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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:01 pm

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Quadz, if there are nonspecific reasons for AGM *per se* to forego nameclaiming, specify as much.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:01 pm

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oh also

gandalf you're a fucking toolbag
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:03 pm

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Well, forget it, then. That's as informative a response as any.

One moment, folks...
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:04 pm

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uh oh
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:05 pm

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wait

Charon wrote:There has been a slight change in the RuleSet, just to clarify the game a bit:
(Strikethrough is /out, italic is /in.)

Rules wrote:
SIX: GAME SPECIFIC RULES

III)
The Greek Pantheon is considered the "town".
All town-aligned players are part of the Greek Pantheon, but not all members of the Greek Pantheon may be town-aligned.
The "mafia" faction is compromised of a foreign Gods and/or Goddesses. All players are either Gods or Goddesses.

Votecount coming later on.

p.s. I meant to be here yesterday, but Good Friday and all. :igmeou:


so how the fuck do we know who is town and who isn't?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:11 pm

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Town -- 100% Greeks
Mafia -- 100% Not Greeks
3rd Party -- Could be anything

That is how you translate that.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:13 pm

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Hold the nameclaim for the moment if that leads you to change your mind. I'm waiting on Andy.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:14 pm

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Do, however, comment on whether that information *would* have been sufficient for you to produce a nameclaim had I not just asked you to wait.
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:15 pm

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OK, I've heard from Andy.

AGM, I suggest you nameclaim. Last chance.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:16 pm

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Nope.

LAY IT ON ME, BIATCH.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:17 pm

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(Also, it looks like your find indicates that there aren't 2 mafia factions sooo /fail on my part. Every large I've been in since forever has had 2 scumteams.)
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:27 pm

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oh fml
Show
Town 8/4
Mafia 2/3
3rd Party 0/0

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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:29 pm

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oh, so it's actually a good thing I didn't claim, then?

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How about you explain yourself?
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:30 pm

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I also vote that we use our secondary lynch on mothrax.

trim the fat.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:37 pm

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CHRONOPIE AND CHRONOS ARE FOR LYNCHIN WOOOOOOO

>more of this plz
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:38 pm

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Very well.
I noticed something in the midst of writing this, though...soooo...well, you'll see.

Claim: Dionysus, Greek God of Wine and Ecstasy
. Text color is lavender.

My abilities are:

Normal: Ecstasy -- I target someone at night and get their alignment (though that's not *quite* what happened -- see below). However, sanity is not confirmed. Flavor is that because of the ecstatic effects, the results may not be reliable.

Super: Drunkenness -- I learn whether a player is Greek Pantheon-aligned or not 100%. Flavor should be obvious. Sanity is 100% confirmed. This can be done at any time, but only once per game.

(NB: That this is a large part of why I was inclined to believe BabySpice, but wanted her to give me flavor. My abilities don't really make sense for Dionysus (minus the sanity being funky, which is why I didn't notice the non-match at first if you go back and read D1), but they do fit once flavor is added.)

N1 I
targeted AV with Ecstasy
. For some reason, I ended up getting
results on AlmamasterGM
, and I had to look things up to find that he'd replaced RangerOfTheNorth. My result indicated that he was
Lord Jesus Christ, God of the Christians
. However, because of the weird targeting results, I wasn't sure about things, so I tried to ask AGM about his name in a way that a 3rd party claim would be a way out. That way, I could confirm the sane result.

On the other hand, if AV was the REAL Lord Jesus Christ (and my insanity was just a factor of the claimed target, for example), that would lead to a different interpretation. And since we get 2 lynches today, I decided to use Drunkenness on AV.

AV is 100% mod-confirmed not to be aligned with the Greek Pantheon.
I thought this might give me his name, too, since Ecstasy randomly did, but no dice. Still, it's not all bad, right?

Given all THAT, my best guess is that AV is scum and scum busdrove him with AGM-nonscum (though not necessarily AGM-town) on the grounds that AV was relatively scummy yesterday and liable to be vigged.

TL;DR

AurourusVox is sanity-confirmed non-town.
AGM is sanity-dependently identified as Lord Jesus Christ, God of the Christians.


One of the players we lynch today will be AV. I'm actually inclined to lynch someone like Chrono as the second on the grounds that the implicit AGM-AV busdrive implies that they do not share alignments, and AV was the more obvious player for scum to busdrive with another player (given that either one of them were scum, I mean), so I think he's the mafia-scum of the two. And it's also possible that AGM isn't even Jesus, anyway.

AGM, if you could confirm/deny the Lord Jesus Christ result, that would be helpful.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:41 pm

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not at all surprised at AV scum

can we lynch chrono and AV then?
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:45 pm

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Here is my suggestion:

If AGM claims Jesus, we lynch AV and Chronopie. We can have a nice debate over the second one though idc. I will consider AGM confirmed 3rd party.

If AGM claims not Jesus, we lynch him after I get a handle on how the sanity manipulation works unless

A) it turns out that sanity was likely messing with things (e.g. I find out that Ecstasy doesn't normally give me actual roles) or
B) the real JC flips.
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:46 pm

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EBWOP: To clarify, AV + Chrono sounds good to me in the latter case, too. I'm open to other 2nd lynches, though.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:47 pm

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I'm not Jesus (although that would be REALLY AMUSING- LOL ANDRIUS U FUNNY).
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:47 pm

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If AGM claims not Jesus, we lynch him after I get a handle on how the sanity manipulation works unless

uh fuck no

we have just established that A) Your sanity is not guaranteed and B) there are bus driverz in play

so why we would lynch me BECAUSE?
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:50 pm

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Two reasons (one is fake!):

A) Because if I determine that sanity issues were unlikely to be in play last night, you are 3rd party and a minimally tragic mislynch.

B) I was constructing the scenario such that it would appear beneficial for you to claim Jesus so that you would be more likely to do so.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:50 pm

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I just re-read your ability.

We can short this crap out RIGHT NOW because ANDRIUS IS MODDING and this game is thus HIGHLY PREDICTABLE:

Please refer to exhibits A and B:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14747 - GOD
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=16711 - JESUS

Your ability gives you a false result. Andrius decided it would be LULZY to name me Jesus because of the backstory in those two games.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:54 pm

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Unvote


Lynching AV and Chronopie sounds smexy. Mothrax can be vigbait or something.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 5:54 pm

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~UPDATE!~

Andy just send me a PM saying that my Ecstasy ability's explanation was mistaken. It should have read that the rolename would be given. The "alignment" indication was mis-edited. Probably an earlier version of the role that they changed.

I DEMAND BONUS POWERS, ANDY! SABOTAGE! <_<

I would be a bit annoyed if he really chose insane results on the fly like that, BUT it does seem plausible...and since you replaced in, it's not that he tailor-made the role for you.

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