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[RayFrost]

EBWOP: And certain people (coughquadzcough) try to use the replacing thing to label me as "not playing the game"

to call me scum

.

Quoting the only DA post that can be seen as stating a reason quadz is scum.

Out of 45 posts.

Aside from this, DA actually has three posts for MoI.

That makes 4 / 45. Little bit less than 1/9 of the posting.

Congratulations. You're really showing your stances and reasoning, bro.

[RayFrost]

Oh, I forgot about the katsuki posts. Let me go iso that account, too.

[RayFrost]

Yeah, add another 19 posts to the post total, still only 4 posts with reasoning, but you can add ~3 posts with stances.

[hitogoroshi]

Okaaaay then let's say that quads shares a domain with the guy that has an awesome cast at 2-3. Assuming 5-6 scum would you have quadz no-cast since they'd both be able to get the benefits and it would make quadz look a little townier to neighborize someone?

That's a possibility, I admit. But I doubt the scum have any doubled-up domains. It's powerful in an unfun way (makes the optimal move really plain) and weak in a really annoying way (more completely safe domains - my personal suspicion is 6 scum evenly across all 12 domains).

MY POINT WITH ALL THIS silliness is that you're looking at one possibility and going that's what happened. When there are ALSO possibilities that could have quadz be a scum neighborizer who neighborized his wife for townpoints, and you're letting him off the hook despite his play being literally the scummiest in the entire game by a very very large margin.
I am not going to unvote him for a godamn POSSIBILITY, when every bit of his play looks like scum scumming it up with his scums who love scumming in the scumscum.

From what I've seen of Quadz, he couldn't fool his way out of an especially gullible paper bag. If he's scum, I'm sure singersinger will catch it soon enough. At any rate I see ZERO reason to rush the lynch like you've been screaming for.

Also, how the fucking HELL has quadz been scummier than Parama?

Erm. Are you trying to tell if Justice/Balance got juiced by scum? Because of ooba's claim?

Yes. There are only two types of people I see claiming a sweet PR from the word go:

• Townies
  
• Antitowns with a sicknasty, tricksy PR that requires a lot of faith

Basically, I think it's very unlikely that there's a PR SO GOOD a scum will risk asking for worships in thread yet simultaneously not good enough to get juiced from his buddies. Hence, ooba with low faith N0 is probtown.

So why Justice and Balance alone - because I asked for worship in those domains? Ideally we should figure out the entire spread of faith for every night to see how people are worshiping.

Full-full-claiming would be bad. Too much lost, not enough gained.

See above for why I'm asking re: you specificially.

That being said, it might be worth having every 4+ faith player to claim? Will think.

Faraday:

I suspect I know the answer, but how much thinking have you done re: the specific mechanics of this setup?

[Faraday]

eh? I figured out my pm and know how worship and all that stuff works. why?

[Faraday]

This isn't stars aligned (open set-up_. Vi's got her shit together, I'm sure there's more than enough curveballs. Don't see any good from worship claiming or any of that. let's just lynch quadz. which you should do.

[Nobody Special]

@RayFrost: Tell me why I should believe you're town.

[AlmasterGM]

@AGM: He's busy raging in our QT about CYS.

You know what. Wait.

This is a lie.

Unvote, Vote: Demonic Angel

[Gammagooey]

Magua I'm leaning town on singer but it's not a particularly strong read.

Also is Ray not counting posts I made about quadz or is he being all HERF SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A TOWN THOUGHT PROCESS ISN'T SCUMHUNTING.

If you'd like some more on why it's not town it's because it's WAY too cautious- it's basically a jailkeep at WORST and he chose to not use it at all, and he even had someone that if he thought he was scum he could just roleblock them as well 100% (sotty). It's like he was so worried about being called out for a POSSIBLE roleblock that he would rather stay alive longer than potentially do something godamn helpful.

@AGM-?

[Demonic Angel]

EBWOP: And certain people (coughquadzcough) try to use the replacing thing to label me as "not playing the game"

to call me scum

.

Quoting the only DA post that can be seen as stating a reason quadz is scum.

Out of 45 posts.

Aside from this, DA actually has three posts for MoI.

That makes 4 / 45. Little bit less than 1/9 of the posting.

Congratulations. You're really showing your stances and reasoning, bro.

There are many other posts referring to Quadz, though not necessarily by name.

I have a lot of posts like that.

[RayFrost]

@RayFrost: Tell me why I should believe you're town.

> Read my posts

> Determine for yourself that I'm brilliant

> ????

> PROFIT

The four step guide to figuring me out.

Now... when was the last time you listed your scum reads?

Unvote, Vote: Demonic Angel

- I believe faraday's just trolling at this point. His play makes no sense to me otherwise, but I honestly can't get a handle on my read of him until I feel certain he's not doing this shit deliberately..

[Demonic Angel]

@AGM: He's busy raging in our QT about CYS.

You know what. Wait.

This is a lie.

Unvote, Vote: Demonic Angel

Cute.

YOU DELETING SCUM BAG.

"OH NOOO WHO KILLED MY FATEY POOO"

YOU
SCUM

BAG

[Gammagooey]

Oh @ Hito- Parama has been at least partially intentionally scummy. Although doing it to the extent he has is irritating, it's not nearly as scummy as someone who's been trying to look town and failed miserably.

[Demonic Angel]

Now... when was the last time you listed your scum reads?

Unvote, Vote: Demonic Angel

- I believe faraday's just trolling at this point. His play makes no sense to me otherwise, but I honestly can't get a handle on my read of him until I feel certain he's not doing this shit deliberately..

My iso states who I've thought are scum over the entire course of this game quite clearly. Though, they sometimes involve you reading them in context with the game.

But that vote.

"I'mma vote DA while fate isn't posting and when I can bully Kats because I think Faraday is dodgy"

WUT?

[RayFrost]

Now... when was the last time you listed your scum reads?

Unvote, Vote: Demonic Angel

- I believe faraday's just trolling at this point. His play makes no sense to me otherwise, but I honestly can't get a handle on my read of him until I feel certain he's not doing this shit deliberately..

My iso states who I've thought are scum over the entire course of this game quite clearly. Though, they sometimes involve you reading them in context with the game.

But that vote.

"I'mma vote DA while fate isn't posting and when I can bully Kats because I think Faraday is dodgy"

WUT?

Because screaming "X IS SCUM" without providing evidence is very useful, yes.

.... What? 1) didn't know fate was in the hydra, 2) my faraday commentary is explaining why I'm less certain about him than I am about you - nothing to do with my scum read (hint: my scum read's pointed out by my summary of your iso)

[RayFrost]

Fate could post a thousand times and if his posts were as scummy as your own, I'd still be voting you.

[Demonic Angel]

Oh yeah shit lol I forgot I was keeping the fate-head secret forthelols.

Goddamn it AGM. Just because I got fate and you didn't.

[Demonic Angel]

Fate could post a thousand times and if his posts were as scummy as your own, I'd still be voting you.

Derp.

The sad thing is, you're always finding a new thing to call scummy after I point out how the thing before you called scummy didn't actually exist.

[RayFrost]

So anyway, is anybody else in that hydra actually up to date and posting something worth a damn, or is it all silent hill in your QT? This is relevant to my read of you, by the way.

Erm, you saying "i r referenced him many many tiems" without pointing the posts out where you do so hardly counts as invalidating my argument. Evidence, not hearsay.

[RayFrost]

So I'm going to stop posting now in preference to watching youtube videos and playing League of Legends.

Bye.

[Demonic Angel]

Fate hasn't read the game, plain and simple.

I'm not posting again until he posts then. Arguing with scum tires me. I'll leave casebuilding to him.

[Seraphim]

Vote: quadz

I have no issue with this vote.

[Seraphim]

Also, question for hito: why are you so willing to believe quadz's claim and immediately declare him as town, when you immediately declared AGM scum upon claim of a power which you equated with neighborizor:

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[VP Baltar]

MoI didn't go V/LA... nice try at the misrep, though.

He claimed it in other games...which you probably would have seen had you looked. Nice not reading there. lol, I like that your following quote is:

Gamma: READ THREAD PLZ.

Good stuff.

Second, didn't have anyone worth doctoring. Might as well prevent the mislynch.

lol...wanted to save my ass!

Jeebus. Look, the only player I thought likely to get hit was NM-town (and that's only because of the claim), and I was far from sure that NM was town. Besides, my doc is also an RB, and in a game like this, RBing anybody could be bad news.

So you thought docing the cop that was likely to die was bad because they wouldn't get their ability for a night? k.

I also don't like the VPB side of the VPB-DDD interactions. Getting someone to seek your approval is a great way to get a sneaky town read from them, and his early "AH. ALREADY FEEL BETTAH ABOUT YA MATE" seems a little artificial.

Seek your approval what? You do realize I started those interactions, right? You are so scum this game. You may as well claim it now, cause you're next on the chopping block brotha.

so what, scum decided n0 "kay let's make sure quadz can get his neighborize off tomorrow. someone worship his domains"

I'm sure that is what they were planning to do....or it was his last ditch effort to ingratiate himself to singer to save his ass. P. sure scum weren't planning on him getting strung up and saved by a modkill on day 1. Additionally, he could have just used an ability instead of a cast. Funny how that never crosses your mind.

I think maybe you're coming from the perspective of forgetting how fucking terrible it is being a groomed mislynch. when's the last time you've been misylnched?

I'm tired of this argument too. quadz should have been lynched D1 for his scummy ass behavior. He wasn't magically set up overnight to look scummier than he already is. You know who uses these kinds of arguments? Scum. How the hell do you think I got most of my team to survive so long in SAIII when they should have been lynched by like Day 5...by shouting

Conspiracy!

at every single turn.

And yet, simultaneously, he's on the waiting half of the scumteam instead of the worshipping. All to neighborize someone...who can probably read him extremely well?

Well he certainly fooled you, so it doesn't seem like that stupid of an idea now does it?

Doublepost: Scum almost certainly have daytalk because the neighbors have daytalk, and VPB's #681 is almost certainly a scumslip.

So I say scum probably have daytalk, which was pointed out in the rules, and you say I'm scum because I said that. This is probably the first dumb thing I've ever heard you say Magua. Congrats.

For those of you who think Quadz is town just because of the neighbourize, you need to realize that Quadz-scum could have still worshipped N0 and neighborized singer N1 where neighbor is a Power role ability instead of a cast.

oh dingdingding, we have a winner.

quadz should be dead already. Less chat, more splat. Let's go. VV not posting at all today is a huge scumtell too.

[VP Baltar]

@hito - has quadz done anything at all this game you find scummy?