Alright, today I devoted my attention to Surye and Internet Stranger, to get a better picture of what is happening there.
Surye case:
-lack of content in posts in general
-of the votes made, generally very little reasoning in why those votes were made.
-tried to use a cop on day one
That's a fair amount of case if you look at that alone.. I think the scummiest factor is the lack of content with posts... very little finding his own information, I'm very wary of that.
His reasoning for Vez... well it seemed like genuine frustration in the situation we were placed in, back then I certainly thought that all the Vez wagoners were definitely scummy, but there was certainly a case.
Trying to use a cop on day one.... this is pretty bad. I think what is weird from my perspective...
Surye wrote:Cop investigates Vez night 1. The nice thing about this is if we only have an alignment cop, that is all we need.
Is there any question that we have a cop in a game of 25 people? Something about this strikes me as very odd.. unless i am missing a special meaning to alignment cop or something.
These are definitely some hardcore scum points going on... but at the same time, I don't feel quite as sure hit about this as Internet Stranger.
I wanted to look up Internet Stranger while I did this Surye check, because these are two names I very much associated together this game, just like Amrun goes with Toon Fighter, and Toon Fighter goes with Death Note.
Internet Stranger case:
There has also been a great lack of information... Internet Stranger has pointed to three people so far this game, as far as I saw.. Surye is by far #1 hit, i think we all know this. He also made a brief mention of Amrun, and Albert. His logic has mostly been sound, but at the same time, I noticed that Surye would ask IS for info, and he would just not give the info, and later say that Surye was just dodging the bullet and asking for more information, when all the information was there.
What I found especially interesting in this case, is that some of the same habits in Surye's style that IS pointed out as absolutely scummy, were pretty much the same points I found as a clearing point of Vez for me. This post stood out especially with that:
Internet Stranger wrote:Lawyers and scum do that all the time. I just refuse to fall for it. I dont see Surye defending himself. I dont see his explanation for his actions. I dont see him telling us what he has done for the town in terms of looking for the scum other than jumping on those silly bandwagons. What was his case on Furc again? Everyone else is doing it? Me? I think I found me some Day 1 scum, are those silly wagons on the most notorious players on the player list (Vezo and Furc) so overwhelmingly better? That doesn't seem suspicious to anyone else? It does to me!
It's true that Surye was on both those wagons.. but this lacking of defending himself? He certainly tried to explain about the cop thing, and after that, he asked for more explanation as to why he was suspicious, but IS stopped responding to that. I don't really think this is sound logic.. and IS has been dead set on Surye since the beginning of the day, he posts that we should kill him, but gives little info on anything else going on in the game. I'm kind of concerned about this pattern.
Summary:
Both IS and Surye have scummy points against them, IS is actually seeming worse to me than Surye though, based on the ISOs. Still leaning towards AGAR/furcolow over all though. I won't be available tomorrow, but the next day, I will try to make a post on those to to make a firm decision for day one.
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