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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:24 am

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[winger] wrote:

Scott Brosius wrote:Winger's iso is indeed scummy. Nothing novel and nothing of substance.

This statement is not logically consistent.

The lack of anything "novel" or "of substance" is not an operational definition of "scummy". Someone being scummy implies there are things in their iso that are proactively scummy, or that stand out as scummy. My iso having "nothing" in it does not qualify as scummy.


In your eyes maybe, but just going with the flow and not providing anything novel is still scummy to me.


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  • Ranmaru: 5 (RisingPhoenix, Skyquiem, Slaxx, Mana_Ku, inHimshallibe) L-3

    Reck: 2 (Kublai Khan, Scott Brosius) L-6
    Skyquiem: 2 (Ranmaru) L-6
    Kublai Kahn: 2 (mastin2,) L-7
    Scott Brosius: 1 (DeityKabuto) L-7
    RisingPhoenix: 2 (Reck, Hiraki) L-6


    Not Voting: 2 (Silver1337) L-7


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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:24 am

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Skyquiem wrote:
Ranmaru wrote: But I didn't notice he explained it. He could have reacted differently. That wasn't the only reason.

This just reads as you attempting to put all possible excuses in one answer. What does it matter if you didn't notice if he had explained it or not before, I provided you with information that had already existed, that's a fact therefore how is providing a fact a scum-tell.

Ranmaru wrote: Skyquiem - Scum. I don't like how he doesn't really explain how my play here is different than my other completed games on-site and off-site. I do the same thing in other games, so I am confused as to how Sky came to that conclusion. Don't understand his scum stance on Scott either.
Ranmaru wrote: It is irrelevant. My reason for voting is above.

1. My reasoning for suspecting Scott was explained in my ISO #5, #7, #8 and #15 so to state that you don't understand our stance on him is complete bullshit.
2. As explained in ISO #25 your play this game is entire fluff lacking anaylyitical play that you're capable of such as in #1, #18 and #37 from your Newbie game.


Not for providing a fact that has been stated, but by allowing another player the leisure of not answering the question. Defense.

Not bullshit at all.

Now, you labeled those posts wrong. That wasn't even the first nor second. I usually ask questions first, as you can see. RVS then ask questions, discuss, form reads blah blah blah.

Here's the iso to check that isn't the first post. http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:24 am

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Scott Brosius wrote:
[winger] wrote:

Scott Brosius wrote:Winger's iso is indeed scummy. Nothing novel and nothing of substance.

This statement is not logically consistent.

The lack of anything "novel" or "of substance" is not an operational definition of "scummy". Someone being scummy implies there are things in their iso that are proactively scummy, or that stand out as scummy. My iso having "nothing" in it does not qualify as scummy.


In your eyes maybe, but just going with the flow and not providing anything novel is still scummy to me.


Scott did you notice?
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:25 am

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Ranmaru, tell me why a Townie wants to know what their wagoners will think if they flip scum?
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:26 am

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Slaxx wrote:/facepalm

how about outting your thought process on that so I can defend myself

Hint: you're wrong, so it won't be too hard.


Course you'd only care about yourself there.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:26 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:Ranmaru, tell me why a Townie wants to know what their wagoners will think if they flip scum?


I'm quickly falling in love with you.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:27 am

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Ranmaru wrote:
Slaxx wrote:/facepalm

how about outting your thought process on that so I can defend myself

Hint: you're wrong, so it won't be too hard.


Course you'd only care about yourself there.


LOL The other 2 people he has there
are my scum read and null read who is very likely scum if you are
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:27 am

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Just do it.

@Slax: What does that make you think of how he is placing you on the list?
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:28 am

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Mastin, Reck, and Diety. These are the three people that need to be on this wagon.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:28 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:Ranmaru, tell me why a Townie wants to know what their wagoners will think if they flip scum?


Just answer the question.

@Slax: Thank you.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:29 am

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So in the interest of not being douchebags, could you all start putting the GIGANTIC FUCKING QUOTE WALLS in spoilers plz? Thanks. /bitch

On a serious note, this game is moving so quickly that my "put a vote count at the top of every page" thing might not happen as promptly as you might like, but it will happen on every page eventually. I'm married to this style of votecounts, so you'll have to live with that if it's a problem.

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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:29 am

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Slaxx wrote:Mastin, Reck, and Diety. These are the three people that need to be on this wagon.


And town flip. Don't be biased.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:30 am

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Ranmaru wrote:Not for providing a fact that has been stated, but by allowing another player the leisure of not answering the question. Defense.

Now you're just reaching. You ask X for Y information, Y information is already in the thread, Z provides this information, this isn't Z defending X merely a posting of shared information.

Ranmaru wrote: Not bullshit at all.

Are you honestly going to say you don't understand why we suspect Scott at ALL, really if you're town I'm blacklisting you becuase this flailing and bullshitting has gotten way out of hand.

Ranmaru wrote: Now, you labeled those posts wrong. That wasn't even the first nor second. I usually ask questions first, as you can see. RVS then ask questions, discuss, form reads blah blah blah.

You're right the numbers are wrong, but that doesn't change anything at all. Nice attempt to ignore all the content in that post and attempt to trash it merely because of a number mix up though.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:30 am

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Kublai Kahn: 2 (mastin2, Reck) L-6
Scott Brosius: 1 (DeityKabuto) L-7
RisingPhoenix: 2 (Reck, Hiraki) L-6
Since Reck is apparently a double-voter, you can make do with only 2/3! :P
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fuck. fixed in all VC. thanks for pointing it out.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:30 am

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Ranmaru wrote:Just do it.

@Slax: What does that make you think of how he is placing you on the list?


He's missing something with his pairings. It happens. I use a similar strategy he does. I look for people who can't be partners and do PoE. I take my town reads out of the mix right away. Thing is doing it on day 1 is silly because there is going to be bussing going on and no flips is dumb. He might have a town read wrong too, I cant remember who he was on. I'm not OMGUSing Mastin, if thats what you are trying to bait me to do.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:31 am

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I don't negotiate with terrorists imo.

IF you flip Town, I'm lynching RisingPhoenix. IF you flip scum, I'm lynching RisingPhoenix.

IF RISINGPHOENIX IS DEAD *COUGHCOUGHHINTHINTWINKWINKETCETC* it will depend on his alignment what I will do. If he's scum, I'm probably going to vote Kublai Khan. If he's Town, may as well take Reck's word on it.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:33 am

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Ranmaru wrote:
Slaxx wrote:Mastin, Reck, and Diety. These are the three people that need to be on this wagon.


And town flip. Don't be biased.


No, I did not say that. I was asking these people to join your wagon.

Scott, Hiraki, and Kahn are all very possible partners of yours. Mastin would be except I have a slight gut town read on him. Silver is also interchangeable with any of those.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:34 am

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lolol silver is perfect vigbait as well.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:34 am

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I'm like 95% sure this is a scum PR wagon. I don't think I have ever fought so hard for something so obvious.
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:34 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:lolol silver is perfect vigbait as well.

Silvers likely town and the vigs dead.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:36 am

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Silver is town. Newb-town, but town. Though it's not an issue.
With Empking dead, we likely have no backup vig.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:36 am

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It would halp if I knew that.

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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:37 am

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Ok, I'll take your word for it on Silver. I don't think I've read a single post of his.
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:37 am

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Tbh I can't wait to see his shot. No offense to empking but any competent mafia would have kept him alive.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:38 am

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Christ he was a Delayed Vig.


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