on her just because she thinks I should, in fact since she didn't even see why she was a town read in the first place, idc)

Seriously, stop changing your mind if you want

stop trying to discredit me by saying my posts aren't serious. what do you think of my points?

This to happen.

3) Faraday knows me from skypemafia. Find it strange that they compare me to quadz (srsly, sign your sig its confusing), who seems to get me lynched whenever I'm scum.

Socio: No good reasons for his suspions. ISO #1-4 are all irrelevant, then he says Magua is scum. I think he's just sheeping SCREAMINGDEATH. He's making very little input, just calling people scumz. I would actually say his attitude thus far makes him the scummiest of the three. Significantly more reasoning is needed behind his actions.

So,
Regfan is town
Swift Justice is null (a lot of my problems with him aren't necessarily scummy, but I don't like his play)
Socio is scummy, he seems all over the place, is under the radar, doesn't support his reads with evidence.

[SpyreX]

....

You've got potential lad.

Ok Toasty doesn't eat nuclear hot death right away.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

This is the other head of the hydra checking in. I'm actually in the middle of reading the thread, but Faraday asked me to do some yelling at ToastyToast because he's getting ready to leave. Since I have no idea what I'm supposed to be yelling about, I'll just pick cherries here and have my fun while Faraday isn't here.

Seriously, stop changing your mind if you want

stop trying to discredit me by saying my posts aren't serious. what do you think of my points?

This to happen.

Both Faraday and I are quite prone to changing our minds, so this isn't going to happen anytime soon. Moreover, if you don't think Faraday's maneuver with Mina was a gambit, what do you think it was supposed to achieve? I know gut says one thing and one thing only -- and that's "twitch" -- but work with me a little.

(srsly, sign your sig its confusing)

I sign my posts. Faraday doesn't. Also, I type more long-winded posts than Faraday does.

Well, that was... um, quick? Back to reading, then. If there's something that requires immediate attention (i.e., within 15 minutes), link me or something because I'll be ignoring you lot until I get an idea of what is going on in this game.

[Katsuki]

Yeah I'm fine with Fate/Reck taking airbase. Protects them from both Euro and SK NKs.

ALSO HURR I WONDER WHERE MOI HAS BEEN THUS FAR THIS GAME (HINT: SCUMQT).
Honestly though MOI is guarenteed scum at this point.

Reg is probably town.

Need to look at Faraday/Mina when I have time.

Ludi is reminding me a lot of Dynasty Warriors...

Tired after flight, will look again tomorrow.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

Apparently, I didn't quite get the yelling down right, so Faraday asked me to add the following: Faraday didn't change his mind; the whole thing at AurorusVox was also a joke, as Faraday was mocking AurorusVox for not catching the sarcastic nature of Faraday's case on Mina.

[Katsuki]

Speaking of AV, he's the lynch for tomorrow as conf. scum.

[Swift Justice]

(Equinox)

Regfan, why do you have SocioPath down as scum when you're still trying to read him whereas everyone else you're reading is listed as null?

[HezLucky]

I'd like to take the opportunity to say right now that a hez lynch cannot possibly be something I will regret at this point. If you're town, hez, please don't take the Submarine or something, cause you're so anti-town that you're going to be lynched eventually.

DON'T take the submarine? How is this a good idea?


Anyhow I'm going to be very disappointed when town loses this game because they won't listen to me about SpyreX.

I can't be 100% sure already of what hez's alignment is, but I'm sure that with that playstyle, hez is not going to be catching scum during the day, but rather throwing everyone else off. I'm not even saying I'm going to lynch hez right away, although I might. I'm just saying that hez is not getting to any lylo, 3-way or otherwise, and I wouldn't mind being involved in that.

No, the scum will tremble in their boots when they see me picking them off one by one. No way I make it that far.

Ya'all need to turn in your roles so I can scumhunt based on something other than set-up plans.

REALLY!? YOU HAVE NO SCUM READS YET?
Hmm okay looks like somenoe called you out on it.

Is going to be dead before he can nuke this is also non-negotiable:
Hez

How self-preservationist of you, given that you are the only one who I am for-sure nuking at this point.




Yay I am being policy-lynched. Beware of meta, folks. I'm very vengeful. (This does not apply to the scum on my future wagon -- nor
does this apply if I flip scum -- but any town who policy lynch me beware I WILL get my revenge)

[AurorusVox]

Speaking of AV, he's the lynch for tomorrow as conf. scum.

how so?

Yay I am being policy-lynched. Beware of meta, folks. I'm very vengeful. (This does not apply to the scum on my future wagon -- nor
does this apply if I flip scum -- but any town who policy lynch me beware I WILL get my revenge)

Hate this. Happy to lynch you for being scummy now, kay?

---

Last game, there was a big debate about nuking without discussion beforehand. No one's really mentioned it at all yet. The general ideas last time were:
+ Let people nuke who they want, discussing compromises reads
- Nowaize, must have town consensus, all violators will be nuked
+ Lolrly, you think scum are likely to nuke without discussion more than town?
- Well nuking violators will stop town doing it and thus scum can't lolnuke

Personally, I say fire at will.

---

Fate with the Airbase, why does that sound familiar?
But yes, confirming I won't be putting it at #1. Unkillable Fate is a terrifying prospect but he screams town so.

[HezLucky]

Okay have fun losing bb

[HezLucky]

and you're first, scum or not.

seriously don't test me.

[AurorusVox]

Why do you need to threaten future vengeance? Why not just play pro-town?

[HezLucky]

because the idea of a policy lynch pisses me off beyond no end. this goes way beyond the game.

[AurorusVox]

But why would people PL you if you're being pro-town?
Instead of trying to REVENGE PL'ers, prove them wrong by being a good American citizen.
Surely?

[HezLucky]

Suddenly nuking SpyreX is anti-town? Even though he is the scummiest person in this game by far?

I'm more calm now than I was yesterday. And then I read this thread. If I am lynched this game and I do not feel it's because people think I am scum, I will definitely be getting my revenge.

This ultimately comes down to a f*#%#*% old boys club. If SpyreX or someone else more well known had said "I want to nuke so and so and I'm doing so for sure" nobody would bat an eye. I am very very very angry right now.

[AurorusVox]

I'm not saying wanting to nuke someone is anti-town.

People pushing a PL have to offer something more than just "because" to get you lynched. What I mean is, the whole town won't fall in just because a few people say so.

And I'm saying your attitude towards it - screaming bloody vengeance on anyone who dares vote for you - is scummy. I don't like at all.
Sounds as though you're scum, who's been caught for what you perceive as the "wrong" reasons, and now you're trying to RAGEPOST your way out of it.

[HezLucky]

Sounds as though you're scum, who's been caught for what you perceive as the "wrong" reasons, and now you're trying to RAGEPOST your way out of it.

You better hope I am scum. Becaues If I'm not, as I said - you're first.

(aka. I don't believe you)

[AurorusVox]

Oh, so someone who finds you legitimately scummy is now "first" before people who want to PL you? So here we see how it's not just PL'ers you hate, but ANYONE who questions your commitment to the great American cause. A further reiteration of why I find you scummy.

[HezLucky]

Keep adding fuel to the fire. This will not end well for you.

[AurorusVox]

Will it end better for me or for someone who advocates your policy lynch?

[HezLucky]

Good point.

I'm very angry right now. Logically, it would be the person advocating the policy lynch.

But who uses logic when they're angry?