Chuck Season 1 - GAME OVER

[Ragnarokio]

ALRIGHT DANA

I still think that your case on MarchHare is invalid, but I can understand where you're coming from a little now, and you don't seem so scummy anymore, so I'm going to drop this one before it gets needlessly convoluted.

Backtracking, eh?

Nope.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm pretty sure he only calls for alliances when he's town.

Well, I'm town, so... I guess yes?

[Ant_to_the_max]

Today was Reading Day at my Uni...so read I did.

danakillsu

: Leaning scum
#119 Twists MarchHare's words around
#217 Another twisting of words
#258 You know...what is your def on one-liners? I honestly get the feeling that you are trying to call people out on things to divert attention away from yourself.

Channeldelibird

: Leaning town
Pretty much all of his posts give a positive vib

PerigrineV

: Null
Tries to come off as edgy/witty
Although, he does unvote Thor at L-1 which imo is a townie thing,
but all other non-sheeping cases made by him are crap so far.

Mastermind of Sin

: Null
#93 Almost 100 pages in and has to get his "random" vote in.
In quotes because I believe he is keeping his cards close.
I guess we are not worth his time

Thor665

: Town
I am not afraid to say it. He has a point. He has been pulling his weight around here.
And I am getting the same vib from him as before.

mikeburnfire

: Leaning town (for the most part...I think :S)
I hopped on his wagon to get a respons, and I got one.
I liked it, and thought it was town.
But...that is it from him >_>
He is town or very slick scum.

Ragnarokio

: Gut says town
From her posts, she reminds me of someone else.
Her confusion with the Thor/Hair argument is null imo

Energetic Penguin

: Leaning town
Looks town enough to me so far.

ReaperCharlie

: Null...leaning town
A lot of his posts can be considered fluff, but they do get descussion going in the right direction.
Although, I will say this. Why I echoed Thor's question to him is because I thought I came across something that poked me. I wanted to bring it up sooner, but there was the impending daykill and I couldn't think of a good way to throw it out there without causing a scene. Obviously I was wrong about something. (who knew!?)

ooba

: Null
Not much to go on imo

animorpherv1

: Null
Again, not much to go on.
Although has posted elsewhere and not here.

MarchHare

: Town
Same feeling here as I get with Thor.
Short and sweat, but I feel the motivation behind his posts.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: danakillsu

whew, glad I got that out of the way.
*drinks juice*

[MarchHare]

Okay, RC, I'll play along on the condition that I may backstab you when it tickles my fancy.

[danakillsu]

I'm currently Iso'ing people and narrowing down my scumspects.

Dana, could you share with us your feelings on MarchHare as the game progressed?

I have no idea > crazy active lurker > intentional content-less poster > scum pretending not to understand any of my points on him. Or at the very least scum not trying to understand my points on him.

I don't really get this, Marchhare's posts may be short but there's definitely content in them.

I honestly can't think of a better way to put it. It's kinda like active lurking except in a way that blatantly says he doesn't care about the town's chances of winning based on the amount of work he puts into his posts. I was trying to condense that a bit.

@ Ant_to_the_max
The way you spell stuff in that post makes me think it's not juice you're drinking. I appreciate your linking of my posts, but would like to see you try to prove your points on me.

ALRIGHT DANA

I still think that your case on MarchHare is invalid, but I can understand where you're coming from a little now, and you don't seem so scummy anymore, so I'm going to drop this one before it gets needlessly convoluted.

Backtracking, eh?

Lol. Must remind you of yourself with Mastermind of Sin, eh?

[mikeburnfire]

It's not the weekend so I'm not really paying attention but I'm posting this to avoid any sort of prod. I keep skimming the thread, but get put off by fluff, then wander off.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Mastermind of Sin

: Null
#93 Almost 100 pages in and has to get his "random" vote in.
In quotes because I believe he is keeping his cards close.
I guess we are not worth his time

If there is one thing that is a pet peeve of mine, it's people reading something into a random vote as if it was anything but a random vote. Don't make me hate you forever.

[mikeburnfire]

A random vote that is certifiably random is not really helpful.

[Mastermind of Sin]

That's why it's a random vote...they aren't supposed to be helpful, or they wouldn't be random.

[ReaperCharlie]

Okay, RC, I'll play along on the condition that I may backstab you when it tickles my fancy.

You may. That is the point of an Alliance, isn't it? To backstab each other?


MoS, can you please read the thread and give us some reads? Your posts have been generally contentless thus far.


Ant's #302 was cool and pro-town. You are invited to the Alliance. Please confirm or deny your membership in your next post.

[ReaperCharlie]

Alliance Status:

Current members:

ReaperCharlie
MarchHare

Current rules:

No voting any other Alliance members
Vote how the Alliance tells you to vote

[Energetic Penguin]

Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?

@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?

[Energetic Penguin]

HEY RC, any way I can join this alliance?

[Thor665]

If there is one thing that is a pet peeve of mine, it's people reading something into a random vote as if it was anything but a random vote. Don't make me hate you forever.

I am your pet peeve personified - hate away.
My pet peeve is people suggesting any votes in this game somehow aren't evidence. Also - lack of votes is evidence.

@RC - The Town Alliance looks like one scum, and one questionable. I'm out.

@MBF - Fluff accusations after MoS managed to (continue) to slide by for claiming 'lol, fluff'? Meh. How about you vote dana or MarchHare - or do you have townreads there?

[danakillsu]

Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?

@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?

Not concerned with him? I haven't attacked him or anything, but I certainly haven't said I'm not concerned with him at all. Active lurking is fairly common on this site, so you can't necessarily attack all the active lurkers in the game at the same time. It's not easy to really put pressure on a bunch of people at once, so I've really been concentrating on the scummier active lurker MarchHare.

[Energetic Penguin]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

[Mastermind of Sin]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

I didn't say anything about fluff...

[Mastermind of Sin]

Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?

@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?

I don't generally bother to read the thread before making a random vote. What would be the point in that?

[Energetic Penguin]

but even after your random vote you have nothing relevant to say. This is pretty close,

Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.

This.

[danakillsu]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

Pfffff. I like how you didn't bother to respond to what I actually said and just drew the conclusions I knew you were going for anyway. You have nothing there but a presupposition.
I disagree that MarchHare is really looking for scum. He is not trying any more than MoS, he's just better at making it look good. Even after I said that his one-line posts were not helping anything, he continued to make them. How can you call that pro-town? March is scummier for reasons I have already stated. He actually has enough content in his posts to peg him as likely scum, whereas MoS just looks like someone that does that sort of thing all the time.

[ReaperCharlie]

@RC - The Town Alliance looks like one scum, and one questionable. I'm out.

That's the entire point. There are supposed to be players of mixed levels of perceived town-ness, so that everyone keeps a healthy level of suspicion.

Also, more members = stronger town, in every single game I've played. Last game I ran an alliance in (usurped, actually, after I showed the leader to be scum and he was daykilled by a third-party) was a large, and we got a 9-1 endgame in which I correctly pegged the final scum out of 10 players, for the glorious win.

If you are town, join. You won't regret it. If you are scum, you should still join, because it increases my chances of winning!

[Energetic Penguin]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

Pfffff. I like how you didn't bother to respond to what I actually said and just drew the conclusions I knew you were going for anyway. You have nothing there but a presupposition.
I disagree that MarchHare is really looking for scum. He is not trying any more than MoS, he's just better at making it look good. Even after I said that his one-line posts were not helping anything, he continued to make them. How can you call that pro-town? March is scummier for reasons I have already stated. He actually has enough content in his posts to peg him as likely scum, whereas MoS just looks like someone that does that sort of thing all the time.

You're attacking him for playstyle reasons. There's nothing inherently scummy about one line posts. Just because you tell him its scummy does not make it so. March siad the MBF wagon was terribad. So other than him derailing a wagon and making 1-line posts (which isn't scummy) what is this content that incriminates him?

@RC: you didnt answer me. Can I join the alliance?

[Mastermind of Sin]

but even after your random vote you have nothing relevant to say. This is pretty close,

Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.

This.

When I see something worth commenting on I will.

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh, MoS...


@EP: No. Whoever asks to join the Alliance is auto-denied. But why do you want to join the Alliance?
Please wax eloquent on this, I will not accept an answer like: "*shrug* I thought it would be cool"

[danakillsu]

but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?

I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.

Pfffff. I like how you didn't bother to respond to what I actually said and just drew the conclusions I knew you were going for anyway. You have nothing there but a presupposition.
I disagree that MarchHare is really looking for scum. He is not trying any more than MoS, he's just better at making it look good. Even after I said that his one-line posts were not helping anything, he continued to make them. How can you call that pro-town? March is scummier for reasons I have already stated. He actually has enough content in his posts to peg him as likely scum, whereas MoS just looks like someone that does that sort of thing all the time.

You're attacking him for playstyle reasons. There's nothing inherently scummy about one line posts. Just because you tell him its scummy does not make it so. March siad the MBF wagon was terribad. So other than him derailing a wagon and making 1-line posts (which isn't scummy) what is this content that incriminates him?

@RC: you didnt answer me. Can I join the alliance?

I can't even describe how bad this post is. On the other hand, despite the fact that you can go back and read what I have posted about MarchHare, thinking about it more has changed my mind. There probably are better people to vote for right now and not having to defend my arguments against misrep would have helped me realize that sooner.

unvote

Time to shop for a different scum candidate, since this guy's response to pressure apparently convinced no one but me.