There are a few things that have made me second guess this read but overall it sticks, reading through the thread Glass was one of my strongest scum-reads, mostly due to the fact that allof his posts were fluff, he avoided stating his opinion whenever possible. I disagree strongly with Llama's catch up post, I'll go into it.
LlamaFluff wrote: You ALWAYS ALWAYS lynch non-town claims, very simple fact of the game. Survivor is no exception, as it is an inherantly anti-town role.
No, you don't. That's an awful policy. Lynching any 'third-party claims' means you're openely admitting that you prefer a lynch other than scum. If you believe that he's fake claiming and actually scum that's a different story however at the current moment he's no immeditate threat towards us and nor was he on day one therefore lynching him would give us NO new information as the flip would be openely known before it occured.
LlamaFluff wrote: Lucky for us there are a few really scummy reactions to that claim. Page three and I am already happy with a lynch of Nacho or Doom. I would put down some money on one of them is scum (exactly one, not two). AV is another great bet on scum (also not with Doom), AV has the added bonus of being scummy on other levels too, consider him my vote for early game.
So, lets get this right. There are "a few scummy reactions" to Nachos claim, one of them being Nacho? If you don't include Nacho then the only people you've stated had a scummy reaction to his claim would be Doom and AV with you openely stating that only one would be scum.
LLamafluff wrote: Side point #1 - My lifespan in this game will likely be tied directly to what alignment my neighbors are. When I flip it will be obvious.
This is what made me question my scum-read on this slot, I really don't know what to make of it.
LLamaFluff, can you explain this please. It reads as you soft-claiming a PR and stating that the people in your QTS have been made aware of what PR you are exactly, however the fact that you soft-claimed PR in the thread means that you dying would no longer indicate them being mafia. The soft-claim really does seem pointless.
LlamaFluff wrote: Scum by far are happier with Nacho-survivor living then town is, as if the game hits lylo, all scum claim and nacho wins with them. No matter what Nacho says, he will side with scum if it gets close to an endgame, which is why you always lynch the claimed survivor. Yes I know im not voting him, but there is one tiny thing.
You've stated that you have claimed survivor as scum before making it possible that Nacho is scum however you've never stated if you believe it to be the case or not, and this post just screams of fecensitting over it.
LlamaFluff wrote: Go read past games and look at who got lynched day one and what they claimed. Look at the porportion of scum who claimed VT and something else (especially in closed games).
Lynch JJ here, Quar is town.
This attempt to move the lynch is incedibly weak, I know LLama is capabale of much more and I know he himself has links to prove the effectiveness of the VT claim principal that I believe he would have posted if he was town, especially knowing of the impending deadline.
LLamaFluff wrote: Pack/Twisted/Krypt has at least one scum in it from that BS wagon on NS in the early game. More likely then not Pack/Twisted is where the scum is with the other one being town, since this exchange is not scum-scum.
LlamaFluff wrote: Almost sure its one of Pack/Twisted at this point.
I find it interesting that he doesn't mention the 'strong' town-read he has on Twisted in either of these posts, especially because it would lead towards him being quite confident in Packbat being scum. He attempts to cover it by stating:
LlamaFluff wrote: Im allowed to change reads when more information comes out.
Nowhere in here did he say what 'new information' was released that changed his mind.
