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Seraphim she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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Right, my post last night got eaten by the Ninja-filter and getting kicked off the computer &c. Whatever.
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Quadz's claim is scumtastic beyond not protecting Nicki Minaj and being Evil-aligned (the first of which is hugely scummy and the second of which is merely suggestive but carries at least a bit of weight given what we know). The expense-spread is wildly indicative of a scumbag would have to pay for ability uses as opposed to aTownie: Hide being the most expensive of Quadz's Casts matches Hide being basically Commute for a scumbag if played with half a brain, which can be extremely powerful and critical. Vig only working on Good players is suggestive as well (hell, we don't even know that the scum have inherent allegiance-based kill actions available; and compare Quadz's ability to kill the person on average last on the wagons costing as much as a conditional but straight Vigkill: WHAT?) - and beyond that there's another point on the expense-spread that looksdamning- I don't want to go into details here and now, but yeah. Doesn't look good either. In short, Quadz's claim is a scum one and those defending him on basis that a Townie might make the stupid/unconventional play of opting for the Neighborizer or whatever are certainly not considering things very critically and BAD.
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Faraday wrote:Faraday: why did you respond to Parama, but not Plum?
B/c he's town and she's scum. Duh.
Man, look, we're none of us always right, and you have the right to have a scumread on me. But if you won't talk to me and won't respond to me when I ask you questions there's no way for our interaction to produce the results you generally try to get out of the Day phase.
Other things: VPB slip is scummy and you'll excuse me but VV did the same thing in a game that just ended with me on his scumteam. Damage control was attempted. But the manner in which it happened - discussing a strong read on someone because it wouldn't make sense otherwise given scum Daytalk - is a mirror image of what happened. So yeah: THAT THING.
hitogoroshi wrote:Magua's right on the money re: Quadz. Scum probably have one or two abilities they saved up to use N1, and then a killer. Scum quadz being one of these abilities, to neighborize someone who is probably the singular best person at reading him? yeahno.
Discounting possibility of inherent Neighborizer scum-Quadz, discounting possibility of Quadz herp-derp randomly getting enough Faith (three or if he's fakeclaiming maybe even less) to do a little something and picking that/having that be the only viable choice or nothing (well no, wait, it's actually more like what Gamma's been suggesting given the no Worship N0/Cast N1 thing but point is the possibilities are there and viable and rrrrrgh)? What is this? Hito. Nonono. And here I was wondering why the hell people had scumreads on you.
Gammagooey wrote:Oh @ Hito- Parama has been at least partially intentionally scummy. Although doing it to the extent he has is irritating, it's not nearly as scummy as someone who's been trying to look town and failed miserably.
What is this I don't - ah hell. If I actually am getting things right with Hito you may be right, but Parama acting this way on purpose doesn't seem like it's been done with a Town purpose behind it. Dammit,things.
Seraphim wrote:Also, question for hito: why are you so willing to believe quadz's claim and immediately declare him as town, when you immediately declared AGM scum upon claim of a power which you equated with neighborizor:
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Yes, this.
VP Baltar wrote:Magua wrote:Doublepost: Scum almost certainly have daytalk because the neighbors have daytalk, and VPB's #681 is almost certainly a scumslip.
So I say scum probably have daytalk, which was pointed out in the rules, and you say I'm scum because I said that. This is probably the first dumb thing I've ever heard you say Magua. Congrats.
Come on, even I didn't screw this up; you said scum have Daytalk before Singer confirmed (give or take) that Neighborized have daytalk. The second is strong circumstantial evidence towards something we didn't know before - except, or so it seems, you.
Parama, I'd read a RayFrost case of yours (admittedly partly because I'm already focusing on you, but).
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Hito wrote:I actually would've aimed at Minaj (naive on chaotic strongly implies a lawful cop) as scumquadz but regardless.
Sorry that makes no sense. A Lawful character would make more sense being Paranoid about Chaotics. If anything I'd say it makes NM more likely to be Chaotic Good.
True this (Vi might fancy herself [himself?] Neutral Neutral, but there you are).
sottyrulez wrote:The point is hypo-visit someone and if that someone is being watched we will be seen. AKA we aren't a ninja no matter how you try to twist it.
You're right, I did screw that up. So you're detectable by Watch but not by Track. Hmm, that's fair enough. Sorry for my repeated thickness of the skull.
ooba wrote:I just cannot work in the "Inexplicably Mutated" bit into this theory .. "Shot" seems more traditional but why would a vig kill Nikki Minaj?
Killflavors (especially if my guess is right and scum generally depend on Casts for kills) may be more varied than in some of the previous Vi game and/or may be correlating with specific Casts rather than specific Allegiances.
Fate if you're going to put me down at the bottom of your scumlist you need to man up and mention me in your frakking post. No, really. Various and sundry people are occasionally randomly calling me scum in this game. The more random it seems, and the more sheepy it seems, the less I think of it as not playing at the very top of my game and the more I see someone liking to rag on me because it will be useful later in the game.
Right, I have more stuff from last night I lost and want to reconstruct, but: How ready are we for a hammer?-
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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Debonair Danny DiPietro Jack of All Trades
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Gammagooey Glad Hatter
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I'm being serious. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt about computer probs cause that happens, but I still see some talk about quadz being scum in your iso and nary a vote in his direction. Luckily, I find you less scummy for that than a few others.YOUR AD HERE
Too busy with work to play mafia right now but I shall return some day!-
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How nice of you guys to hammer when we have at least two players that've posted nearly nothing this game day. Lovely bit of rushing a lynch without trying to maximize the content quantity. In the case that quadz flips town, I'd like a doughnut. A chocolate one with frosting.
In the case that he flips scum, I will post an image of someone eating a hat.don't you feel silly now?-
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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Vi Professor Paragon
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Vote Count VII:Alors! Ze French spy!
quadz08 (LYNCH) ~ VP Baltar, Parama, ooba, sottyrulez, Faraday, Demonic Angel, Gammagooey, Seraphim, AlmasterGM, Debonair Danny DiPietro
Demonic Angel (L-8) ~RayFrost, MagnaofIllusionAlmasterGM,
Parama (L-8) ~ Plum, hitogoroshi
VP Baltar (L-9) ~ Magua, quadz08
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-10) ~quadz08
hitogoroshi (L-10) ~AlmasterGM
Minimum (L-10)
Not Voting:Nobody Special, singersigner, VasudeVaDebonair Danny DiPietro,
Battery power:||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(40%)
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--- quadz08, High Priest of DrippingGoofball, and --- Sexily Hammered During Karaoke Hour Day 2!!!
Please stand by for a PM detailing your options for Night 2. Please submit an action within three days. Don't wait the entire three days, please.
Also, please do not write fanfiction about quadz getting sexily hammered during karaoke hour.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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--- Gammagooey --- High Priest of Yosarian2, andTown--- Went SPLAT Night 2...
--- hitogoroshi --- Just hitogoroshi, not a pony but aTIGER--- Mowed Down Night 2!
--- singersigner --- High Priestess of Fate, and aTIGER--- Embraced Destiny's Bond Night 2!
--- dramonic --- High Priest of Furcolow, andTown--- Struck by Lightning Night 2.
Vote Count VIII:It's raining cats, hallelujah!
Minimum (L-8)
Not Voting:AlmasterGM, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Faraday,Demonic Angel, MagnaofIllusion, Magua, Nobody Special, ooba, Parama, Plum,Gammagooey, hitogoroshi,RayFrost, Seraphim,quadz08,sottyrulez,singersigner,VP Baltardramonic,
-It is now Day 3!
--With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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sottyrulez Mafia Scum
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Seraphim she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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We love you GG. We'll string up more scum in your honor and hang their entrails from the rafters to avenge your death.
SS(especially) and hito's flip implies that they KNEW that quadz was going to hang today and were trying to salvage some town cred and clear SS. So I seriously that anyone left in the pro-quadz camp is scum, given that at 3/(4 or 5)ths was anti-quadz yesterday. I just feel like the remaining scum(s) was A. on the wagon or B. somewhere between the two camps.
Of course, it's highly possible that I'm completely wrong but given that we suddenly have three scum flips...I don't think they would put all their eggs in one basket.
I could see Plum scum.
But no one vote RayFrost for now please. Seriously. I have VERY good reasons.
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