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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:52 am

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Rupert wrote:lynch me find. I killed TSS-
Jared Cooper is my actual role- Vig.

Lynch away, set me free
Were you also triggered?
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:44 am

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BabyJesus wrote:My vote was from hypothesizing that you were responsible for one of the extra kills, since you were roleblocked last night when we had less kills. You are claiming vig, so I was right.
If that's the kind of thing that's passing for a well-reasoned justification, how about this: my vote was from pointing out that your decision to vote on the basis of that, when numerous other explanations exist, was irresponsible. One of those other explanations has turned out to be the case (though, I'll admit, not the one I would have expected), so I was right.

Unless someone can point to a specific reason to shift my vote to Fritzler or Ranger, I would invite other players to join me on a BabyJesus bandwagon. From a sheer numbers standpoint, one of the three (and possibly more) is almost certain to be scum, but I like BJ better than the other two.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:50 am

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Fuldu wrote:Unless someone can point to a specific reason to shift my vote to Fritzler or Ranger, I would invite other players to join me on a BabyJesus bandwagon. From a sheer numbers standpoint, one of the three (and possibly more) is almost certain to be scum, but I like BJ better than the other two.
Hmmm, I don't want to let ranger down, he says I just shamelessly vote (which is basically true), so
Vote: Baby Jesus


Yea. I didn't find it that weak of a reason, though, I mean he was right that PB was responsible for one of the additional kills last night. I think he covereed the most likely scenario, even if there were other options.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:03 pm

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Fritzler wrote:Yea. I didn't find it that weak of a reason, though, I mean he was right that PB was responsible for one of the additional kills last night. I think he covereed the most likely scenario, even if there were other options.
But a) the fact that he didn't kill Night Three doesn't support that argument if you're talking about a vig who may not have even attempted a kill Night Three, and b) if your argument is equally supportive of the notion that someone is a vig as that they're scum, that's an irresponsible reason to push a bandwagon this late in the game.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:13 pm

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Fuldu wrote:
Fritzler wrote:Yea. I didn't find it that weak of a reason, though, I mean he was right that PB was responsible for one of the additional kills last night. I think he covereed the most likely scenario, even if there were other options.
But a) the fact that he didn't kill Night Three doesn't support that argument if you're talking about a vig who may not have even attempted a kill Night Three, and b) if your argument is equally supportive of the notion that someone is a vig as that they're scum, that's an irresponsible reason to push a bandwagon this late in the game.
Fuldu wins. :cry:
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So do i need to go back and read day 1 for all of the time i was incapacitated or w/e happened to me?
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:50 pm

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I coulda killed any night. I chose not to. No triggers. I wanted to get an idea of who is who and not kill anyone importent. Doesn't look like that worked well.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:12 pm

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Fritzler wrote:So do i need to go back and read day 1 for all of the time i was incapacitated or w/e happened to me?
Ai, I'd forgotten entirely about that. A quick check, combined with the fact that it hasn't happened again, suggests that this was probably Jubal Early and that we don't need to worry about it any more, but we should keep the possibility in mind that this could happen again.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:21 pm

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Vote Count


Baby Jesus (2)
- Fuldu, Fritzler
Fritzler (1)
- Ranger

Not voting: Peacebringer, Baby Jesus, Otaku, DP


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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:32 pm

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Fritzler wrote:
Fuldu wrote:Unless someone can point to a specific reason to shift my vote to Fritzler or Ranger, I would invite other players to join me on a BabyJesus bandwagon. From a sheer numbers standpoint, one of the three (and possibly more) is almost certain to be scum, but I like BJ better than the other two.
Hmmm, I don't want to let ranger down, he says I just shamelessly vote (which is basically true), so
Vote: Baby Jesus


Yea. I didn't find it that weak of a reason, though, I mean he was right that PB was responsible for one of the additional kills last night. I think he covereed the most likely scenario, even if there were other options.
wow, you're quite the bandwagon jumper. :P
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:32 pm

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BabyJesus wrote:
Fritzler wrote:
Fuldu wrote:Unless someone can point to a specific reason to shift my vote to Fritzler or Ranger, I would invite other players to join me on a BabyJesus bandwagon. From a sheer numbers standpoint, one of the three (and possibly more) is almost certain to be scum, but I like BJ better than the other two.
Hmmm, I don't want to let ranger down, he says I just shamelessly vote (which is basically true), so
Vote: Baby Jesus


Yea. I didn't find it that weak of a reason, though, I mean he was right that PB was responsible for one of the additional kills last night. I think he covereed the most likely scenario, even if there were other options.
wow, you're quite the bandwagon jumper. :P
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:12 pm

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At this point, I feel like BJ or fritzler are both probably scum, I don't care who we lynch out of these two.
I wonder where DP is though.
Also I wonder if a mass claim would be a worthwile option
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:34 pm

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I'm here, but swamped at the moment. I will try to do a re-read soon.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:13 am

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yes Okatu, mass claim would be a great Idea. Why don't you start.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:50 am

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Otaku376 wrote: Also I wonder if a mass claim would be a worthwile option
I have said this several times....

I would be happy to "fess up" first if you like....
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:51 am

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meanwhile, I'm going to
vote fritzler


I know he likes to bandwagon, but seriously, he's acting like he really doesn't care today who we lynch....

I do that kind of thing day one. This late in the game not such a good idea.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:46 pm

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24 hours and nothing but baby jesus- not surprised.

Claim folks, I don't care who first. JUST GET R' DONE!
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:46 am

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I am Inara, my role triggered when Mal died
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:48 am

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I am Captain Monty, townie.

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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:30 am

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I am Durran Haymer, a townie.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:38 am

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Sheriff Bourne-I'll claim ability after everyone else claims.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:38 am

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I'm Bester, vanilla townie.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:49 am

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BabyJesus wrote:
Otaku376 wrote: Also I wonder if a mass claim would be a worthwile option
I have said this several times....

I would be happy to "fess up" first if you like....
I claimed here, fyi....

Fess Higgins, townie.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:11 am

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BabyJesus - Fess Higgins/Townie
RangeroftheNorth - Durran Haymer/Townie
Dragon Phoenix - Captain Monty/Townie
Fritzler - Sheriff Bourne/Tracker
Fuldu - Bester/Townie
Otaku376 II - Inara/Role triggered when Mal died
Peacebringer - Jayne Cobb/Vig

I'm a tracker. Sadly I have no useful info. I can confirm 2ish people that haven't killed though.

N1-I was roleblocked in addition to the jacking/kidnapping
N2-I tracked ~ didn't see him do anything, thought he was mafia that didn't kill, that's why i went after him.
N3-Ranger didn't target anyone, so I believe his claim.
N4-I thought Yos was claiming to be tracker on D3, which i didn't believe so i followed him, he blocked DP, so DP didn't make a kill last night.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:01 am

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Investigative results on people thus far:

BabyJesus - none
Dragon Phoenix - cleared by Iammars, RBed Night 4, per Fritzler
Fritzler - none
Fuldu - cleared by EmpTyger
Otaku II - cleared by EmpTyger (also, major role not counter-claimed)
PeaceBringer - cleared by Otaku (also, major role not counter-claimed)
RangeroftheNorth - didn't kill Night 3, per Fritzler

Now, personally, I believe both Otaku and PB, especially since they claimed before any of the rest of us. It's possible that a group was given a safe name, but I'm going to put that low on the list of concerns for now.

I don't especially credit Fritzler's claim, particularly given the tenuous conclusion that he draws about Ranger (if we still believe in the possibility of two Niskas remaining, then Ranger could be scum and need not have targeted anyone Night 3), but I still think BJ is the best bet for scum, given the above results.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:09 am

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Looking over the claims, I am least inclinded to believe Fuldu's claim of Bester, Emptyger's investigation of him makes it harder for me go against him though. Bring in the question of Kaylee's objective nature versus her very optimistic nature (read: possible naive cop?)...and it is quite a quandry.
Next on my list of least likely claims falls BJ.
Then Fritzler, but an actual role with actions makes it more believable.
I had figured that Captain Monty would probably be a townie role plus fritzler and Iammar's results make DP much more likely innocent.
Durran Haymer also seems reasonable to me, it just bothers me that there are two townies from one episode and no sign of Saffron.
And Jayne is hard to argue not to be here. If the mod wanted to put a "safe" scum claim in, it'd probably be Jayne since he is a mercenary after all. I do not think that is the case here.
At this point I am going to
vote: BabyJesus

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