Mini 1141 - Frogs Mafia 2 - GAME, SET, MATCH

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

CONFESS.

[scotmany12]

What? You want me to claim?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I want you to confess to your heinous crimes against frogkind.

[scotmany12]

I have committed no crimes against anyone.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Then why did you misinterpret "CONFESS."? Sounds like a guilty conscience to me.

[scotmany12]

Did you track me to you ces, cause that's the impression that I am getting.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Dammit, scot, no. Why would a scum power role target me? If I had tracked you to me, you'd be on my town list.

I'm not even voting for you.

[Apokalyptika]

Just so you know, I'll probably be on LA for a few days. Also, scot, what the hell.

[scotmany12]

Dammit, scot, no. Why would a scum power role target me? If I had tracked you to me, you'd be on my town list.

I'm not even voting for you.

Yes, but you suspect me. Anyways, my bad.

[Amrun]

lol.

VOTE: scotmany12

[scotmany12]

lol.

VOTE: scotmany12

I pretty much just claimed to have targeted ces last night. Why are you voting for me?

[Amrun]

I actually missed that post somehow, but I was voting for you for your guilty conscience.

You might as well fullclaim now that you've put your toe in the water.

[scotmany12]

I actually missed that post somehow, but I was voting for you for your guilty conscience.

You might as well fullclaim now that you've put your toe in the water.

Not ready to fullclaim. And I don't have a guilty conscience about anything. And I don't believe that you missed that post. You just happened to skip over that one post? You said you are voting for me for my guilty conscience. That must mean you read the other posts then.

[Amrun]

I read the page but I somehow missed that important little detail. Speedreading as it is finals week.

VOTE: Merensial

Back there, then.

I've thought about it and no, don't claim.

[MrBuddyLee]

I'm here. The fact that Bella was motivated to replace into the game but hasn't been motivated to try to find scum for the last month.. troubling.

Bella read the game, and immediately latched on to the "two things she was asked to respond to" and nothing else. Cemented CES as town (prematurely, imo) and then used him to justify her vote on nopoint. Made one milquetoast reference to Apok's scumminess and then quit trying to find scum.

Meransiel, I normally ain't as interested in townreads as scumreads, but it seems everyone is working on process of elimination. Who are your inferred scumreads?

scot, when you're done with finals, please give us some details on your reads of Meransiel vs. Amrun. If you have a Bella opinion too, please share.

CES, wouldn't you think that if Bella were town, at least one scum might have tried to serve her up as lynchfodder by now? (Hint: I'm the only person seriously putting her forward as a candidate, and no one's biting.)

[Shanba]

Vote Count:
2: Mrbuddylee

(Cogito Ergo sum, Apokalyptica)

1: Scotmany12

(Apokalyptica)

1: Meransiel

(Amrun)
Not Voting:

Scotmany12, Meransiel, MrBuddyLee Bella, implosion

Checking activity - I think there's going to be a number of prods

implosion and bella are being prodded. Deadline is the 18th of May

[Bella]

Also: Meransiel is an idiot. Thanks for claiming for me on day one. Neighbour doesn't mean one must be scum. Shanba is too smart for that. The lack of confirmation significantly weakens the power of the role, which helps with the balance. Bleh.

Why idiot and not scum? Didn't seem to suspect Meransiel at all for the unprovoked claim.

Two reasons: One, Meransiel read like an idiot who didn't know what he was doing rather than scum. Two, I believe Shanba is more likely to have two town neighbours in a game than one scum and one townie neighbour based off my knowledge of how hwe thinks, his approach to balance and his opinions on certain roles. Combine the two, and I think he's town.

CES I have a less strong read on, but I'd be willing to bet he's town. He's playing in a manner consistent with previous experience of his town play, at least - particularly the "vote without stating reasons" thing that's been leveled against him, I've seen him do that plenty of times as town.

Really not sure there was enough to go on to be willing to bet CES was town at the time. He was tunneled on nopoint and poking at Amrun. Null at best for me, thus I see Bella's statement here as overreaching and possibly scummy. "he votes without reasons as town" is a lousy argument for pro-town CES on April 12th.

I find it hard to be persuaded by a case that relies upon someone doing something that is a consistent part of their town meta as evidence that they are scum. It happens to me plenty.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

MBL, there's a bit of apathy going around, so no, I'm not particularly surprised.

Everyone should vote, preferably for MBL.

[MrBuddyLee]

I find it hard to be persuaded by a case that relies upon someone doing something that is a consistent part of their town meta as evidence that they are scum. It happens to me plenty.

So CES only gives pithy answers as town? The point here is not that you disagreed unreasonably with the case that CES was scum, but rather that you used this as your primary evidence that CES is town.

From this point forward, you all are going to hear this drumbeat incessantly from CES:

Everyone should vote, preferably for MBL.

You have two choices: ignore it, or cave in and lynch a townie. Please resist.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

You know who else heard incessant drumbeats?

The Master.

GOT YOU NOW.

[MrBuddyLee]

I really hate being lynched as town. It'd be tempered by the fact that this game has 11 replacements, but I'd rather win. Can you please consider bucking your trend just this once and coming up with a backup suspect?

[Meransiel]

Meransiel, I normally ain't as interested in townreads as scumreads, but it seems everyone is working on process of elimination. Who are your inferred scumreads?

None, I'm afraid. I think you, Amrun, obvCES and (possibly, not certain) implosion are town, but the rest don't seem particularly scummy.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Scotmany12 and Apok's claims are pretty convincing too, so that just leaves MBL and Bella by process of elimination.

[Meransiel]

You're like 100% sure apok is telling the truth?

[implosion]

Thursday is the AP Lit test. After that, stuff should get at least a bit less hectic. I'll post content then. Sorry.