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[Internet Stranger]

Vote: ReaperCharlie

Since there are no other leads today and I dont think ToonFighter is scum (at the moment), lets get rid of the distraction. Its quite possible that this is a ploy for scum to hide behind.

[ReaperCharlie]

No ploy. Just busy. Me and Battousai are catching up now, in private. We will post our reads when it's done.

I'll be semi-V/LA over the weekend.

[Ranmaru]

@Yosariaon wrt my pbpa:

Ah, ok. Thank you for clarifying that, that makes sense.

Ah I see. You mean when someone argues to be right instead of argues to convince others that a person is scum.

Yeah I can see that too.

Ah ok, got you. Thank you.

[Ranmaru]

No ploy. Just busy. Me and Battousai are catching up now, in private. We will post our reads when it's done.

I'll be semi-V/LA over the weekend.

But you were free enough to hammer before.

[MrBuddyLee]

@MrBuddyLee: I agree with your stance on Poro, but how is it doing for you? Do you think you'll get him lynched ToDay? What are your thoughts on TF and RC?

Porochaz has demonstrated a high level of passion for this particular game. Anger, frustration, etc. He is heavily invested, yet he is not currently voting, and has not done anything resembling scumhunting for a few weeks now. And his posts are heavy with excuses and dictatorial behavior, as opposed to evaluative behavior. That is a perfect storm of scumminess.

Thoughts on ReaperCharlie? Ordinarily I'd be upset at/suspicious of CES for directing the vig to RC, but to be honest, a small part of me would take great satisfaction in that vig. I suppose I should ask whether this is an RC scum meta? I would look it up myself, except that there's no human being I could possibly have less interest in studying. Read: null

@ToonFighter

, how many scum teams are there?

[Kison]

@Kison: Why you lurkin'? What are your thoughts on TF and RC? Would you vote either? How is your vote doing for you?

I lurk because I can, and because I am a lazy bastard.

Definitely not willing to vote Reaper Charlie unless there is no other option. That wagon is crap. Yes, frustrating that he is not contributing, but this strategy, if you want to call it that, is not doing him any favors, and yet he continues with it. I am chalking it up to laziness and apathy towards this game, which renders his behavior fairly null. Looking at his posts in other games, I see similar behavior. The only point with any validity is what SensFan said earlier, which is that he idiotically hammered without reading the game. I am willing to wait to see if the hydra improves participation, otherwise I am considering him dead weight.

I'm willing to lynch Toon Fighter. Reading him in isolation, just about every vote of his is terrible. The Death Note one in particular, in which he points out an apparent contradiction(one that doesn't even exist), suggests an explanation for said contradition, then proceeds to vote the guy anyway, reads as fabrication. His FoS on Mozamis is fine. His

FoS on Vezok

looks like bullshit:

"You are losing the town points I gave you earlier, and I am starting to think we should policy lynch you as an anti-town player"

. Piggybacking on the lame "Furc is active lurking" wagon. Jumps on Kublai for "lack of D1" scumhunting despite the fact he replaced in late D1 and actually did provide a decent bit.

Both Kublai Khan and Primate deserve further scrutiny, though I'm acknowledging neither is likely to be pursued today. Primate at least comments on his own inactivity and admits he is having trouble getting into the game. Kublai has no such excuse. His last vote also is horrendous - placed without explanation on someone who he has

never once commented on

, while he never finished pursuing two of four of his previous suspects(and one of those two he dropped was me, based solely on the BS 'Recruiter' result form LlamaFluff). I also never responded to one of Kublai's questions yet he never followed up on it, which I find interesting. Kublai also replaced Bamboomancer, whose mere two posts in the game both read as scum.

Unvote

Vote: Toon Fighter

[Kison]

Kison is still basically actively lurking. He had one post with some content and a vote 3 days ago, but that's really all he's done for all of day 2.

Hi. Active lurker checking right in.

What do you think about Primate?

I want to hear more from him, he hasn't said much today, but his day 1 posting generally gives me a decent vibe. He's a hard guy to read, in general, and he has a bad habit of lurking for periods no matter what his alignment is, but I don't see anything especally scummy about his posts.

What specifically did you like about his day one posting? What do you think about his shady vote on Surye, or his vote from today on GummyBear, who he has never once commented on?

[Ranmaru]

@MrBuddyLee:

This is true. In fact he has stated who he wanted to go but didn't vote. I also didn't like how he turned on Vezo by getting "annoyed" and not by seeing scumminess in him.

I can see that CES has been a bit hypocritical because he himself hasn't really posted much content. I do not know, this is my first time playing with RC. Apparently IS knows that RC doesn't usually lurk.

[ReaperCharlie]

I have never played with IS before.

[Ranmaru]

@Kison: Why you lurkin'? What are your thoughts on TF and RC? Would you vote either? How is your vote doing for you?

I lurk because I can, and because I am a lazy bastard.

Definitely not willing to vote Reaper Charlie unless there is no other option. That wagon is crap. Yes, frustrating that he is not contributing, but this strategy, if you want to call it that, is not doing him any favors, and yet he continues with it. I am chalking it up to laziness and apathy towards this game, which renders his behavior fairly null. Looking at his posts in other games, I see similar behavior. The only point with any validity is what SensFan said earlier, which is that he idiotically hammered without reading the game. I am willing to wait to see if the hydra improves participation, otherwise I am considering him dead weight.

I'm willing to lynch Toon Fighter. Reading him in isolation, just about every vote of his is terrible. The Death Note one in particular, in which he points out an apparent contradiction(one that doesn't even exist), suggests an explanation for said contradition, then proceeds to vote the guy anyway, reads as fabrication. His FoS on Mozamis is fine. His

FoS on Vezok

looks like bullshit:

"You are losing the town points I gave you earlier, and I am starting to think we should policy lynch you as an anti-town player"

. Piggybacking on the lame "Furc is active lurking" wagon. Jumps on Kublai for "lack of D1" scumhunting despite the fact he replaced in late D1 and actually did provide a decent bit.

Both Kublai Khan and Primate deserve further scrutiny, though I'm acknowledging neither is likely to be pursued today. Primate at least comments on his own inactivity and admits he is having trouble getting into the game. Kublai has no such excuse. His last vote also is horrendous - placed without explanation on someone who he has

never once commented on

, while he never finished pursuing two of four of his previous suspects(and one of those two he dropped was me, based solely on the BS 'Recruiter' result form LlamaFluff). I also never responded to one of Kublai's questions yet he never followed up on it, which I find interesting. Kublai also replaced Bamboomancer, whose mere two posts in the game both read as scum.

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Vote: Toon Fighter

Good point with RC. I like the wagon though, because it'd help garner info and reactions. (If he won't help us, we'll help ourselves *by voting him) Yeah that hammer was dumb, I don't even think he explained WHY he hammered.

Yes I agree, all that is bad. Especially the - townie points thing, and the kublai push.

Yes I'll look into both a bit deeper. They both fell under the radar for me.

@RC: Yo, RC, can you answer my #1148? Also, why did you hammer Surye D1? Did you have a scum read on him?

[Ranmaru]

Oh wait! I forgot Nobody Special replaced Agar.

@NS: You catching up?

[Ranmaru]

Saw ToonFighter post around.

[Internet Stranger]

If we lynch Charlie and he flips scum, ABR should be next.

If we lynch ToonFighter..., I wouldnt know what connections he has with anyone. And my ISO on him didnt particularly read as scum to me.

[Furcolow]

I don't feel as if mafia would lower their suspicion of me from 3rd last to last considering my voting them
HezzLucky is probably town after all, even if I was originally wary of him due to the way he is calculating the game.

In terms of RC and TF, I will have to say I would rather lynch RC. He is very good at playing scum, and horrible at town. I am town this game, so I want to lynch him, because he will either trick us which results in my losing, or suck which results in my losing

vote: RC

[Kison]

^ Horrible vote

[Furcolow]

your vote on TF and buddying of RC is even worse

[Furcolow]

P.S. RC is my friend, he is just fucking terrible as town and good at mafia

[Ranmaru]

your vote on TF and buddying of RC is even worse

Not at all, his vote on him was pretty good.

[MrBuddyLee]

He looks pretty terrible right now.. does he look brilliant to you in this game for some reason?

[Kison]

Do you believe that Reaper Charlie is playing a particularly stellar game right now?

[Yosarian2]

RC is looking pretty terrible right now.

P.S. RC is my friend, he is just fucking terrible as town and good at mafia

In my experence with him, the opposite is true. He's much stronger as town then as scum.

I also hate that he's bascially done nothing this game but vote a townie for no reason

I want to hear what Battousai has to say about the game first, but if I don't hear something useful from the slot soon, I will be voting them.

[Furcolow]

I feel like his record will back my opinion moreso than yours, Yosarian.
Even if you are right, though, it just lends more justification for my vote as he is living up to that
The thing is even if he is town, I don't trust him, so we differ there which makes it almost a PL to me

[DeathNote]

I don't feel as if mafia would lower their suspicion of me from 3rd last to last considering my voting them
HezzLucky is probably town after all, even if I was originally wary of him due to the way he is calculating the game.

In terms of RC and TF, I will have to say I would rather lynch RC. He is very good at playing scum, and horrible at town. I am town this game, so I want to lynch him, because he will either trick us which results in my losing, or suck which results in my losing

vote: RC

Stupid vote.

Vote: ReaperCharlie

Since there are no other leads today and I dont think ToonFighter is scum (at the moment), lets get rid of the distraction. Its quite possible that this is a ploy for scum to hide behind.

Stupid vote.

[Internet Stranger]

I don't feel as if mafia would lower their suspicion of me from 3rd last to last considering my voting them
HezzLucky is probably town after all, even if I was originally wary of him due to the way he is calculating the game.

In terms of RC and TF, I will have to say I would rather lynch RC. He is very good at playing scum, and horrible at town. I am town this game, so I want to lynch him, because he will either trick us which results in my losing, or suck which results in my losing

vote: RC

Stupid vote.

Vote: ReaperCharlie

Since there are no other leads today and I dont think ToonFighter is scum (at the moment), lets get rid of the distraction. Its quite possible that this is a ploy for scum to hide behind.

Stupid vote.

And your contributions have been so stellar, right DeathNote? In fact, looking through your ISO, it appears that youre the King of the One Liner. You really havent done much to contribute on this great scumhunt, have you?

Thanks for pinging yourself in my radar, I hadnt noticed you amidst all of your lurking and useless postings.

IGMEOY: DeathNote

[Ranmaru]

@Deathnote:

Thanks for the useless analysis. Does that make them scum? What are you going to do about their votes?