Large Normal 132: Desert Mafia (Over!)

[Ranmaru]

WILL YOU NOT ANSWER HIS DAMN QUESTION. Stop that, seriously.

Oh ok, I forgot. Even so, I would think Scott's push was legit and Mana would be trying to prey off the wagon. Now that I look at it her post about it is pretty annoying because she doesn't really feel like addressing why she is voting you.

@Mana_Ku


And you feel the need to BW without a reason... why exactly?

It looks to me like your sheeping to Scott on this, but I may be missing something sublime here. I just don't know yet.

Just because I'm not stating something, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I have my reason, based on something different than Scott is voting you for.

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Vote Count

• Ranmaru: 3 (RisingPhoenix, Skyquiem, Slaxx) L-5
  
  [winger]: 2 (Kublai Khan, gorilla) L-6
  Skyquiem: 2 (Mana_Ku, Ranmaru) L-6
  Kublai Kahn: 2 (mastin2, [winger]) L-6
  Silver1337: 1 (Hiraki) L-7
  
  
  Not Voting: 4 (inHimshallibe, Silver1337, Scott Brosious, DeityKabuto)

With 14 players, it takes

8

to lynch.

Deadline countdown timer:

(expired on 2011-06-17 18:39:00)

[Ranmaru]

Last post was in response to Sky.

[Ranmaru]

Seriously, that really annoys the fuck out of me. You did that with my Empking question too. DON'T FUCKING ANSWER SOMEONE ELSES QUESTION.

[Skyquiem]

Your question was pointless as he had already explained why he believed it was 4:

Also, I'm not so sure about the size of the scumteam. Four seems like too much for a game of this size, three seems like too few, yet we obviously don't have a SK. Anyone got ideas?

[Ranmaru]

Oh, I missed that. Still, it was his job to explain that, not yours. I just find it annoying whenever that I seem to ask a question you seem to semi-answer it. The Empking thing you might not have known but it could have been useful to draw reactions and such.

[mastin2]

Was going to comment on why I said there were four scum (specifically, point out how I rambled about it before), but was beaten to it.

Slaxx's statement in 349 is more or less true.

In other words, not much new.

[DeityKabuto]

Was going to comment on why I said there were four scum (specifically, point out how I rambled about it before), but was beaten to it.

Slaxx's statement in 349 is more or less true.

In other words, not much new.

Yea, in games like this, 4 scum is a good estimate.

[Mana_Ku]

@Ranmaru
Have you not been reading? I already told you, my reason for not explaining my vote against Sky and for not stating who that other top suspect of mine is, was going to be mentioned yesterday. But I was sick yesterday, so it has to wait till I get back home today ._.
Hint: For not doing so, I've shown that Scott's vote against Sky is bullshit. Want to accuse me again of not having scumhunted?

I'll change my vote when I post my reads I have so far (which also includes why I voted Sky).

[[winger]]

Read [winger]. Tell me why you think he's unworthy of a vote.

I'd like you to show me why I'm vote-worthy.

[Kublai Khan]

Read [winger]. Tell me why you think he's unworthy of a vote.

I'd like you to show me why I'm vote-worthy.

Actually, KK, that's pretty accurate. I'm just waiting for someone to do something scummy, then pounce on them.

Funny story. You know what's a great strategy for scum? To say as little as possible until someone else messes up, then they can jump on the bandwagon.

15 pages in and... you've "pounced" on me (OMGUS) with the reason of "following the obv-town".

So, to recap, you're OMGUSing, active lurking, & sheeping.

What's the town motivation for your actions? And who is the obv-town? mastin2?? Explain that read.

[Kublai Khan]

@mod: I seem to have access to my edit button in this thread. You might want to inquire about having that disabled.

[Hiraki]

Skquiem: I didn't accuse you of doing it.

I just thought that'd be amazing. Trolltastic.

I need a re-read.

[Ranmaru]

@Ranmaru
Have you not been reading? I already told you, my reason for not explaining my vote against Sky and for not stating who that other top suspect of mine is, was going to be mentioned yesterday. But I was sick yesterday, so it has to wait till I get back home today ._.
Hint: For not doing so, I've shown that Scott's vote against Sky is bullshit. Want to accuse me again of not having scumhunted?

I'll change my vote when I post my reads I have so far (which also includes why I voted Sky).

Your 'reason' is just as shitty. Or rather Scott actually had a reason to scumhunt on Sky and you just hid yours. I have the right to say that you aren't scumhunting. Notice how you only come to respond to me. Looking forward to the reads.

[Scott Brosius]

Winger's iso is indeed scummy. Nothing novel and nothing of substance.

I still think Ranmaru is leaning town.

Vote: winger

[Slaxx]

Winger's iso is indeed scummy. Nothing novel and nothing of substance.

I still think Ranmaru is leaning town.

Vote: winger

why

[Kublai Khan]

Okay. So it's not final. It's not cemented as strongly as I would like. It makes more assumptions than I am comfortable with.

Khan, Hiraki, Ranmaru, and Slaxx seems like the only scumteam which makes sense in my head, with my notes compiled all together.

I'm feeling a little soft in the head right now, so...

How much of your scumreads on the other 3 depend on the (faulty) premise of "Khan is scum"? (i.e. in the event that you do flip town, how much stock should I actually put into your reads?)

@Slaxx - You didn't answer my other 2 questions.

[Slaxx]

Which 2? I don't see any.

[Kublai Khan]

And how am I misguided?
Do you have a history with gorilla?

[Slaxx]

I don't remember calling you misguided, but you are because your vote isn't on Ran. I don't know how people can ignore a case like that.

Yes. I do. But not too extensive. I have seen him in 2 town games and 2 scum games, 1 being offsite.

[mastin2]

Not here for long, but...

Okay. So it's not final. It's not cemented as strongly as I would like. It makes more assumptions than I am comfortable with.

Khan, Hiraki, Ranmaru, and Slaxx seems like the only scumteam which makes sense in my head, with my notes compiled all together.

I'm feeling a little soft in the head right now, so...

How much of your scumreads on the other 3 depend on the (faulty) premise of "Khan is scum"? (i.e. in the event that you do flip town, how much stock should I actually put into your reads?)

Absolutely zero. Works both ways, too.
There's absolutely nothing in my reads which I'm using to make you scum, there's absolutely nothing in my reads which relies on you being scum.

You're just...a separate island as far as I'm concerned, if that makes any sense. You're scum, but the reasons why are isolated. (Not in a way that says, "he can't be scum with these guys". In a way, that says, "He's the only one who's scum for individual reasons." As in, there's not much from any of my scumteam which I see as being individually scummy, but rather, the links and interaction between them is rather condemning.
That said, Khan does have a lot of connections with the other three, connections I'll be pointing out. I didn't use them to form the conclusion for my scumteam, but I very easily could have.

If that makes sense.)

Essentially.

Khan is scum, for many reasons quite obvious in his posts. He's also scum for his connections to other players, but said connections are not the main basis for him being scum.

The other three names have things in their individual posts which might be questionable (but I need to look into it some more to confirm or deny), but their interactions and connections are strongly condemning. And while I did not use Khan's interaction with them to form this conclusion (I felt that'd taint the results), I very easily could have, since after I formed the conclusion, I noticed a lot of little things, little things which created the link.

If that makes sense.

(It's hard to explain. All my reads, make perfect sense to ME! )

[Ranmaru]

Still waiting on that case, Mastin.

[Mana_Ku]

@Ranmaru
Have you not been reading? I already told you, my reason for not explaining my vote against Sky and for not stating who that other top suspect of mine is, was going to be mentioned yesterday. But I was sick yesterday, so it has to wait till I get back home today ._.
Hint: For not doing so, I've shown that Scott's vote against Sky is bullshit. Want to accuse me again of not having scumhunted?

I'll change my vote when I post my reads I have so far (which also includes why I voted Sky).

Your 'reason' is just as shitty. Or rather Scott actually had a reason to scumhunt on Sky and you just hid yours. I have the right to say that you aren't scumhunting. Notice how you only come to respond to me. Looking forward to the reads.

What part of 'it has to wait till I get home' don't you understand? I took a quick look and saw that you attacked me, so I quickly responded to that and the rest will come soonish.
And I haven't scumhunted? I'm gonna explain the Scott part and I have questioned you and Silver. So no, you don't have that right.

[mastin2]

I've been busy. :/

Should be getting better soon enough. Hopefully.

The Khan case got a little side-tracted by me wanting to nail the whole scumteam rather than just a single player.

[Ranmaru]

@Mana Ku:

And again, I look forward to your reads. I do not know any of your stances. You say that we have to wait until you get home,

then where are you posting from now

????

You aren't scumhunting, you are stalling. I will then concede when you post your reads, but not now.

@Mastin: How succesful have you been in calling scum teams on D1, Mastin? I fear that your call may not be accurate. I even still am iffy about your Khan read. You stallin?

[Mana_Ku]

haven't played with Emp, or if I did I forgot since i've been on hiatus-ish
ambivalent on [winger]. I have gut town on him, but at the same time my last gut on him was wrong so... I'm keeping my vote on Ranmaru though, my read is just as strong as it was when I first made the vote

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Ranmaru has done basically F-all besides ask questions?

That's a lie. I have done more than that. I can argue that you yourself haven't done much. You only responded to my question about Empking so far and gave a read about Winger. (Quote above ^ ) Your best post was when I actually asked about your opinion, which I did like.

Of course, I can give you that there isn't many leads to go off of so I don't blame you.

Ranmaru, how obvious can you get? My last post before I got sick was made about an half hour later than this post. And now, you're accusing me of not scumhunting, while you couldn't blame a player before?
You today, Scott tomorrow.

Unvote; Vote Ranmaru