Chuck Season 1 - GAME OVER

[PeregrineV]

MikeBurnFire reread:
Seems sincerely town, but a better read on him will depend on Dana/Ooba re-read and re-re-reread.

Note: Has dana and ooba as scum.

ooba reread:
Mostly town. Seems involved in the conversation and in results.
Note: has dana and MikeBurnFire as town.

[Thor665]

Dana and EP are both fine wagons. I'm pretty on the RC wagon.

@ooba - what sort of jump from one wagon to another isn't atrocious in your mind? You called me for the same thing and now left me to vote RC for that tell...does that make your jump atrocious or not? Last I checked vote hopping wasn't a scumtell, yeah?

[ooba]

Dana and EP are both fine wagons. I'm pretty on the RC wagon.

@ooba - what sort of jump from one wagon to another isn't atrocious in your mind? You called me for the same thing and now left me to vote RC for that tell...does that make your jump atrocious or not? Last I checked vote hopping wasn't a scumtell, yeah?

Vote hopping is not a scum tell. However jumping on the biggest\most probable wagon in such a manner (see below) is scummy .. This plus the earlier vote post on MBF is the basis of my reads ..

If people ignore the obvious and refuse to vote mbf, then I will be voting Energetic Penguin, who is a null read for me. He's not incredibly pro-town, so he's not a BAD mislynch if he is one.

Haven't read yet.

But WHAT about this post is pro-town in ANY WAY.

Unvote; Vote: danakillsu

All the way, this time.

[mikeburnfire]

Mmmn. I think some credence could be lent to RC being scum. His erratic playstyle makes it difficult for me to pin down, if I recall. But what dana said *WAS* actually very scummy, so I don't think this push is justified.

[Thor665]

@ooba - do you think dana didn't sound scummy?

[ReaperCharlie]

- The most recent jump on dana was atrocious
- Just call it a RC-scumdar but I've been able to accurately guess his alignment in games we've played together

Unvote. Vote: RC

I'll vote back ep if this doesn't get traction .. However, we have enough time to take this RC wagon "all the way" ..

Are you talking about Harry Potter, or Succession? Because you didn't guess my alignment in either.

And if you think I'm scum now, that's just further proof that you're wrong. That is a town-tell though.

I will re-read soon and tally up all of the town-tells and scum-tells, and give you guys a list with colors.

[Mastermind of Sin]

If people ignore the obvious and refuse to vote mbf, then I will be voting Energetic Penguin, who is a null read for me. He's not incredibly pro-town, so he's not a BAD mislynch if he is one.

WTF?

Unvote, Vote: dana

That is super scumplay. No protown person should sacrifice their top suspect for a null read.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, ooba, how is my jump to dana atrocious in any way?

[ChannelDelibird]

How is saying that if his top suspect doesn't have enough votes before the deadline that he'll switch to someone he's not sure on in order to ensure town gets a lynch a bad thing?

Like, seriously. Town needs lynches. There's obviously not much of a consensus. It's entirely reasonable of dana to say that.

[ooba]

@ooba - do you think dana didn't sound scummy?

No. If there's a deadline looming, you've sometimes got to settle for a non-optimal lynch from your read viewpoint - Any lynch preferable to NL.

[ooba]

- The most recent jump on dana was atrocious
- Just call it a RC-scumdar but I've been able to accurately guess his alignment in games we've played together

Unvote. Vote: RC

I'll vote back ep if this doesn't get traction .. However, we have enough time to take this RC wagon "all the way" ..

Are you talking about Harry Potter, or Succession? Because you didn't guess my alignment in either.

And if you think I'm scum now, that's just further proof that you're wrong. That is a town-tell though.

I will re-read soon and tally up all of the town-tells and scum-tells, and give you guys a list with colors.

Harry Potter - N1, it was toss up between farside and you for who I'd target as a traitor.
Succession - Gut kept telling me your cop claim was fake. Did I not mention you were a recruit but not possible recruiter in thread?
Star Wars - Got you crosskilled
Plus modded two games with you - one as scum (Stardust) and one as town (Time Travel).

[ReaperCharlie]

HP: What was with the "Kmd/FG, are you AC/AC?" thing then? 0_o
Succession: My cop claim wasn't fake. I was a cop, lol.
Star Wars: Yeah well... that was my first game on site.

Yeah, I know what games of yours I've been in

[Mastermind of Sin]

How is saying that if his top suspect doesn't have enough votes before the deadline that he'll switch to someone he's not sure on in order to ensure town gets a lynch a bad thing?

Like, seriously. Town needs lynches. There's obviously not much of a consensus. It's entirely reasonable of dana to say that.

I find it suspicious that dana only has one suspect in this entire game.

[ChannelDelibird]

How is saying that if his top suspect doesn't have enough votes before the deadline that he'll switch to someone he's not sure on in order to ensure town gets a lynch a bad thing?

Like, seriously. Town needs lynches. There's obviously not much of a consensus. It's entirely reasonable of dana to say that.

I find it suspicious that dana only has one suspect in this entire game.

That doesn't invalidate the rationale.

[Mastermind of Sin]

My point is that if he's going to compromise, it should be someone he at least slightly thinks is scum. I find it hard to believe that he has one guy he thinks is SUPER scummy and no one else between that an "null tell".

[danakillsu]

None of what people are saying about me makes any sense. They want to believe that last post was scummy, but can't explain why. When they try to explain, they say I want to give up my top scum read for a null read, which is obviously not true, since I said "IF NO ONE WILL VOTE MBF". And they also say that I have one suspect in the entire game, which is also not true, since my suspicions of PeregrineV have not gone away. There is nothing scummy about saying I'll lynch one person if people won't help me lynch another. If you want to lynch me for saying that, go ahead and jump on the scum-driven wagon. Just remember this:

But what dana said *WAS* actually very scummy, so I don't think this push is justified.

I think this speaks for itself. No explanation, no attempt to persuade, no nothing. I'm just "very scummy" and that's the end of it, according to him. Don't think about it, just lynch me. Poor OMGUS'ing scum.

[Magua]

Unofficial vote count

danakillsu (4): PerigrineV, mikeburnfire, ReaperCharlie, Mastermind of Sin
Energetic Penguin (2): Magua, Thor665
ReaperCharlie (2): MarchHare, ooba
mikeburnfire (1): danakillsu
Thor665 (1): Ragnarokio

Dana. Get this through your head: MBF is not getting lynched today.

Ragnarokio. I know you're active. Thor is not getting lynched today.

Both of you need to put your vote somewhere useful.

[Mastermind of Sin]

What are the cases on EP and RC?

[mikeburnfire]

V/LA for the weekend, but that's okay because it will be night anyway.

[Ragnarokio]

Unvote

Vote: EP

EP's been less useful than Dana, and I'd rather get lurkier people out of the way quicker. My reads on both of them are fairly neutral.

[ReaperCharlie]

V/LA for the weekend, but that's okay because it will be night anyway.

Me too.

[Magua]

Unofficial vote count

danakillsu (4): PerigrineV, mikeburnfire, ReaperCharlie, Mastermind of Sin
Energetic Penguin (3): Magua, Thor665, Ragnarokio
ReaperCharlie (2): MarchHare, ooba
mikeburnfire (1): danakillsu

Not voting (3): Channeldelibird, Ant_to_the_max, Energetic Penguin

[danakillsu]

Dana. Get this through your head: MBF is not getting lynched today.

Are you reading this game? The main reason people are attacking me is because I admitted that I'd be willing to lynch somebody else! I'm going to give it a little more time, and if nothing happens, I vote Energetic Penguin.

[ooba]

Unofficial vote count

danakillsu (4): PerigrineV, mikeburnfire, ReaperCharlie, Mastermind of Sin
Energetic Penguin (3): Magua, Thor665, Ragnarokio
ReaperCharlie (2): MarchHare, ooba
mikeburnfire (1): danakillsu

Not voting (3): Channeldelibird, Ant_to_the_max, Energetic Penguin

RC, you may have escaped today but I'll just vig you N1

Unvote.Vote: ep

[ReaperCharlie]

Vig me N1 then! You'll only look like an idiot when I flip town.

Why EP and not dana?