Fall of the Matrix: Game Over!

GummyBear · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2011 10:31 pm

Ok, I've actually read the role PM now.

Caught up in one game, this one's absolute priority tomorrow.

You can thank quadz for not telling me the game started.

-Singer

AGar · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2011 10:39 pm

BrianMcQueso wrote:
AGar wrote:Get over it. Grow thicker skin. You're still skirting the point that you attack me for insinuating people should burn night actions on Vezok when in fact I never said anything of the like.

I'm attacking you because you defend Vezok, and attack anyone who suspects him. I don't know how many times you want me to say that.

Now, I'll admit I misinterpreted you when you said "the only thing that could change my mind is a night action". You were referring to the nonexistent Night 0, and I thought you were suggesting that a cop should investigate Vezok tonight. But you still defend Vezok with a passion despite calling him a village idiot.

You want to talk about skirting points? Go read my post #242. I'll even link it for you, for your convenience. Answer my questions. Explain yourself.

I'm not here to teach players how to play well. There are other avenues for that. I'm here to lynch the scumbags I find, and not charge headlong into a lynch on town. There are players here admitting that he is more likely to be town, but lynching him for one reason or another.

And no, I'm not leveling attacks at anyone who suspects him. I may be saying you guys are lacking in a high intelligence level, but I've actually only called 2 people attacking him as scumbags. ABR is also very likely, so make it 3.

Albert B. Rampage wrote:But...Surye....he's always like this. Always has an incredibly scummy plan, even when he's town. You have to catch him later in the game with his connections to scum.

"Don't lynch my buddy yet, I don't want him dead on D1!"

mozamis · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2011 10:52 pm

@Surye -there is no Vez "situation". A pseudo problem has been created by OTHER PEOPLE. Vez claimed. Cool. Its everyone elses reactions that is the issue.
Apologies if that is what you mean by "Vez situation".

Yosarian2 · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 8:51 am

Surye wrote:
But honestly, if it's that bad of a plan, okay.

It is a bad plan.

What's worse, it's the kind of bad plan that, if you get enough people talking about it, is likely to help the scum find the cop. You suggesting that plan is potentially a rolefishy move on your part.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 8:54 am

AGar wrote:"Don't lynch my buddy yet, I don't want him dead on D1!"

If I didn't want you to lynch him, I would not bring him up at all. See my article "How to focus on mafia and get them lynched"

Yosarian2 · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 9:07 am

mozamis wrote:@Surye -there is no Vez "situation". A pseudo problem has been created by OTHER PEOPLE. Vez claimed. Cool. Its everyone elses reactions that is the issue.
Apologies if that is what you mean by "Vez situation".

?

He. Claimed. Vanilla.

When someone claims vanilla, generally speaking,, you lynch them, unless you don't want the town to win. Also, pro-town people shouldn't ever claim vanilla, only scum should ever consider doing that kind of thing, because if a pro-town person claims vanilla it hurts his win condition for no reason.

I'm confused about why you're calling that a problem "created by other people" and not by Vez.

Mastermind of Sin · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:32 am

By request, Cogito Ergo Sum replaces mozamis

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:34 am

Vote: Furcolow

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:36 am

Unvote, vote: Surye

Furcolow · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:36 am

For what reason are you voting me? I have not been active in this game whatsoever, and just promised to dedicate to reading the game.

EBWOP: oh, ok, carry on

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:38 am

SUFFER NOT THE LURKER TO LIVE.

Surye · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:39 am

Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:SUFFER NOT THE LURKER TO LIVE.

Wait, you're calling me a lurker? Really?

SensFan · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:40 am

Furcolow wrote:For what reason are you voting me? I have not been active in this game whatsoever, and just promised to dedicate to reading the game.

You claim you've not been active, but that's a lie. You've been purposefully refraining from posting in the thread.

Unvote, Vote: Furcolow

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:42 am

Surye wrote:
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:SUFFER NOT THE LURKER TO LIVE.

Wait, you're calling me a lurker? Really?

CONFESS.

(Also: no, I'm not.)

Furcolow · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:44 am

Not true. I've been busy.

Porochaz · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:48 am

unvote vote furcolow

SensFan · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:50 am

Furcolow wrote:Not true. I've been busy.

Bull. Shit.

There have been 365 posts in this thread. You have 4 of them, one of which is a /confirm. Thus, fair to say your posting has been extremely sparse. And yet, let's look at the timing of your non-/confirm posts.
1. This post comes less than 5 hours and 8 posts after Poro mentioned your name pursuant to replacement.
2. This post comes 2 minutes and immediately after CES voted you.
3. This post comes 4 minutes and 2 posts after I vote you and accuse you of active lurking.

So yes, your claim is bullshit. None of the posts contain any inkling of content, so it wasn't even just suspicious timing that you happened to be posting at the time. I just don't buy that you've posted absolutely no content, but showed up 3 times very soon after being mentioned.

SensFan · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 10:51 am

Basically, what Poro just posted x3.

Toon Fighter · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:17 am

I just noticed this new attack on Furcolow, and I'm trying to be impartial, but there are evidence that may support his innocence.

1) As you may notice if you search for posts made by him, he didn't post anything* between May 1 and May 6. He may have been V/LA BUT
1b) He never said he'd be V/LA at any point of this game*, supporting the active lurking theory
2) He did show up just in time to answer a vote on him, and he had only made 3 posts before that one

As I am not getting anything satisfactory out of DeathNote (or any more scummy reads) I shall

unvote

and

vote: Furcolow

. Let's see how you act with a little more pressure on you. I want answers.

* He didn't post in any of the games he is playing in, and there are several, and he never said he'd be V/LA in any of them. Interpret that as you may. And yes, I know discussion of other games is frowned upon, but I just had to mention these facts.

SensFan · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:22 am

Toon Fighter wrote:I just noticed this new attack on Furcolow, and I'm trying to be impartial, but there are evidence that may support his innocence.

1) As you may notice if you search for posts made by him, he didn't post anything* between May 1 and May 6. He may have been V/LA BUT
1b) He never said he'd be V/LA at any point of this game*, supporting the active lurking theory
2) He did show up just in time to answer a vote on him, and he had only made 3 posts before that one

As I am not getting anything satisfactory out of DeathNote (or any more scummy reads) I shall
unvote
and
vote: Furcolow
. Let's see how you act with a little more pressure on you. I want answers.

* He didn't post in any of the games he is playing in, and there are several, and he never said he'd be V/LA in any of them. Interpret that as you may. And yes, I know discussion of other games is frowned upon, but I just had to mention these facts.

Yes or no answer only to this question:
Do you think it's a coincidence that his only 3 posts are, respectively, 5 hours, 2 minutes and 4 minutes after being mentioned/voted by someone else?

Toon Fighter · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:24 am

SensFan · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:26 am

In that case, what's the relevance to your point that he wasn't posting, such that it "may support his innocence"?

Toon Fighter · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:29 am

He may have not posted in the last few days because he was V/LA, and only just came back, saw the attacks at him and posted. I don't believe it is a coincidence, but I can't rule out that explanation

BrianMcQueso · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:31 am

@Agar Thank you for addressing my questions. I'm still weary of your defense of Vezok, and I've still got my eye on you.

That being said, I think I'd like to light a fire under Furcolow and see if we can squeeze some contribution out of him. Whether the absence is legitimate or lurking, he needs to start talking.

unvote AGar, vote Furcolow

SensFan · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2011 11:34 am

Toon Fighter wrote:He may have not posted in the last few days because he was V/LA, and only just came back, saw the attacks at him and posted. I don't believe it is a coincidence, but I can't rule out that explanation

Wait a second. You think it's at all likely that he:
*Showed up for the first time 8 posts and 5 hours after being called out for replacement

(possible)

AND

*Then left, showing up 2 minutes after being voted, supplying still no content

(unlikely)

AND

*Stuck around for 10 minutes, still providing absolutely nothing, and made another empty post 4 minutes after being voted

(implausible)