Battle for Olympus - Game Over!

[chesskid3]

If AV is scum.......direct AV's shot as if he's town

FAIL

OOBA JUST CLAIMED SCUM YO BY INADVERTENTLY CLAIMING THAT AV WAS NOT ON HIS SCUMTEAM AND THUS IN HIS MIND TOWN

ONLY WAY HE WOULD MAKE THIS MISTAKE

[Shadow Dancer]

To make it clear again: There is basically no leeway for AV being town, and Iec is almost surely saying the truth. So I don't even want to try to unerstand your mumbling about two scum teams and whatnot in #907.

Are you trying to be to Iece what Agar was to you? To reiterate, Iece is one of my strongest town reads. However, if AV is town, he should shoot Iece:
- Iece uses alignment super on AV
- Supers cannot be disrupted by other powers
- Therefore only two possible explanations remain - AV is scum (or) Iece is lying scum
- Town AV shooting anybody else doesn't make sense ..

edit: I think you can guess why he's sure he was not JK'd. I don't see a reasons as to why Dekes should claim ..

Yes, I am kind of Iec's Agar right now. Finally you got it. Thank you.

[LordChronos]

I got an idea


AV shoots someone like Chronopie

if they dont die
we lynch AV + another lynch candidate
if AV flips town then that person he tried to shoot is conftown
if AV flips scum and the person he shot no die, we lycnh them tomorrow or osmething

I'm sorry, why does AV flipping scum = whoever he tries to shoot being scum/3rd party? That assumption requires that he is lying about his role and that he makes sure to use it on a scumpartner, both of which seem like fairly large assumptions.

@SD

Stop with the rolefishing. It's fairly clear why Dekes says your jailkeep failed.

[chesskid3]

uh no
but he shoots someone WE
WERE
GOING
TO
LYNCH
ANYWAY

SO WHEN AV "SHOOTS" THEM AND FLIPS SCUM AND THEY DONT DIE
IT'S NULL FOR THAT OTHER PERSON
BUT WE WEERE GOING TO SHOOT THEM ANYWAY

THANKS FOR TRYING, OBVSCUm

OH AND HEY LOOK CALLING SOMEONE OUT FOR ROLEFISHING

LOLOLOLOLOL SCUM DO THAT ALL THE TIME BEcAUSE ITS FREE TOWNPOINTS

WHEN THE FFFF ARE PEOPEL GIONG TO WIES UP TO LC SCUM

[Shadow Dancer]

But AV is lyning scum anyway, so I doubt he has his power or will allow town to direct it anywhere if he really has a kill, so that whole discussion is pointless.
Nontheless I want him to use his super and claim in his next post.

[ooba]

If AV is scum.......direct AV's shot as if he's town

FAIL

OOBA JUST CLAIMED SCUM YO BY INADVERTENTLY CLAIMING THAT AV WAS NOT ON HIS SCUMTEAM AND THUS IN HIS MIND TOWN

ONLY WAY HE WOULD MAKE THIS MISTAKE

What mistake is that?
If scum is scum and has Strategic assault as advertised, then
- There are two scum teams (since a super just useful on one-SK seems underpowered)
- He'll be trying to shoot a person from the opposite scum team with the super
What I can give are suggestions in this case. Whether he\his scum team chooses to use them will tell town a lot about AV's partners if he's scum.

[chesskid3]

>YOU BELIEVE HIS CLAIM 100% BECAUSE HE WASNT ON YOURSCUMTEAM

ITS TOO LATE OOBA
TOO LATE

[Shadow Dancer]

I got an idea


AV shoots someone like Chronopie

if they dont die
we lynch AV + another lynch candidate
if AV flips town then that person he tried to shoot is conftown
if AV flips scum and the person he shot no die, we lycnh them tomorrow or osmething

I'm sorry, why does AV flipping scum = whoever he tries to shoot being scum/3rd party? That assumption requires that he is lying about his role and that he makes sure to use it on a scumpartner, both of which seem like fairly large assumptions.

@SD

Stop with the rolefishing. It's fairly clear why Dekes says your jailkeep failed.

No it is not. If he has a result he does not need to claim it. But he could claim that he has confirmation that his normal went through.

[ooba]

>YOU BELIEVE HIS CLAIM 100% BECAUSE HE WASNT ON YOURSCUMTEAM

ITS TOO LATE OOBA
TOO LATE

I never believed his claim 100%..

Well
- If he is town, he should target you (Iece) since you've claimed a Super alignment check - which does not leave room for other explanations
- If he is scum and has the ability as advertised, then that means two scum teams, so he should shoot at the person who has best chance of being on the other team
- If he is scum and does not have the ability, he should at least tell us so that we can move on to Lynch2 discussion

[ooba]

No it is not. If he has a result he does not need to claim it. But he could claim that he has confirmation that his normal went through.

I know for a fact I wasn't jailed last night.

Because I know I wasn't.

[chesskid3]

meeeeeeeeeeep i missed that

[Chronopie]

On "Grace".

It's my Normal, and the effect is obvious.

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I know who I aimed it at, but the effect appears to have been shifted by 3 slots downwards.

Vote Count

AurorusVox [1]

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Iecerint

Not Voting [15]

- Chronopie, AurorusVox, AGar, Shadow Dancer,

Iecerint

, ooba, Dekes, Gemini, AlmasterGM, MagnaofIllusion, Axelrod, gandalf5166, quadz08, mothrax, LordChronos, chesskid3

With 16 alive in HELLFIRE, it takes

9

7 to lynch. Deadline is Monday, May 16th, 2011, 9:00PM PST.

@Charon: I assume this VC is correct?

[Charon]

No, its not correct.
Goddammit.

edit: Previous votecount has been fixed. Sorry 'bout that.

[Chronopie]

Okay, so with the VC fix, it appears my ability was NOT shifted. Good to know.

[chesskid3]

............
who did you make a double voter

[MagnaofIllusion]

............
who did you make a double voter

Based on his comments about 3 spots down - AV ...

[chesskid3]

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[chesskid3]

why the fuck would you do that

[Dekes]

It's AGar.

[Dekes]

AV needs to come in here and claim scum again, so we can move forward with Lynch B.

[Shadow Dancer]

Dekes, do you have information that confirms to you in some way that your normal power wasn't blocked? Yes or no?

[Iecerint]

1. Did Chrono just claim scum?

2. How are Dekes and SD interpreting one another's claims? I would have inferred a more dramatic fight between them.

3. Is AGar posting on Dekes...? I'm very confused.

4. I don't understand CK's tell on ooba. I do think ooba may be scum -- namely, he's not really doing the kind of coalition-building I see him do when he's town -- but the tell is...assuming oobaScum AVtown? AKA Something literally impossible?*

* -- Unless someone used a mass-target-fail super ability that was active DURING D2, which is bogus.

[Chronopie]

The VC showed Iecerint (#7) as having two votes, whereas it was supposed to be AGar (#4), thus I thought that it had been shifted. But With the fix, it appears I wasn't shifted, thus AGar is (for today) a double voter.

@MoI: *3 slots down, not 3rd slot*

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@Iecerint:

1. No, there was some confusion over who I made DVer.

3. Dekes was pointing out that AGar was the DVer, in relation to CK's #939

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@Chesskid: And that basic reading comprehension failure is precisely why I ignore what you post.

[quadz08]

ok. So lemme get this straight.

Dekes made AGar a doublevoter.

Even more confusingly, Iece performed a sanity-confirmed, unblockable-by-normal-powers investigation on AV and got "Not Greek."
Making things crazier, AV claimed Athena, who has a one-shot vig superpower that doesn't work on Greeks.

Eek.

The plan is to have AV shoot someone. If the shot fails, we lynch him. If he flips scum, yay us! If he flips Athena, person he shot is confGreek (not conftown, though.)
Even if the shot is successful, we should still lynch him. Because he could just be scum with a daykill who hit the other scumteam.

Really, this means AV dies today, no matter what. I still haven't had a chance to go look over ISOs to see who I want to be my second lynch. I've been busy failing exams and such.

[Chronopie]

Dekes

Chronopie made AGar a doublevoter.

ftfy.

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AV is obviously Lynch Choice #1. After he 'Uses' his Super.

Does anyone else have any investigations and/or other NA's/results that they wish to reveal?