Large Normal 132: Desert Mafia (Over!)

[Ranmaru]

Maybe because there are straggles, and 4 people not voting.

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Vote Count

• Ranmaru: 3 (RisingPhoenix, DeityKabuto, Skyquiem) L-5
  
  [winger]: 2 (Kublai Khan, gorilla) L-6
  gorilla: 1 (Ranmaru) L-7
  Kublai Kahn: 1 (mastin2) L-7
  Silver1337: 1 (Hiraki) L-7
  Skyquiem: 1 (Mana_Ku) L-7
  
  
  Not Voting: 5 (inHimshallibe, [winger], Silver1337, Slaxx, Scott Brosious)

With 14 players, it takes

8

to lynch.

Deadline countdown timer:

(expired on 2011-06-17 18:39:00)

[inHimshallibe]

;lakdhfavietb;aljdk

I will post up in this joint tonight.

[RedCoyote]

Slaxx replaces Reya Cookiebringer. Thanks, Slaxx!

[Slaxx]

No problem Red. Actually been waiting for a normal to replace into. Have to get my replacement Karma back up.

Alright, reading the thread now.

[mastin2]

Stalker.

[Slaxx]

Reads:

Town: (Gorilla, Deity)
Null: (Winger, Hiraki, inHimShallIBe)
Leaning Town: (Rising Phoenix, Mastin2, Kubli Kahn, Skyquiem)
Leaning Scum: (Silver1337)
Scum: (Scott Brosius, Ranmaru)

Gorilla: Very first post= genuine and Town.
Diety: Early JK claim is early and dumb, but also town.

Null Reads:

If I had to take a stance on them, winger=scum, there was a post he seemed a bit to worried about suspicion on him. Hiraki= town, gut. No clue on InHim.

Rising Phoenix: Conditional on ranmaru flip, I like how he noticed the active lurking and dead end questions.
Mastin2: Hard read is hard, I have no meta on Mastin. Nothing seems out of place now though.
Kubli Kahn: A bit of gut, a bit of how he goes about pushing on people. Seems like misguided town.
Skyqueim: Our scum reads match, and thats good enough for me now (especially since he posted them first).

Scum:
Silver hiding behind a scum meta that apparently doesnt even exist is lol.
Scott ad Ranmaru: Scott for pushing hydra bullshit, Ran for dead end questions.


Other Notes:
Mastin isn't scum with more than one of (Hiraki, Sky, Scott) because of this:

I'll respond to what I need to later. Still incoherent right now.

But I'm telling you here and now {Hiraki, Sky, Scott} contains 1-2 scum in it. There's no way this is town-on-town-with-town. If that makes sense.

Reason: Doubt Mastin would group 2 scumbuddies into something like that as scum. Improbable.

A Scott scum flip or a Silver scum flip looks good because of this:

@Scott-1

I've seen this before, a couple of times; where someone asks the hydra to 'headclaim' on grounds that hiding said information is Anti-Town.

I don't think I need to state that each of those times, said person wanting said information was scum.

So Scott, are you Scum?

Can you reference these games?

Silver's hesitation to vote is weird and scummy.

He keeps his vote on something that is antitown, but won't move it to someone being scummy? Not buyin it. Typical vote a townie FoS a buddy play.

I will take a deeper look in this thread tomorrow and start doing more PoE eliminations (its something I recently adapted and probably like it more than actually just calling out the four scummiest people).

[Slaxx]

Also,

Vote Ranmaru

Beautiful bandwagon. Loving the people on it.

[mastin2]

Ranmaru: 4 (RisingPhoenix, DeityKabuto, Skyquiem,

Slaxx

) L-4

I wish I could say the same. Deity's good, and I personally believe Phoenix is as well. But Slaxx, you weren't exactly a positive read of mine, nor is Sky.

I think that one of you is scum. Getting half-way to a lynch generally means you've got one scum on there.

It's possible the Ranmaru wagon has no scum on it, but pretty much under only one condition: if Ranmaru is scum.

And even if Ranmaru is scum, that doesn't guarantee that all the people on the wagon are town, either.

...If that makes sense. (Sorry. Caffiene pills haven't fully kicked in, yet, and I'm distracted.)

Essentially, I think one of {Ranmaru, Sky, Slaxx} is scum, but probably not the other two, though if it's Ranmaru, it's POSSIBLE one of the other two is. (I am stating right here and now, though, that Sky and Slaxx aren't both scum. That's pretty obvious, right now.)

I'll be pondering this later when I have more time to spare. (As it is, I shouldn't be posting in here. )

[Slaxx]

Its alright Mastin, because ran is scum.

[Slaxx]

However, I like where you are coming from, and I really like how you use a system similar to mine.

A- from Slaxx. GG. Return A- to any local ice cream store, get 1 free scoop.

[DeityKabuto]

Lols I'd say for Ranmaru, if I ever got a scum role again, I actually thought that asking questions would get me off the hook, and I'm serious. It always crosses my mind.

[Skyquiem]

Welcome Slaxx, really glad you replaced in, that slot needed activity badly.

I agree with head ones vote. It was something I brought up in our QT awhile ago and was actually the reason I was asking Ranamaru for his previous scum games. His play this game seems excessively fluffy in comparison to his completed town games on this site. Even when I pointed out the questions were leading nowhere and unproductive he continued doing so which reeks of scum not knowing how to make active posts without redirecting attention elsewhere.

Silver, you stated Deity is one of your strongest FoS's in the game, does that you don't believe his claim? JK is a highly common role thus why would scum claim a role that could lead to a potential counter-claim and them being lynched this early into the game?

Mastin, you stated earlier that you had a town-read on Ranamaru, what was it based upon and how has it changed?

- Regfan.

[Ranmaru]

Welcome Slaxx, really glad you replaced in, that slot needed activity badly.

I agree with head ones vote. It was something I brought up in our QT awhile ago and was actually the reason I was asking Ranamaru for his previous scum games. His play this game seems excessively fluffy in comparison to his completed town games on this site. Even when I pointed out the questions were leading nowhere and unproductive he continued doing so

which reeks of scum

not knowing how to make active posts without redirecting attention elsewhere.

Silver, you stated Deity is one of your strongest FoS's in the game, does that you don't believe his claim? JK is a highly common role thus why would scum claim a role that could lead to a potential counter-claim and them being lynched this early into the game?

Mastin, you stated earlier that you had a town-read on Ranamaru, what was it based upon and how has it changed?

- Regfan.

Ok, how does that make me scum, though? I'd figure this would be a null tell, not scum. I ask about reads, and I ask why they have reads.

Don't like Slaxx's reason either. Just for questions? Really.

[mastin2]

Mastin, you stated earlier that you had a town-read on Ranamaru, what was it based upon and how has it changed?

Ditto. I need to look into Ranmaru more.

By default, I'll stick to my early read, that being, Ranmaru town. But I'll look into him some more.

[mastin2]

Also.

I dislike the speed of the Ranmaru Wagon. Three Votes In a little over One Page? Seems too fast to be on scum.

-One of {Ranmaru, Sky, Slaxx} (potentially two if one is Ranmaru) is scum. (See above.) I eliminated Phoenix from the list.
-One of {Sky, Scott, Hiraki} (potentially two) is scum.

Khan's scum.
One of Ranmaru/Scott is scum, but the other's town.
One of Hiraki/Mana/Phoenix is scum.
One of inHim/Reya-

Slaxx

is scum.

If Ranmaru is scum, Phoenix isn't.

I think I might be on to something, here. I'll analyze it in my QT later. I really think I might be locking onto the truth, like I'm

this

close to nailing the scumteam, because I have all the information I need to find 'em already. But that it's not quite there.

To put it metaphorically, I've got all the pieces of the puzzle and some are beginning to fall into place, but the rest won't, because they need some sort of shove, something which I currently lack in-thread.

[mastin2]

It's there.

I can

feel

it. The information to nail the entire scumteam is right THERE! In front of my eyes, with those pieces of info I just posted.

But frustratingly, I can't figure out HOW. >_<

[DeityKabuto]

It's there.

I can

feel

it. The information to nail the entire scumteam is right THERE! In front of my eyes, with those pieces of info I just posted.

But frustratingly, I can't figure out HOW. >_<

It takes time.

[mastin2]

Spoiler: List, Updated

Deity
Gorilla
Mana
Silver

[winger]

RisingPhoenix
Scott
Ranmaru

inHim
Hiraki
Reya/Slaxx
Sky
Khan

Pretty similar. Winger's been bumped UP to "neutral, but not in a suspicious pairing". Phoenix, Scott, and Ranmaru are all bumped down to, "neutral: town-read before, but in a suspicious pairing". If that makes sense. I think that the scumteam's within the 8-9 names posted. And some of them seem quite mutually exclusive to the others. (As in, if some flip scum, the others get bumped off due to them being pretty much impossible scum partners.)

I can figure this out.

[Skyquiem]

Also.

I dislike the speed of the Ranmaru Wagon. Three Votes In a little over One Page? Seems too fast to be on scum.

Dude...

stop freaking out over nothing

.

It's D-1, 11 pages in, and a 8 lynch threshold.

3 votes is not something to sneeze at.

Your concern would be legitimate if ranmaru got upped to L2 or L1 in under a page, but he hasn't.

He only got 2 votes in that amount of time.

Your freaking out for nothing...

Why so scared??

-Mystery Head

[Ranmaru]

Reads:

Town:

Khan, Phoenix

Slight town:

Hiraki

Newb town:

Silver, Scott Brosius, Deity Kabutops

Null:

InHim (warranted), Mastin, Gorilla

Newb null leaning scum:

[winger]

Scum:

Sky, Mana Ku, Slaxx

.


1. inHimshallibe - Need more content. Can't wait! : D
2. [winger] - Timid, doesn't know when to lay down a vote. Null leaning scum, but willing to reconsider this read. Need more content as well.
3. DeityKabuto - Sadly, he claimed pre-maturely. Yet he commits weird acts, they seem to line up with his D1 claim. Good thing he is voting and not coasting/being lazy. : P
4. Kublai Khan - I don't see scumminess and Mastin must be out of his mind. : P I like Khan's posts and I see content, nothing scummy. Seems pro-town to me.

6. mastin2 - Null. I find it odd he says he is here to stop myslynches, but this can be null because then as scum he could be stopping scum lynches. Also, he seems to put people that disagree with him as scum, or who ever his scum reads attack as town.
7. Silver1337 - Newb town. His early vote screams of "I DON'T WANT TO DIE" and also "I'm INNOCENT I TELL YA!"
8. Skyquiem - Scum. I don't like how he doesn't really explain how my play here is different than my other completed games on-site and off-site. I do the same thing in other games, so I am confused as to how Sky came to that conclusion. Don't understand his scum stance on Scott either.
9. RisingPhoenix - Town, I like his contributions (earlier on) and his legit push towards me.
10. gorilla - Useless. Just wagon fodder, and he's null to me.
11. Slaxx Reya Cookiebringer - I don't like his reasoning for his vote on me. Just for questions? Explain how that makes me scum. Don't like how he is already having a town read on mastin solely because of meta.
12. Hiraki - I found him a bit anti-town, but I did like his reasoning for pressuring Scott. Still, it's ironic that I say Hiraki is a bit anti-town and yet have him as slight town.
13. Scott Brosius - Doesn't seem scummy at ALL. He seems to be an easy lynch, and was a bit anti-town. Haven't seen him place a vote after Sky revealed his head 2.
14. Mana_Ku - Hasn't really placed a vote, and hasn't really addressed that much people. I don't care how long Mana was here, I want to see some more scum hunting. Scum
15. Ranmaru - He's a cool guy.

[Ranmaru]

Unvote: Vote: Sky

[DeityKabuto]

Reads:

Town:

Khan, Phoenix

Slight town:

Hiraki

Newb town:

Silver, Scott Brosius, Deity Kabutops

Null:

InHim (warranted), Mastin, Gorilla

Newb null leaning scum:

[winger]

Scum:

Sky, Mana Ku, Slaxx

.


1. inHimshallibe - Need more content. Can't wait! : D
2. [winger] - Timid, doesn't know when to lay down a vote. Null leaning scum, but willing to reconsider this read. Need more content as well.
3. DeityKabuto - Sadly, he claimed pre-maturely. Yet he commits weird acts, they seem to line up with his D1 claim. Good thing he is voting and not coasting/being lazy. : P
4. Kublai Khan - I don't see scumminess and Mastin must be out of his mind. : P I like Khan's posts and I see content, nothing scummy. Seems pro-town to me.

6. mastin2 - Null. I find it odd he says he is here to stop myslynches, but this can be null because then as scum he could be stopping scum lynches. Also, he seems to put people that disagree with him as scum, or who ever his scum reads attack as town.
7. Silver1337 - Newb town. His early vote screams of "I DON'T WANT TO DIE" and also "I'm INNOCENT I TELL YA!"
8. Skyquiem - Scum. I don't like how he doesn't really explain how my play here is different than my other completed games on-site and off-site. I do the same thing in other games, so I am confused as to how Sky came to that conclusion. Don't understand his scum stance on Scott either.
9. RisingPhoenix - Town, I like his contributions (earlier on) and his legit push towards me.
10. gorilla - Useless. Just wagon fodder, and he's null to me.
11. Slaxx Reya Cookiebringer - I don't like his reasoning for his vote on me. Just for questions? Explain how that makes me scum. Don't like how he is already having a town read on mastin solely because of meta.
12. Hiraki - I found him a bit anti-town, but I did like his reasoning for pressuring Scott. Still, it's ironic that I say Hiraki is a bit anti-town and yet have him as slight town.
13. Scott Brosius - Doesn't seem scummy at ALL. He seems to be an easy lynch, and was a bit anti-town. Haven't seen him place a vote after Sky revealed his head 2.
14. Mana_Ku - Hasn't really placed a vote, and hasn't really addressed that much people. I don't care how long Mana was here, I want to see some more scum hunting. Scum
15. Ranmaru - He's a cool guy.

Unvote

I agree with some of these.

Also, if mastin2 flips scum then you are leading us in the right direction, and mastin is just fluffscumposting.

[Ranmaru]

Well Mastin's putting in some effort though, I don't think he's just fluffing on purpose. I think he is putting energy in this, I just have him as null. Rather have scummy people lynched, and then have a read on Mastin with POE later on.

Which reads do you agree with?

[mastin2]

Hold on a sec. I just did a calculation. It's suggesting that Khan and Slaxx are scum. The remaining two are either Phoenix and Scott, or Hiraki and Ranmaru.

I need to check the thread over again with these calculations in mind.

I'm on to something.

[Ranmaru]

How did you come to this conclusion?