Juls wrote:Iecerint
Post 458: It does not matter if I were scum or if I were town, if I knew and enjoyed the subject matter I would probably come in excited and start discussing it. Your arguement is reaching and the fact that you have nothing else to offer looks scummy. You are pushing a lynch on something to me is not that lynchable in-of-itself. This is what scum do. They find the easy targets and they push them. You are absolutely at the top of my scumlist at the moment.
Post 470: No. I asked why scum would give away the farm in flavor spec. I think they would be a bit more careful.
Post 503: Again, your tunneling on this minor "slip" is tunneling. You should wait for a flip before you see this as anything more than just being a fan-boy.
Post 607: Your scum list are full of easy targets. Your town list is full of easy targets with the exception of a couple. Don't use red, it's the mod's color.
Post 626: Look at you immediately trying to discount a claim.
In order --
1. OBVIOUSLY. I agree 100% with the first half, at least. My point is that Ludi participated in spec because he likes the flavor. That's what created the environment where he slips. Your own paragraph logic here doesn't hold together -- participation in flavor spec is overdetermined by interest in the flavor regardless of alignment, as you yourself state.
2. I don't know what you mean by "farm flavor." I'm going to repost what I responded to and said because I'm not sure what you're taking exception to. I think this is basically the same point as #1, though:
Juls wrote:Post 394: The focus on the supposed scumslip by Ludi is being pushed a bit hard.
Do you think scum would be so forth coming with flavor knowledge and assumptions?
I think you are reaching here and it looks pretty scummy.
Iec, to someone else who complained that I was talking about Ludi re: Juls's comment, wrote:My point is that he participated in flavor spec largely because he is a flavor-fan.
Juls suggested that scum would not flavor-spec or openly make assumptions.
EDIT: OH, maybe you meant that scum would only flavor-spec in minor ways? I suppose that would be ideal, but it's not what happened.
3. If I see a legit slip -- let alone a constellation of slips -- by a player, I'm absolutely going to ask that player to be lynched. (I'm very annoyed that you keep calling it a "minor" slip; there was more than one slip, with major slips among them, and then tunneling on me until the Toasty wagon took off.) If you want to call that tunneling on my part, fine.
4. This is bogus IMO. "Your reads are similar to mine; ergo, you are scummy." Or I'm assuming that's where your sense of "easy" ultimately comes from.
5. No, I provided evidence both that the claim might be legit and that the claim might not be, because I had information about Toast and Zhang He and mod-talk pre-game. This is a straight-up misrep/misread. <_<
Since RC has flipped scum, I feel relatively strongly about Toast being killed. I think he had some unusual interactions with RC's slot during the game, etc. Only scumread in Gamma's new post is BB, though, so I suppose that'll do.
I'd really like it if he'd duel Ludi or Toast, though. D:
Fun fact: Assuming Gan Ning isn't 3rd party, Gan Ning comes from Sun Quan-era Wu. Fits with Ludi's "Quan family" focus. Though I suppose it doesn't fit the "family" focus idk.
