Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[Faraday]

anti-miller = scum who flip town on death? oh this gets better.

i agree with Seraphim at this stage. well apart from Plumscum deserving to win, i don't think Parama's the SK.

How many kills are we missing since Parama has claimed his? let me check.

[Faraday]

There isn't scum in us and faraday, Mod error has cleared that up.

Right now I'm thinking Plum+Parama but there is no need to rush into this.

does seraphim+ plum make sense at all as a scumteam? I mean unless seraphim pulled off a hascow I think he has to be town. he shot duplicity and singersigner.

wait is there any reason we're not claiming last nights abillities?

0 faith and i qt'd sottyrulez.

[Seraphim]

zero faith, I worshiped justice.

[sottyrulez]

faraday, I'm stuck on seraphim town mostly because of this post.

We had zero faith and worshiped Austerity

[Faraday]

ya. i mean i thought seraphim's been town throughout, but then I thought the same about parama.

doesn't parama/plum make far more sense? he tried to clear her when she was the lynch for the day, did he not? he'd have been caught by POE alone with only himself then. does that not make the most sense here?

[sottyrulez]

Exactly. Parama claimed a cop result on Plum when we were pushing her hard and starting to get a little momentum towards her lynch. Right now, those two together are the only thing that makes sense to me. Why would Parama, as an SK protect Plum "unknown" like that? When she has been so scummy as well. It would have been an easy mislynch for him right?

[Faraday]

just read back, faraday/sr/ns are all voting plum, then we massclaim and parama whops his fucking innocent out.

damn it i'm getting fucking itchy here, the more I read the less this makes sense.

[Parama]

as scum would I really try and clear my scumbuddy? I'm not a newbie y'know; what happens if plum dies before me? auto-lynch. I'm not one to gambit like that.

of course that doesn't work when I fake an inno on scum :/

I "cleared" Plum to buddy her, plain and simple. Apparently she was doing the same to me, which may be why I'm still alive. damn you plum.

[Faraday]

actually there was *some/fair bit* momentum towards NS, actually. so I take that back somewhat. the point is Plum was on the top of myself and Sr's scumlists, too people who had a fair amount of sway I think and I doubt parama fancied going alone at that stage. she'd probably have been lynched/vigged without the debacle over NS, which parama had no way of foreseeing as scum I'd assume, so it was his only option.

[Faraday]

Hold on thinking.

[Parama]

=/=

ffs.

[Parama]

stop ninja'ing me farady
you're not a member of the ninja clan
you can't do that

[sottyrulez]

Yeah, regardless of what he says, trying to save his buddy there would be a key move for end game. If he felt confident enough he could pull it off. I have little experience with Parama but he does strike me as the kinda guy who thinks he can bend people to his will should he need to.

[Parama]

yeah I'm totally that kind of guy

I'm also CRAZY PREPARED in that I don't leave anything up to chance. this is why I did not mass-randomize even when I had the chance.

[Parama]

and I love bussing. always. I'd have bussed Plum if I was scum with her. fo sho.

I redid that MoI fakeclaim PM like 5 times and still messed it up somehow though. man I just suck at everything.

[Faraday]

Okay. This game DID NOT start with 4 group scum and nothing else.

Sottyrulez is town, that's 100% confirmed.
I'm town. That's like...100% confirmed.

I'm 90% confident Seraphim is town.

I'm 100% confident Parama is anti town.
I'm pretty much 100% confident Plum is scum at this stage.

God I'm almost tempted to lynch her on the OFF CHANCE parama is telling the truth. Am I crazy? Someone tell me if I'm crazy.

PEDIT: so prepared you fucked up your investigation, right. parama strikes me as completely impulsive actually. good at pushing through mislynches as scum but probably a bit like fate in that the planning side of the game isn't his strong side. I mean we've already seen scum defend quadz in a completely terrible manner. why not go for the fucking hail mary.

[Parama]

I'm 100% confident Parama is anti town. .

CAPTIN OBVIOUS PICTURE HERE

[Faraday]

i mean plum is pretty obvscum i think if you look at the quadz interactionssssss. no rush i guess but last time i stalled out a lylo :/

[Faraday]

I'm 100% confident Parama is anti town. .

CAPTIN OBVIOUS PICTURE HERE

GET OUT

[sottyrulez]

Well Zach has left work and is on his way home now, so lets not start voting until I can talk with him some more and he can post some more.

I'm very tempted by a Plum lynch too. How likely is it that there are two tigers + the SK left? I'm not much for game balance and I know you design a lot of games.

[Faraday]

It's hard to judge without knowing the dead players role pm's. Let me try and cobble something together. give me 10 minutes. Vp's role alone is a fucking ANIMAL though

[sottyrulez]

Hmm true... There have been a ton of vigs.

Argh.

[Parama]

Numbers:
17:5:1 is quite balanced I'd say <.<

take a 15:5
add SK and 2 townies. with the possibility for crosskills added into the mix, you have a game that balances itself out automatically.

though mod-wifom is pretty much the lamest thing ever.

[Faraday]

we have my investigative abillity.
rayfrost who could vig and investigate
ooba who could give out watchers
you guys have a weak role
magua had some sort of abillity that he used on vp
I assume Vi = god role for herself (I'd make myself :MANLY: with dayvigs if i modded this, personally)
ddd's role was useless and anti town
agm could give us a double day (basically) or test fakeclaims.
da was a roleblocker or something off the top of my head
ns was idk?
Vi likes UK so she probably has a good role >_> RAGECOP? >_>
Gammagooey was a millers


It's not *impossible* to have 5 scum and 1 sk in a 23 player game. it's just over 25% of the game, and given potential town power it's probably not unreasonable, I guess.

[Faraday]

Numbers:
17:5:1 is quite balanced I'd say <.<

take a 15:5
add SK and 2 townies. with the possibility for crosskills added into the mix, you have a game that balances itself out automatically.

though mod-wifom is pretty much the lamest thing ever.

._. thanks for helping out parama...