Dynasty Warriors Mafia (Shu Victorious)

[mykonian]

Duel in progress

Thats B.S. myko and I almost want to vote you to lose on principle.

Do it. People agreed on inhim. I think I'm the best for a duelist. Lots of people gave their opinions of who they wanted to duel: the information you wanted is there.

Nothing is lost, and the best decision has been made. I'm not even cutting off the day, so feel free to give some good reasons why I rushed.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki: I don't doubt your knowledge. I'm just saying mod > knowledge. Mods aren't infallible and they can also deliberately make choices that would trip up flavorlovers.

Spyspy is infallible.

This has nothing to do with the game anyhow. My problem with you was how you kept trying to push the RC=3P schtick, even though it's now been proven wrong via AGM.

Lu Bu for SK.

Proven how?

I hate arguing with a sack of potatoes.

Let me know when you're ready to use a brain.

[Katsuki]

Myko, I'm not happy with your lack of presence thus far in this game, just saying.

But I'm not ready for you to die yet either.

DECISIONS DECISIONS

[Juls]

Don't worry myko. I want both of you to die. I encourage others to kill you both.

[Amrun]

Katsuki: I don't doubt your knowledge. I'm just saying mod > knowledge. Mods aren't infallible and they can also deliberately make choices that would trip up flavorlovers.

Spyspy is infallible.

This has nothing to do with the game anyhow. My problem with you was how you kept trying to push the RC=3P schtick, even though it's now been proven wrong via AGM.

Lu Bu for SK.

Proven how?

I hate arguing with a sack of potatoes.

Let me know when you're ready to use a brain.

That's rude and uncalled for.

I want to know how AGM's ability says that RC is scum as opposed to third party. It doesn't say either way, as far as I can tell.

[Maxous]

Pedit: why a townread on inhim, Maxous?

No compelling reason.
I agree with a lot of Inhim's reads and I find his posts and suspicions to be genuine.

[Amrun]

So you want inhim to win this duel?

[Katsuki]

Katsuki: I don't doubt your knowledge. I'm just saying mod > knowledge. Mods aren't infallible and they can also deliberately make choices that would trip up flavorlovers.

Spyspy is infallible.

This has nothing to do with the game anyhow. My problem with you was how you kept trying to push the RC=3P schtick, even though it's now been proven wrong via AGM.

Lu Bu for SK.

Proven how?

I hate arguing with a sack of potatoes.

Let me know when you're ready to use a brain.

That's rude and uncalled for.

I want to know how AGM's ability says that RC is scum as opposed to third party. It doesn't say either way, as far as I can tell.

Read thread.

If you don't feel like using wiki or reading the thread, stop wasting posts talking about this then. Spend your time scumhunting instead.

Your pushing RC is 3P was all sorts of funny bizness. Apparently you're just someone who doesn't bother conducting any research for the game they're playing in. If not, why sign up for a THEMED game?

[Iecerint]

There were better players to lose the duel and better players to win it. We don't even have a claim from inHim.

That was extremely premature.

[Maxous]

So you want inhim to win this duel?

Yep

By the way,
@Juls: Is your vote simply punishment on Mykonian? if you had to pick a winner who would you pick?

[Amrun]

I usually sign up for Themes I know, but in this case, I jus wanted to play the duel mechanic.

I intended to research, but my computer usually doesn't stay on for more than 5 minutes now (just shuts off, isn't that great) and researching on my phone is a pain so I just don't.

Explain to me what you think that write up quote meant, then, as I've asked you before.

[Juls]

@Juls: Is your vote simply punishment on Mykonian? if you had to pick a winner who would you pick?

I don't have a town read on either of them. If push came to shove and this was late game I would vote myko to win, but it's not and it looks scummy that he would take a target that everyone wants knowing he will win. They aren't on the same team but they could be two different scum teams. The only two people other than myself I would have chosen today is probably AGM or Vi.

[Iecerint]

@ Amrun -- Lu Bu is almost certainly a serial killer or analogous 3rd party role, especially since we know we have one. He's the strongest warrior in flavor, has a habit of killing his superiors and being kind of crazy, etc.

In internet culture, the "Don't Pursue Lu Bu" goofy translation achieved demi-meme status -- some people who don't know much about the game know about it --so I think it's very likely that he's in this game.

[mykonian]

@Juls: Is your vote simply punishment on Mykonian? if you had to pick a winner who would you pick?

I don't have a town read on either of them. If push came to shove and this was late game I would vote myko to win, but it's not and it looks scummy that

he would take a target that everyone wants knowing he will win.

They aren't on the same team but they could be two different scum teams. The only two people other than myself I would have chosen today is probably AGM or Vi.

Uhm, no. It's quite stupid to duel someone your townreads didn't agree on. More people know more. Which is partially why I asked Vi about Maxous.

[Iecerint]

Oh, I see...you're arguing that Gan Ning was the 3rd party.

Very unlikely, especially given AGM's info. Does not make flavor sense, and does not allow for Lu Bu's inclusion.

One possibility is that the flavor was intended to allude to the fact that Wu was sometimes allied with Wei.

[elvis_knits]

Myko, I think half the people haven't commented yet about the second duel... so yeah it was premature.



I'm getting more and more on your side, except for you rushing.

[Maxous]

@Iecerint:
AGM said 3 anti-town factions. It does'nt neccessarily mean anything such as an SK. It could be any anti-town role.
Red Coyote flipped the red Wu.
There is the green Shu and the yellow Turban people as well right(like the Zhang's)

I'm not saying you are wrong but I would'nt completely rule out RC being 3'rd party based on his character.
Did'nt RC's character(Gan ning) have a habit of changing alleigances anyway?

[Gammagooey]

Yeaaaah myko should have waited for an inhims claim.

Still almost certainly voting for inhims to die though.

[elvis_knits]

mykonian 822... Insufficient certainty for simple Y/N answer. Very large red flag thrown by Maxous in previous 72 hours. Extermination of Maxous not disallowed, but not priority.

Also, I'm not sure if my point about a possible RedCoyote-Maxous tie got lost in the wall. But RC's first wall post he votes and unvotes maxous in the same post then votes someone else (I think toasty). So the maxous vote was basically meaningless. Looks like scumbuddy distancing to me.

[Katsuki]

Explain to me what you think that write up quote meant, then, as I've asked you before.

Completely irrelevant. (for someone too lazy to look things up).

[Katsuki]

@Iecerint:
AGM said 3 anti-town factions. It does'nt neccessarily mean anything such as an SK. It could be any anti-town role.
Red Coyote flipped the red Wu.
There is the green Shu and the yellow Turban people as well right(like the Zhang's)

I'm not saying you are wrong but I would'nt completely rule out RC being 3'rd party based on his character.
Did'nt RC's character(Gan ning) have a habit of changing alleigances anyway?

I thought you had no flavor knowledge...

[mykonian]

Yeaaaah myko should have waited for an inhims claim.

Still almost certainly voting for inhims to die though.

Yeah, sorry about that. Wouldn't really make a difference for me, I have no doubt that Spyrex provided good fakeclaims, but I can see that that makes people nervous.

[mykonian]

mykonian 822... Insufficient certainty for simple Y/N answer. Very large red flag thrown by Maxous in previous 72 hours. Extermination of Maxous not disallowed, but not priority.

Also, I'm not sure if my point about a possible RedCoyote-Maxous tie got lost in the wall. But RC's first wall post he votes and unvotes maxous in the same post then votes someone else (I think toasty). So the maxous vote was basically meaningless. Looks like scumbuddy distancing to me.

That was exactly what I was thinking at that moment, but discarded it as too obvious.

And it probably is. RC isn't the player to give his buddy away that easily.

[Maxous]

As in his game role mykonian... not his character >_>

@Katsuki: I think you just assumed that. That being said I don't have a lot of knowledge about the theme and I am looking up stuff online about it.
It's just my very first thought about who the mafia team would be in this game - was the yellow guys. Because i thought they were the main enemy of that time. They seem to be in most adaptations anyway I've seen anyway :/

[elvis_knits]

I honestly don't care very much about this flavor BS and AGM's supposed info about three scum groups. I do not trust AGM's info out of hand. Maybe it's true but it's a scum power (isn't it helpful to them to know what they're up against?). Maybe it's not true and he's setting us up to believe that it's natural to have 3 kills (when 3 kills really means we empowered scum who got an extra kill). Honestly, it sounds to me like the game would be really scum-heavy with 2 3-man mafias and third party. But, hey I guess it's possible and I'm not the best balancer anyway. I just know that when I played in dynamite mafia it was 1 3-man scum team in a 20 player game (but that was vanilla).

So I take AGM with a grain of salt.