Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[Faraday]

doesn't vote quadz***

[Faraday]

don't call my town tells crap. they're fucking legit as a heart attack.

[Seraphim]

deadline is in approximately a week at the current rate of battery power loss BTW.

[Faraday]

also realistic chance of a vp wagon. stop paying lip service. GOGOGOGO QUADSRANGER

[Nicki Minaj]

For the record, that was cross-posted with the last two pages, so if someone has claimed scum since then, I didn't notice.

@Faraday: okay, so let's say mothrax was scum. How would he have reacted differently to AGM having decided he was the best policy lynch in the game on D1, based on his flaking due to his mother's breast cancer? Would he have been resigned to his lynch?

Also, please explain Katsuki-obvtown to me as though I were really, really stupid. Maybe then, I'd get it. Right now,

I don't see it.

Please give actual

arguments

for why Katsuki is so blindingly obvtown. I can't read Katsuki. Show me the light.

Explain to me the difference between MoI-scum and his play here, while you're at it. Give specific examples. I'm pretty sure I REMEMBER you saying MoI is impossible to read.

Yes, I know you hate ever explaining anything. But please. I

want

words. I won't figure it out if you just call them "obvtown." They will help me come to an informed opinion on Katsuki, MoI, and

you

.

Now I'm really off.

[Faraday]

i don't wanna do that

[Faraday]

you're just asking me questions to be mean.

[AlmasterGM]

Do I look like a comedian? I am NOT fencesitting. You fucked up the delivery. If you had let mothrax come out normally, play like he normally would, allow some time for reads, you might have gotten a lynch. But now all of his posts, at least today, have that specter of YOUR POLICY LYNCH ABILITY on them.

Delivery doesn't have SHIT to do with it in this case. You either have a town read or a scumread on mothrax. You're saying you have a scumread on him, but you don't want to lynch him because I might be a lyncher.

I might be a lyncher.

That is a terrible argument.

As far as the "specter" goes, it's called pressure to perform well. If he posts well, he lives. If he posts poorly or doesn't post, he dies. I don't see why this is bad.

town or scum, he's not going to post a lot, because he's worried it will be misconstrued as scummy and he will be run up for it.

…what? Why would he be lynched if he posts lots of good, townie posts? This makes no sense. If anything, this lynch hanging over his head is better because it doesn't allow him to coast and make HALF-ASSED posts and/or NOT post at all, which is what he would've done 100% and it's what he's TRYING to do now, but I'm not going to let him.

mothrax looks town because of how you fucked up that delivery

First, not what you said before - you just said you would lynch him if it wasn't for the "me being a lyncher" thing. Since when do we lynch town? Second, he doesn't look town - he looks like scum who is mad he got N0 vigged.

and the fact that you're continued to push it looks like you're a lyncher who is either ignorant of your effect on mothrax's posting or you're well aware and now you're trying to construe it as scummy. It's plain and clear for the entire town to see.

LOL LYNCHER

and now you're calling me scum because I'm calling you out on what is, effectively, tunneling. I have to admit, you're pretty gutsy.

No, I'm calling you scum for not lynching mothrax on the grounds that I am a lyncher.

[Faraday]

LOL gut gut gut are my reasons hold on.

[Seraphim]

You either have a town read or a scumread on mothrax. You're saying you have a scumread on him

WTF that's not what I said. I've been saying that mothrax is town.

As far as the "specter" goes, it's called pressure to perform well. If he posts well, he lives. If he posts poorly or doesn't post, he dies. I don't see why this is bad.

This is NOT what you've been advertising. You've been saying LYNCH HIM LYNCH HIM LYNCH HIM LOOK AT HIS POSTING LYNCH HIM LYNCH HIM. I get the feeling you'd be saying this regardless of how good his posting actually is.

You entire last post is one giant



You are shooting your credibility to hell.

I'm saying lynching mothrax is a bad idea because A. it's impossible to get an accurate read on him and B. from what I can read he's town.

[Seraphim]

Here's an example of me freaking out as town:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =3&t=14737

I'm sure I'll find more.

[singersigner]

Seraphim, can you explain your town read on Mothrax's four posts again?

[Seraphim]

You can say all you want, the angry PM looks town to me. His posting looks exactly how I would expect Mothrax to act in a situation like that. No, it's not useful, but it's fairly town-looking.

It's mostly gut.

[Faraday]

LOL QUOTE STRIPS TO ANNOY

For the record, that was cross-posted with the last two pages, so if someone has claimed scum since then, I didn't notice.

quadz did. vote!

@Faraday: okay, so let's say mothrax was scum. How would he have reacted differently to AGM having decided he was the best policy lynch in the game on D1, based on his flaking due to his mother's breast cancer? Would he have been resigned to his lynch?

he'd not pm as scum.

Also, please explain Katsuki-obvtown to me as though I were really, really stupid. Maybe then, I'd get it. Right now,

I don't see it.

Please give actual

arguments

for why Katsuki is so blindingly obvtown. I can't read Katsuki. Show me the light.

JUST SHEEP ME FOR FUCK SAKE. idk it's all gut. you fucking know i'm not going to be able to explain anyway so why boher asking? i hate you

Explain to me the difference between MoI-scum and his play here, while you're at it. Give specific examples. I'm pretty sure I REMEMBER you saying MoI is impossible to read.

well actually i'm pretty sure i always read him as scum. this time it just makes him obvtownie?

Yes, I know you hate ever explaining anything. But please. I

want

words. I won't figure it out if you just call them "obvtown." They will help me come to an informed opinion on Katsuki, MoI, and

you

.

[Seraphim]

Also, take this for what it's worth, I have a feeling that if mothrax were scum...assuming there's daytalk which I bet there is because doesn't Vi usually use daytalk in her games?...mothrax would be coached a lot better than what's happening now.

[singersigner]

Here's an example of me freaking out as town:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =3&t=14737

I'm sure I'll find more.

You've "freaked out" as scum, too. I'm not sure why you think the way you react as both, is the same way other people react as either. For example, I've reacted very calmly in situations where I am town, and in fact, I advocate not being afraid to die early enough in the game where it doesn't matter. There are very few instances where I would encourage "freaking out."

Preview Edit:
Yeah, being coached to shut the fuck up, I bet.

[Nicki Minaj]

JUST SHEEP ME FOR FUCK SAKE. idk it's all gut. you fucking know i'm not going to be able to explain anyway so why boher asking? i hate you

I HATE YOU MORE!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! *bangs head against a wall until I lose all my braincells*

Oh, bullshit. You're capable of explaining yourself in a hydra QT. Explain it. E-X-P-L-A-I-N it. I don't care if it takes you five fucking hours to write a paragraph. There is no way you cannot articulate your own thought processes on such a rudimentary level that you cannot say, "Katsuki made this post that felt sincere."

[Faraday]

why are you so fucking worried about people finding mothrax town. idgaf we're not lynching him.

[Faraday]

JUST SHEEP ME FOR FUCK SAKE. idk it's all gut. you fucking know i'm not going to be able to explain anyway so why boher asking? i hate you

I HATE YOU MORE!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! *bangs head against a wall until I lose all my braincells*

Oh, bullshit. You're capable of explaining yourself in a hydra QT. Explain it. E-X-P-L-A-I-N it. I don't care if it takes you five fucking hours to write a paragraph. There is no way you cannot articulate your own thought processes on such a rudimentary level that you cannot say, "Katsuki made this post that felt sincere."

STOP REVEALING MY SECRETS FFS.

[Seraphim]

That's a great short-term strategy but a terrible long-term one.

And I'm sure the PM was coached too.

Right.

Totally.

Maybe freak out wasn't the right word. I'm looking for some sort of reaction, something, anything, to show that he's under pressure rather than pushing DDD's lynch like it's another ordinary day.

I'm going to stop posting for a while and let the topic air out.

[Faraday]

YOU'LL JUST FUCKING ASK WHY IS IT SINCERE COS YOU WANT WORDS WORDS WORDS FROM ME.

[Faraday]

>_> i'll do it tomorrow cos

you

asked i guess.

[Gammagooey]

If I ask will you do it now?
(you should totally do it now)

[singersigner]

why are you so fucking worried about people finding mothrax town. idgaf we're not lynching him.

Why AREN'T you worried about people finding Mothrax town? We're clearly not lynching him today, but why do you think that matters? People have a town read on him based off of NOTHING. Seraphim's giving me the impression that he's seen this oh-so townie PM, but I have yet to see it in this thread. This is beyond game-related meta and I'm pissed off that people seem to be INSISTING that Mothrax is town based off a non-meta, non-game-related, non-tell-of-a-PM.

Vi: I'd like to see the PM posted publicly in-thread please.

If we are going to make this game related, make it game related.

[Faraday]

HELLO HELLO BABY YOU CALLED? I CAN'T HEAR A THING.