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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2011 11:19 pm

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I hate his play and his avatar's face,

My play will improve once I'm actually invested in the game. As for my avatar's face, well, it's classic. Would you prefer that I use one of my other stock avatars?: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mikeburnfire

Do you have any other reason to be voting Thor at the moment?

Not really. That reason enough was good enough for an early vote, but I probably would unvote if he came close to a lynch, lest I had a stronger reason. I'm actually starting to get a townish-feel. It's slight, but it's there.

I'm starting to get a couple of vibes, but nothing strong yet.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 3:41 am

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Magua wrote:I'm quite serious here. You jumping on Ragnarokio for being a "non-poster" is...well, it's just so terrible I can't even come up with a witty retort about how terrible it is.

I'm sorry, you know how forgetful I can be about that rule that the only way to be town is to sheep you. Remind me again later.

Magua wrote:MBF wagon? Do you mean Reaper? Otherwise, I have no *idea* what you mean by "MBF wagon" as there is *no* MBF wagon. Unless you meant the MBF wagon at the start of the day, in which case, I would be tempted to agree, except who was on that, let's see, animorpherv1, Thor665, ooba, Ragnarokio, and who are you voting now, Ragna...waitaminute.

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What the hell Magua? Seriously, you're going to get so confused about me calling a single vote a 'wagon' that you're going to spiral into this? One vote = wagon, now go re-read everything, take a chill pill, and reassess.

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Thor665 wrote:I'm not really feeling that Ant wagon, Magua - sorry. I actually support his desire to kill the non-posters

For that matter, there's no Ant wagon at this point either. You say you support MBF's desire to kill non-posters. How about Energetic Penguin instead of ATTM then? I'm fine with that.

Pedantic obsession about use of the word 'wagon' aside I actually said I supported Ant's desire, not MBF's. I could do an EP lynch, I don't have the town vibe from him I have for Ant. Why are you so against a Raggy lynch though? You just screamed and dismissed it, but I was willing to say why I didn't like your case.

Magua wrote:Thor. Your vote on Ragnarokio sucks and smacks *highly* of OMGUS. Don't ruin my townread on you like this.

:roll: Really, OMGUS? If that's the level of your read I don't care if you change opinions on me as you clearly still need to get a better read anyway.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 4:47 am

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I owe this game more attention than I've been giving it for the last few days.

With a view to the deadline:

a) I will not be voting for Thor today under any circumstances bar a mafia claim.
b) MoS seems like a lazy place to put one's vote. I don't think I'd want to be on a MoS deadline wagon.
c) I need to reread dana and the case against him, but two of the scummier players in the game are on that wagon so I'm kind of meh about it.

Of the people with votes right now, pretty much only Peregrine is worth lynching IMO. I'd switch to Ant or EP at this point too, and will look at Ragna seeing as there's a swing that way too.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 4:54 am

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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 5:19 am

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danakillsu wrote:@ mikeburnfire
Why would you make a point of saying you're fine with a Thor lynch? He's not the leading wagon, his wagon has been on a downward trend, and you're voting him, so I think we could probably gather you kind of want him lynched without you telling us.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 8:19 am

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Ant_to_the_max remains in the scum list. I just had that one single tell on ep - null leaning to scum.
The change in MoS brought about the RC turnaround on let's lynch MoS or MBF. MBF towered not because his wagon reached L-2 - its just the vibe I get from his posts.
- Thor's jump on Ragnarokio in 444 is all levels of scummy

a) I will not be voting for Thor today under any circumstances bar a mafia claim.

Hmm. Such a strong town read?
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 8:43 am

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ooba wrote:
a) I will not be voting for Thor today under any circumstances bar a mafia claim.

Hmm. Such a strong town read?


Yup.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:11 am

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Ant hasn't done anything worthwhile all day, which might be what other people have been picking up on. Most of his posts are small short-term reads that don't have much visible impact on his own view, or on the view of others. He pretty much just quotes some posts and says a few things on them every now and then. When he has voted, it's generally been on weak targets, he went from Thor (RVS) to MoS (Lurker) to Pere (Contentless), to Dana (Already being attacked), and then back to MoS.

When he provided reads on all his players, very few of them had any analysis at all. For the most part he just called players that looked town, town, and then called Dana (who was being attacked) scum.

So he's got zero worthwhile content, and just goes after the weakest link all the time. I skimmed over some of his other town games, couldn't find any mafia ones. It looked like he was generally more aggressive and meaningful in his posting there.

Ant is my strongest suspect right now, after reading back. I would support his lynch.

Also, Channel, I think you missed my question.


Channel: Do you have any opinions that you haven't shared?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:19 am

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Ragnarokio wrote:
Also, Channel, I think you missed my question.


Channel: Do you have any opinions that you haven't shared?


Apologies for missing that. The answer is no, although as I say I owe this game some attention as there are things I've skimmed/ignored. Can I ask why you asked that to me specifically?
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:20 am

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CD, If I FakeDayVig somebody like Thor, can I be lynch-proof too?

Also, I don't care for the wagon on Ragnar. I feel as if she is town.

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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:22 am

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mikeburnfire wrote:CD, If I FakeDayVig somebody like Thor, can I be lynch-proof too?


The action itself isn't always pro-town, but the specific one Thor did struck me as town in its timing and manner.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:23 am

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Well don't think I'll get a Thor lynch then...
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:24 am

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ebwop:
Unvote. Vote: Ant
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:29 am

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ChannelDelibird wrote:
Ragnarokio wrote:
Also, Channel, I think you missed my question.


Channel: Do you have any opinions that you haven't shared?


Apologies for missing that. The answer is no, although as I say I owe this game some attention as there are things I've skimmed/ignored. Can I ask why you asked that to me specifically?


You hadn't done much all game, but a few times you made it sound like you may have been doing something.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:32 am

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Well, I never
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 9:35 am

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looking forward to it.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 10:16 am

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OK- CDB reread:

Scummiest so far. 80% of posts are one-liners. Mostly comments. Some questions.
Total scum found in 500 posts: Me.
Case provided on, for, to or about me: 0

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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 10:19 am

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PeregrineV wrote:80% of posts are one-liners.


Succinctness is pro-town.

PeregrineV wrote:Mostly comments. Some questions.


This is fairly meaningless. Discuss more why this is bad.

PeregrineV wrote:Total scum found in 500 posts: Me.


I've expressed suspicion of Ant more than once and also said I'd happily lynch EP.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 10:28 am

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PeregrineV wrote:OK- CDB reread:

Scummiest so far. 80% of posts are one-liners. Mostly comments. Some questions.
Total scum found in 500 posts: Me.
Case provided on, for, to or about me: 0

EP re-read:
Some townish reads, some scummish reads.
Not
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 10:29 am

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Ragnarokio is doing a terrible job of defending themselves. I sense a deflection.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 11:02 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Hmm...Ragnarokio, where are you? Deadline is coming up, and you have been sitting with the same vote on Thor for almost a week now, which you placed with the reasoning "Cool." I may hate everything Thor has stood for this game, but in general I get a townie read from him, as he seems to be trying to scumhunt at least.

Most of your posts this game have been pointless one-liners, and looking back, the only real contribution you've had on this game has been to defend MarchHare. Why is that the most important thing you see in this game? There isn't anything particularly townie about MarchHare, although one could potentially make the argument that his actions are a null tell at best. Still, it's pretty much the only thing you've focused on all game, and that looks fairly suspicious.

Vote: Ragnarokio, FoS: MarchHare


@Mod: Deadline extension please?
We're finally getting somewhere productive. Also, two-week deadlines are kinda ridiculous. No one in their right minds considers that a reasonable amount of time to decide on a lynch.


1) Been busy lately, I don't vote a lot.
2) I think I've said some things this game. It's not like all my one-liners were completely off-topic, and I did say a few other things.
3) MarchHare is a pretty cool guy. If I was defending him it was probably because he was taking up so much of my attention, though I doubt anything I did could be classified as defense.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 11:24 am

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ChannelDelibird wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:80% of posts are one-liners.


Succinctness is pro-town.


Yes.
ChannelDelibird wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:Mostly comments. Some questions.


This is fairly meaningless. Discuss more why this is bad.


Looks like your trying to look like you're doing something without doing anything.
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PeregrineV wrote:Total scum found in 500 posts: Me.


I've expressed suspicion of Ant more than once and also said I'd happily lynch EP.


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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 11:25 am

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Why does my vote not moving from you mean that you're the only person I think is scum?
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 11:26 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
ChannelDelibird wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:Total scum found in 500 posts: Me.


I've expressed suspicion of Ant more than once and also said I'd happily lynch EP.


I counted votes.
Wow. I'm pretty sure I've voted thor all-throughout the game - If you're counting votes, then why not pressurize me on it?
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2011 12:05 pm

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Magua wrote:
Do you think my dayvig on ReaperCharlie is good or bad?


The reason given was bad. Followed up by a townish read seemed dumb.

Ragnarokio wrote:
Ant: What have your feelings on this game been as time progressed? (Early scumspects, interest levels, etc.)


I have been excited for this game ever since I got my pre-in for it.
Suspects have jumped around throughout. Do you want a linear list of everything from my first post? Although there are a few more people that are catching my eye now.

Ragnarokio wrote:Ant hasn't done anything worthwhile all day, which might be what other people have been picking up on. Most of his posts are small short-term reads that don't have much visible impact on his own view, or on the view of others. He pretty much just quotes some posts and says a few things on them every now and then. When he has voted, it's generally been on weak targets, he went from Thor (RVS) to MoS (Lurker) to Pere (Contentless), to Dana (Already being attacked), and then back to MoS.

When he provided reads on all his players, very few of them had any analysis at all. For the most part he just called players that looked town, town, and then called Dana (who was being attacked) scum.

So he's got zero worthwhile content, and just goes after the weakest link all the time. I skimmed over some of his other town games, couldn't find any mafia ones. It looked like he was generally more aggressive and meaningful in his posting there.


RE: "Very few of them had any analysis at all"

If you couldn't tell, I got bored at the end. And for some of the people, there really wasn't much to say. There was thought there though.

RE: "So he's got zero worthwhile content"

Matter of opinion. I asked Dana what they defined as a "one-liner". Never got an answer. Reason for it, look at his posts #1 through 10. I saw that when he was calling others out for "one-liners" he was really trying to deflect attention from himself onto others. etc. etc.

RE: "just goes after the weakest link all the time"

Same can be said about you.........................
Right? Hmmmm....

RE: "and then called Dana (who was being attacked) scum.
"
See above. You are attacking me (who is being attacked).
OH EM GEEEEEEEEEE *DIVIDED BY ZERO*

RE: "I skimmed over some of his other town games, couldn't find any mafia ones."

Correct. I have never played on the mafia faction before.

RE: "It looked like he was generally more aggressive and meaningful in his posting there."
Most of that was post D1. I seem to follow the same cycle usually. Good start, taper off at mid D1, come back D2 strong and go from there.

ooba wrote:
@Ant: I'm sure this line could have applied to me too. Why did ya add it only to ani?
"Although has posted elsewhere and not here."

ooba wrote:Wow. I'm pretty sure I've voted thor all-throughout the game - If you're counting votes, then why not pressurize me on it?


I don't like these posts at all. They seem like they are trying to derail possible wagons by attacking the credibility of the arguments in a very crappy way. Maybe it was because they were not making a case on you ooba? Why are you getting so defensive about it?
UNVOTE:
I have to look at these last posts some more.
Apologies for falling off the face of the earth.
I'M BACK BABY FOR A LIMITED TIME*!

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