Chuck Season 1 - GAME OVER

[Mastermind of Sin]

I choose one person and get a QT with them for the rest of the game.

[PeregrineV]

I choose one person and get a QT with them for the rest of the game.

And can you describe your though processes behind choosing the claimed cop, especially as he becomes a target for the rest of the game. Why not someone else?

Also, your impressions of Ant based on your QT interactions.

Is there a role-name for your role?

[PeregrineV]

Today was Reading Day at my Uni...so read I did.

danakillsu

: Leaning scum
#119 Twists MarchHare's words around
#217 Another twisting of words
#258 You know...what is your def on one-liners? I honestly get the feeling that you are trying to call people out on things to divert attention away from yourself.

Channeldelibird

: Leaning town
Pretty much all of his posts give a positive vib

PerigrineV

: Null
Tries to come off as edgy/witty
Although, he does unvote Thor at L-1 which imo is a townie thing,
but all other non-sheeping cases made by him are crap so far.

Mastermind of Sin

: Null
#93 Almost 100 pages in and has to get his "random" vote in.
In quotes because I believe he is keeping his cards close.
I guess we are not worth his time

Thor665

: Town
I am not afraid to say it. He has a point. He has been pulling his weight around here.
And I am getting the same vib from him as before.

mikeburnfire

: Leaning town (for the most part...I think :S)
I hopped on his wagon to get a respons, and I got one.
I liked it, and thought it was town.
But...that is it from him >_>
He is town or very slick scum.

Ragnarokio

: Gut says town
From her posts, she reminds me of someone else.
Her confusion with the Thor/Hair argument is null imo

Energetic Penguin

: Leaning town
Looks town enough to me so far.

ReaperCharlie

: Null...leaning town
A lot of his posts can be considered fluff, but they do get descussion going in the right direction.
Although, I will say this. Why I echoed Thor's question to him is because I thought I came across something that poked me. I wanted to bring it up sooner, but there was the impending daykill and I couldn't think of a good way to throw it out there without causing a scene. Obviously I was wrong about something. (who knew!?)

ooba

: Null
Not much to go on imo

animorpherv1

: Null
Again, not much to go on.
Although has posted elsewhere and not here.

MarchHare

: Town
Same feeling here as I get with Thor.
Short and sweat, but I feel the motivation behind his posts.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: danakillsu

whew, glad I got that out of the way.
*drinks juice*

VOTE: Pere

Addressing the point that main characters could be scum:
Yes, I know ooba and RC brought up that Harry Potter mafia were the main characters were mafia, but look at the flips of this game. All town VTs so far have been good minor characters in the show while the mafia flip was definitely one of the bad guys in the show.

These are the 4 people that I would be willing to lynch today. Obviously Pere is the best to go with (imo) because I feel like he has the strongest connection to dana and overall scummy actions from D1.

Channeldelibird-
PeregrineV-
mikeburnfire-
Ragnarokio

Channeldelibird- used to be "leaning town"
PeregrineV-used to be "null"
mikeburnfire-used to be "leaning town"
Ragnarokio-used to be "gut says town"

Ant's unwilling to lynch list:
Thor
MoS
EmpKing

Can you elaborate on how you came up with your lists?

Also, your impressions from MoS from your QT together, as well as why you think he selected you, please.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I choose one person and get a QT with them for the rest of the game.

And can you describe your though processes behind choosing the claimed cop, especially as he becomes a target for the rest of the game. Why not someone else?

Also, your impressions of Ant based on your QT interactions.

Is there a role-name for your role?

I have already answered your first question.

Ant seems pretty sincere in our QT interactions so far. He definitely put me through paces to make sure I was legit without automatically trusting me, so that served to reaffirm my trust that he is likely town.

My role was called a Neighborizor, but I'm pretty sure that was already revealed by Ant. Not sure if I said it in the QT before he said it here, though.

[Ant_to_the_max]

Thanks for grabbing a D1 read from me and compairing it to a D3 PoE list of mine. lol

Empking- cop result (if there is a vig, I think he would be the best target to check imo)
Mos- QT awesomeness. Actively going through each others reads (with him doing most of the work) I also like his claim which fits together a lot better.
Thor- Strait up gut at this point

[Empking]

Empking- cop result (if there is a vig, I think he would be the best target to check imo)

?

[Thor665]

Empking- cop result (if there is a vig, I think he would be the best target to check imo)

...wait, whut?

@Rag - oh dear gawd, do I actually need to spell this out for you? Okay - fine. There are two killing roles.
On Night 1 one of the killing roles (not assassinated, the other one, I'm not going back to check it's flavor) either no killed or, more likely, discovered there is a doc/protective role.
On Day 2 Ant claims cop.
Now - he's not likely to be the secondary kill role because, if he's the kill role that whiffed its shot he knows there's another killer out there - so if he's scum/SK he just made himself a BIG target for the other killing role.
He's not likely to be the assassinated role either, because at the time of claiming he had no way of knowing there was a protective role or another killing role, so he's really ballsy to be claiming "kill me please" role on Day 2 at that stage as it's asking to get him dead.

If you understand now - please contribute ANYTHING to the game. Or just keep pedantically poking around thinking something is strange with spotting how the cop is fairly likely to be a cop at this stage.

[Thor665]

Empking- cop result (if there is a vig, I think he would be the best target to check imo)

?

An Empking post I can agree with, has logic, and suggests he is reading the game! Huzzah, you can be perma-town!

[Thor665]

Oh, also, I'm leaning town on MoS now OooooooWHEEEEEooooo!

@MikeyB - why are you almost certainly town? I'd love to rule you off my 'want to kill with fire' list. Please help.

[PeregrineV]

Energetic Penguin

(7):

Magua

, Thor665, Ragnarokio,

ooba

, ChannelDelibird,

danakillsu

, Ant_to_the_max

danakillsu

(2): mikeburnfire, Mastermind of Sin,
Mastermind of Sin (2):

PeregrineV

,

ReaperCharlie

ReaperCharlie

(1): MarchHare

danakillsu

(6): Thor665, Ragnarokio, Ant_to_the_max, Mastermind of Sin, Empking, mikeburnfire

Magua

(1):

danakillsu

Mastermind of Sin (3):

Magua, PeregrineV, ooba

Not Voting: ChannelDelibird

Starting point for me from both end-of day lynches to explore possibilities.

[PeregrineV]

If Ant is town, then he is really cop, and EmpKing is really showing "no threat".
If MoS is town also, and Ant is town and correct, that leaves Thor, mbf, Rag and CDB, half of which are scum.

So, if Thor & mbf are town (conventional wisdom), that leaves Rag and CDB as scum.

While I'm not sure of this, I can do this for now while I think about it some more:

Vote: CDB

Seemed to follow the same pattern as Dana. High activity day1 to establish townieness, then day2 nothing (but only one prod all game).

[mikeburnfire]

This game is unfolding fast, and MoS keeps looking scummier in my eyes. I have something I want to share, but first I want Ant to directly say who he investigated N1 and N2, what the results were, and why he thinks he was left alive.

Also, I speculate that one of you is a restricted vigilante. If I am right, please reveal yourself. If I'm right, I can crack this game wide open.

ALSO, would it be beneficial to flavor claim? Dana flavor is blatantly scum (just checked a wiki), and if the mafia doesn't have safeclaims, then there's no downside to it.

[Empking]

In my experience scum have safeclaims.

[PeregrineV]

@mbf- Ant did already, but since I don't know if you want confirmation from him or or just the info, I'll let him respond.

Not sure on the flavor claim, for the reason EmpKing says, but if it matters in terms of winning, I'm for it.

[mikeburnfire]

I have seen a game where they did not (Mini 336). Once flavor was exposed, mafia were killed.

[Empking]

I have seen a game where they did not (Mini 336). Once flavor was exposed, mafia were killed.

Did you really point to a game 700 games ago? I'd be fine with a flavour claim, truth be told, but I'd be honestly shocked if they got tripped up based on it.

[mikeburnfire]

I have seen a game where they did not (Mini 336). Once flavor was exposed, mafia were killed.

Did you really point to a game 700 games ago?

Look, I don't play Mafia very often anymore, okay?

[PeregrineV]

@Rag- see you are here, what do you think of recent developments? Why did Ant the cop live?

[Empking]

I have seen a game where they did not (Mini 336). Once flavor was exposed, mafia were killed.

Did you really point to a game 700 games ago?

Look, I don't play Mafia very often anymore, okay?

To be honest I'm impressed that you were able to do so.

[mikeburnfire]

Oh, thank you.

Anyways, once I get confirmation from CD that he is or is not a vig, I can start cracking.

[PeregrineV]

You're looking for CDB confirmation? He checks in weekly.
Are you still needing Ant to respond, or do you just need his "targets"?

[Ragnarokio]

@Rag- see you are here, what do you think of recent developments? Why did Ant the cop live?

Either because he's scum, or because the scumteam didn't want to run into a doc, would be most likely.

if he's scum/SK he just made himself a BIG target for the other killing role. ... he's really ballsy to be claiming "kill me please" role on Day 2 at that stage as it's asking to get him dead.

It's not so ballsy when you're scum at L-1. A town killing role wouldn't have shot the cop. If ant has three members on his team, he pretty much knows that there isn't a serial killer. I still think a 3+ mafia setup is much more likely than a 2- one. If there

is

only two mafiates, with a serial killer, then the second mafiate is almost definitely going to be bulletproof, or else they're really unbalanced.

[Ragnarokio]

I'm against a flavour claim if it could out the doc.

[PeregrineV]

@Thor- Did you somewhere point out the simplest explanation? 3 mafia and a one-shot town vig that missed?

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm against a flavour claim if it could out the doc.