MrBuddyLee wrote:@AGar, Primate and LlamaFluff:
If you were scumpartners with vez in this game, would you advise him to claim vanilla town right off the bat?
No, claiming out the gate is the worst move for scum, restricts everything.
@vezok - You are almost right about that game. Ani I was killing because I was going to regardless of my alignment, he is completely insufferable with zero respect for the game, the mods or the other players, and should just stick to mish mash and those other forums. You were defended because it brought me the most town cred, and you hit the major town tell of mine which let me get at arms with people that tend to be able to read me making me look much better in the mid-late game range. Yes I plan for day four/five during the first few pages as scum, would have worked if it wasnt for ultra-random cop investigating me at the same time I had the doc protecting me and everyone else practically eating out of my hand [/rant]
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I really dont like his last post on vezok where he seems to lean to the lynch of him based on a mixture of policy (lol no), vezok doing other scummy actions (like what?) and not being able to trust him.
The VT role has to be one of the most annoying buggers out there for scum due to why so many people hate it for whatever reason. Its because its powerless. Look, VT has to be the best role to clear because it starts boxing in scum, as early as day one its going to confine them more and more if they can start getting called town because they cant get rid of them without worrying about investigators, masons making it late, etc etc. There are positions where a VT claim is nearly as trustable as a cleared, while this isnt one, it does apply a couple of the weaker aspects of the entire tell, and im willing to give vezok a town read for what he did here. Is he a good player, not really, but again the power of VT. Vezok town gets a town read on someone and sheeps the crap out of them. Now scum have to worry about players that are essentially double voters, more screws down on them. VT is powerful, vezok claimed VT, there is no good reason to lynch him past policy, we just keep him in check for the remainder of the game and that really is going to work better in the long run.
No clue how many times I need to continue to say this, but vezok is town, even with that garbled claim which makes it even more likely to me. You get your PM, and what sticks out to you more? Lack of role name and actual role, or the odd win condition? I vote A.
