Mini 1153 - Fringe Season 3 Mafia - Game over

[populartajo]

okay, lets fix this shit:

Emp is about to be lynched.
Ghost claims Alternate Phillip Broyles, Mafia Roleblocker/Traitor/One sided lover with Emp, Olivia Dunham. He also says that Esurio, Walternate, is scum.
Olinea claims Walternaite is also scum.
Nocmen claims that he is Olivia and that also Esurio, Walternate, is scum.
Emp claims Alt-Olivia, mafia goon.
Esurio claims Brandon, pro-town survivor JOAT.

Ok, first things first, since I know zero flavor. Is it possible for two Olivias to coexist? : Emp and Noc?
Then, Noc, if you knew esurio was scum, then why didnt you tell us this from page 1?
Finally, prefering Esurio lynch over a Ghost lynch is dumb. Ghost CLAIMED SCUM and all we have about Esurio is some info that may or may not be truth, Think guys.

[populartajo]

Emp, did you know you were a lover with Ghost=?

[Nocmen]

I'm.. confused...

Noc: WEhy didn't you say something sooner (About Seraph being walternate?)

Because I need him alive for part of my role. Why claim when it's not needed.

I need him alive to use my one shot role of traveling to the other side. Remember my randomly calling seraphim scum? I knew it but I wanted him to be d2 Lynch so I can pop my role tonight. I don't know what it does but I need Walter to be alive for it.

Emp is a liar. I am alt Olivia with a fake claim of Olivia.

[populartajo]

So are you also claiming scum?

[esuriospiritus]

WHY DID YOU CLAIM?

-It's not like scum are going to kill me as long as I'm a probable mislynch, but I'm still worried about getting vigged (lolsurvivor)
-Scum don't know if I'm telling the truth about my powers or not, but other than Raivann I'm the only one who's overtly claimed power. If Raivann is telling the truth and scum have a roleblocker, this forces them to choose between roleblocking Raivann (with a devastating ability for scum) and roleblocking me (they don't know what my specific abilities are; I could potentially have something even more devastating, like a vig shot)

Is it possible for two Olivias to coexist? : Emp and Noc?

Yes.

Olivia, from the Blue 'Verse (Our Side)
Fauxlivia, from the Red 'Verse (The Other Side)

Emp, did you know you were a lover with Ghost=?

Whut?

Emp is a liar. I am alt Olivia with a fake claim of Olivia.

[Nocmen]

So are you also claiming scum?

Yes and no. I have a town role name but a mafia win condition.

[populartajo]

Then you are also scum, sir.

Esurio, ok.

[Nocmen]

But does it make sense for both olivias being scum?
Scratch that, nothing makes sense here.
But emp must be the opposite alignment of myself.

[MrBump]

I find it funny that Newman claimed a big role and has no connection to this shit whatsoever.

I'm still completely confused.

[Empking]

Empking: were you Bussing Eso then, is he your leader?

I'd call it distancing.

[populartajo]

Emp, who do you want to lynch?

[Empking]

Emp, who do you want to lynch?

See, I don't know. If I beciome town Day three then Ghost/Esur, if not then Noc because he's clearly third party.

[populartajo]

Why would you become town?

[Olinea]

Remind me never to watch this show.

Unvote

[Empking]

Sorry guys, according to my role PM I can't let you do that. My role PM says Empking is town but acutally may not know that.

It's time for me to acutally jump on a grenade for the good of my win condition. I am the Alternate Phillip Broyles. Leader of the division, but since Olivia Dunham saved my kid I've had doubts. I am a Mafia Roleblocker/Traitor (one sided lover) with the piece of information I just shared with you. If anyone targets my family...well, I bite it.

It also mentions Olivia Dunham is town and for my win condition all members of my family

must

survive and Olivia must realize she's town. I know Empking is Olivia.

The scum leader is Walternate, who was Seraphim and who is now esurio. Here's the deal. I'm going to have you test my own honesty. Lynch me now. If I don't flip Mafia Traitor, lynch whomever you want. If I flip Mafia Traitor, lynch esurio tomorrow and decide for yourselves what you're going to do.

To ensure you guys don't go, 'he's bluffing', I'll even make this easy on you.

Unvote. Vote: Ghostlin

I don't know where the become town thing comes from actually. Huh.

[Olinea]

Okay, so claimed scum is... Ghostlin/Empking, correct?

Given the whole dilemma with alternate Olivias and identity thieves I'm inclined not to touch one of the Olivias today. esurio's point that conflicting information regarding Alt-Olivia being scum but actually Town and vice-versa is a bit more concrete than flavor speculation but now we've got two claimed scum, so ehhh.

esurio's claim seems locked down pretty solidly, I would like her to explain this, however...

This plus the prevalent bastard moddery leads me to believe that it's possible that our scumteam is made up of shapeshifters (my Fringe game had this to an extent) who can communicate with the mod to flip anything they want, which would sort of explain

the mass-scumteam gambit that seems to be going on here

.

Who's part of the gambiting scumteam right now?

Vote: Ghostlin

[Zang]

Votecount-

HellloooNewman - 1 - (Empking) (L-6)
Ghostlin - 7 - (ThAdmiral,  HellloooNewman, Ghostlin, esuriospiritus, camn, MrBump, Olinea) (L-0)
Silverbullet999 - 1 - (Silverbullet999) (L-6)
empking - 2 - (Populartajo,, Nocmen) (L-5)
esuriospiritus - 1 - (evilpacman18) (L-6)

Not Voting:Raivann,

7 needed to lynch

Ghostlin, Alternate Phillip Broyles, Mafia Roleblocker

has been lynched day 1.


Night 1 begins now. If you have any night actions, send them in now.

[Zang]

Raivann,

The observer, Neutral Observing Survivor

has been killed in a complex chain of events night 1.

camn,

Phillip Broyles, Town Cop

has been crippled by amnesia night 1.

Day 2 begins now

[populartajo]

That is not possible.

Anyway, one of Emp and Noc need to die today.

Unvote Vote: Nocmen.

Just because Emp is not worried about his lynch while Nocmen is.

[Olinea]

OK, I'll confess. I'm Alternate-Olivia Mafia Goon.

Eh. Given that I'd believe Fauxlivia and Walternate are scum, I'm inclined to do Empking today.

I don't see how not wanting to be lynched is a scumtell, tajo.

[Olinea]

Vote: Empking

[populartajo]

So are you also claiming scum?

Yes and no. I have a town role name but a mafia win condition.

My reasoning is like this:

Emp confesses he is scum.

Nocmen confesses he has a town role but a mafia win condition.

I really dont understand why people are claiming scum but its like Emp has no troubles getting lynched while Noc does.

[populartajo]

It also mentions Olivia Dunham is town and for my win condition all members of my family

must

survive and Olivia must realize she's town. I know Empking is Olivia.

however, after reading this quote, I think I want to lynch Emp again.

I guess we need more input, night actions, etc.

[Olinea]

It also mentions Olivia Dunham is town and for my win condition all members of my family

must

survive and Olivia must realize she's town. I know Empking is Olivia.

however, after reading this quote, I think I want to lynch Emp again.

I guess we need more input, night actions, etc.

Hm. Forgot about that bit.

Wouldn't it imply that Empking is under the impression that he's a Mafia Goon but is actually Town-sided?

[populartajo]

Thats something a scumbag told us, so he is more likely lying about it.

Thats why I now want Emp lynched because a flipped scum sacrificed himself for Emp.