Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Plum’s attempt to paint VPB as a SK instead of town is hysterical to me though it did at least let me think about the ability from multiple perspectives. I guess there could be unnamed limitations to the ability but to give a SK the ability to basically cut the day down to nothing and at a minimum in half multiple times would just destroy the town in comical fashion. This game is going to be so much easier now that I actually feel comfortable riding VPB’s coattails.
VOTE: MagnaofIllusion
Look at it this way: An SK has to have options for Casts that kill Town. An SK has no scumteam to back him up with Worships, so he has to coordinate some on his own just to get a Cast through, which is difficult. Therefore mega-Vig abilities plus an ability to increase one's own Faith bypassing the normal have-to-accumulate-support-from-somewhere-in-order-to-get-much-of-anything-done are very much in line with a reasonable Vi-minded solution to putting an SK in a game where scum need to accumulate Faith. Furthermore he has
another
ability which artificially accumulated Worship support directly to himself:
VP Baltar wrote:3 Faith - Project Rampage - I can target up to five players and if they're not Good (whatever that means) and they choose to worship, they worship me. Now the thing that is weird about this is that it says they worship me, not one of my domains. I'm not sure how this affects me...perhaps it gives me a permanent faith boost or something. idk.
Lastly we
don't
know what his limitations are for the Battery-drain-accumulate-Faith thing. But I do think back to the Holy Orders games, where the scum could manipulate the Battery to get extra Faith. You also misread - he can decrease the Battery a
maximum
of %50 - and as Vi promotes quick Days as pro-Town it's not unreasonable for that to be a multi-use ability even for an SK.
DemoinAngel wrote:
Also VP is TOTALLY Tahlridaniur with his ABR fake-claim. Beautiful Vi, beautiful. Keep this in mind because AGMDERP and otehrs have said, I'm probably not going to make it till end game.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS GAME I CAN SAY HONESTLY HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU YOU BRILLIANT FOOL <3
VP Baltar wrote:Plum wrote:Right. VPB's abilities lean SK over Town to me
Sure thing darlin'. I was scum for my QT knowledge, now I'm SK cause I just made you look pretty stupid for your weak wagon attempt on me. You scums have too much pride to go slinking away now. Get your buddy MoI over here to back you on this line of malarky. I'll just shoot you both in the face anyhow.
Uh, no. You're scum for your claim. Just plain Vig who shot Hito would've been normal and I'd believe it came from Town - but while you're almost certainly not TIGER scum and I was wrong, however good I felt my case was, it is unrelated entirely to my old case and your put-downs make no difference to me on that count. I don't think I did look stupid for my previous case and vote on you, I don't think it was weak, and I have no interest in voting anyone for making me look stupid because that's a part of this game. Your powers are SK powers completely. We don't have confirmation on the limits of your Battery-drain powers, your power-combinations make sense for an SK, and your argument that your powers are unbalanced for SK are completely without the hard data we'd need to say that. It's an assumption we'd have to make about the setup and about how much truth you've told about your powers. Variations of the powers you've claimed could be very reasonably balanced for an SK in this game. If you plan to shoot me it doesn't look likely that I'll be able to stop you. But no. I'm sure as hell not slinking away from someone I suspect of being the SK. Anyway. Why'd you Worship one of your own Domains N0?
VOTE: VP Baltar
If there's nothing to be done about the Magna lynch - I am very much disinclined to think Magna would attempt to fake that in this situation - I
insist
VPB answer this question before any hammers. I confirm Worshiping Justice/Balance tonight.