Mini 1137: Long Overdue Mafia [Game Over!]

[Rhinox]

VOTECOUNT 3.3

chkflip (1) - Cecily
Faraday (2) - Setael, Bub Bidderskins
Bub Bidderskins (1) - mikemike778
mikemike778 (1) - Faraday
Setael (0) -
Cecily (3) - Nachomamma8, havingfitz, chkflip
havingfitz (0) -
Nachomamma8 (0) -

not voting (0):

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline for Day 3 is

Wednesday, May 4th at Noon EST

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[Bub Bidderskins]

The reason I'm voting for PT is that he has consistently only posted content targetted at people who have attacked him. Consistently. The first time he ever voiced any suspision of you was directly after you attacked him. For me, that capped of a trend and it reached a voting point.

Why did you consider PT confirmed town (other than because Nacho said so) before he attacked me ?

When did you notice this trend of PT attacking people who targetted him ?

Why did you vote Voided Day 1 (other than because others voted him) ?

Because he was the first vote on the Pine wagon. I admit, I was far too quick to confirm people. I noticed the trend when I saw PT basically OMGUSing you, and then I ISO'd him, at which point I discovered the trend.

I voted for Voided Day 1 because if I didn't want a no-lynch on D-1. The person who I thought was scummiest on that day was neil (though I turned out to be wrong on that read) there wasn't enough support for a neil lynch, and it was really close to deadline so I voted for Voided to prevent a D-1 no-lynch. He wasn't my scummiest pick, but at that time I felt like he was a better lynch than most.

[Bub Bidderskins]

@Faraday: Basically, on D-1 Pappums Rat (who was later replaced by nacho) pulled a gambit by claiming he was a one-shot sane day-cop and he just got a guilty verdict on VoidedMafia. Many people voted for voided because of this, but when Pappums revealed that he lied, a bumch of people got on his wagon simply because of Lynch All Liars (havingfitz was the main proponent of this). Pappums rat kind of imploded and ended up replacing out of the game. Eventually, we lynched Voided because of his questionable reaction to Pappums' fake claim right before deadline. Voided flipped town after Pine quickly hammered him.

The next day Pine caught some flak for his hammer and some other reactions he made. Also, Transocelot claimed one-shot vig. Pine got lynched and flipped scum, and Transocelot and Neil were killed that night and both flipped town. Cec and Chk were off the wagon and did not produce much content, so they came under fire after the Pine lynch and were the top two suspects coming into today. PT (whom you replaced) was the first one to vote on Pine, but throughout the entire game he had not produced content except against players who attacked him. I voted for him for this reason.

And that pretty much brings you up to speed on how the first two days went.

[Faraday]

<3.

I'll probably get around to reading this tomorrow properly, it'll only take me an hour. I already skimmed some of it like 2/3 weeks ago when I offered to replace in so i should have something by tomorrow, hopefully.

[mikemike778]

The reason I'm voting for PT is that he has consistently only posted content targetted at people who have attacked him. Consistently. The first time he ever voiced any suspision of you was directly after you attacked him. For me, that capped of a trend and it reached a voting point.

Why did you consider PT confirmed town (other than because Nacho said so) before he attacked me ?

When did you notice this trend of PT attacking people who targetted him ?

Why did you vote Voided Day 1 (other than because others voted him) ?

Because he was the first vote on the Pine wagon. I admit, I was far too quick to confirm people. I noticed the trend when I saw PT basically OMGUSing you, and then I ISO'd him, at which point I discovered the trend.

I voted for Voided Day 1 because if I didn't want a no-lynch on D-1. The person who I thought was scummiest on that day was neil (though I turned out to be wrong on that read) there wasn't enough support for a neil lynch, and it was really close to deadline so I voted for Voided to prevent a D-1 no-lynch. He wasn't my scummiest pick, but at that time I felt like he was a better lynch than most.

Is this a common trait for you then ... do you generally speaking give 3 quarters of the players a 'confirmed town' status ? Why do you regard Fitz as confirmed town (again other than because Nacho said so) ?

Have you played as scum and have you ever bussed anyone if you have (played as scum) ? Sorry but regarding someone as confirmed town purely because they put a vote on Pine just seems crazy to me.

Oh and welcome Faraday ...

[havingfitz]

PT (whom you replaced) was the first one to vote on Pine,

Actually he (PT) was 3rd to vote Pine.

[Bub Bidderskins]

PT (whom you replaced) was the first one to vote on Pine,

Actually he (PT) was 3rd to vote Pine.

Sorry, you're right. Pine was the first vote on the end-of-day vote count, which is what I checked.

Is this a common trait for you then ... do you generally speaking give 3 quarters of the players a 'confirmed town' status ? Why do you regard Fitz as confirmed town (again other than because Nacho said so) ?

No, and it was a mistake on my part to do so because PT came out and proved that he was absolutly not confirmed town. As far as fitz, he's no longer "confirmed" town in my book (again, it was a mistake for me to do that) but I do have a town read on him for reasons already stated.

[chkflip]

ISO'd Cecily. She's town.

PT or chk should be lynched today.

I'd like to know which part of her ISO read so glaringly town because I'm looking at it (have almost finished my case) and I'm seeing quite the opposite.

[Cecily]

@chk, I feel like your argument on me is going to reek of OMGUS..

My money is no longer on the spot of PT, but reading through fitz's arguments against me I find that he's been misinterpreting my points a good deal. I've tried to make my posts as clear as possible (though I'm nothing close to an english major, so they could be awful) but he seems to have to go over everything I say and take it for something other than what it was intended to be. I'm out of time for right now but I'll try and get a more thorough explanation of what I mean later. As for right now my vote is still on chk because he's giving off the most newb-scum vibes.

[Faraday]

2. I'm probably more cautious than reckless, would try and build a case before making serious votes that type of thing.

this explains why you're a pidgeot. imma never evolve at this rate.

havingfitz's push on cecily for post times is seriously fucking stupid too.

pappums rat is confirmed town, via the reaction to his gambit from the dead scum.

[Faraday]

glad pappums revealed, day's sort of boring so far. when does setael join???? >_>

[Faraday]

pappums rat (4) - Voidedmafia, havingfitz, andrew94, neil1113

^ bad and should feel bad. be very surprised if there wasn't one 'MORAL' scum who was 'outraged' at pappums gambit.

[Faraday]

#192 from andrew means he's probably the scum. this coming from the fucking idiot who thought fakeclaiming/hinting at being a serial killer would be a good idea. yeah.

[havingfitz]

havingfitz's push on cecily for post times is seriously fucking stupid too.

If you don't agree with people putting pressure on players who are skating through this game then fine...we disagree, but there's no need to be a twat while you're at it.

[Faraday]

wat are you talking about. it was nothing to do with him skating through the game, trying to aspire scum motive to ask when people posts is stupid. i'm not insulting you as a person just saying your attack is stupid. I'll SUBSTITUTE the word stupid for silly from now on. hehehe that's so silly! better?

[Faraday]

vote chkflip

anyway.

[Faraday]

I'm detrimental to this town and am not helping. Sorry for putting whoever replaces me in a bad position, but I need a break from mafia

^^ town.

[havingfitz]

wat are you talking about. it was nothing to do with him skating through the game, trying to aspire scum motive to ask when people posts is stupid. i'm not insulting you as a person just saying your attack is stupid. I'll SUBSTITUTE the word stupid for silly from now on. hehehe that's so silly! better?

I don't recall asking Cecily when she posts? Not sure what your point is. I am giving her shit for not posting because she's under a bit of suspicion at the moment and she isn't doing anything to defdend herself. If she does turn out to be town I'll be pissed and if she is scyum...as I have suspected/hoped since Day 2...then great! I'm voting her for carry over from my earlier suspicions and her avoidance of the game and any worthwhile content. Which I do see as scummy. Pardon my reaction. Your assessment of my pressure on Cecily was twat-like....not you as a person

Preview edit...who said that Faraday?

[Faraday]

jerbs.

[Faraday]

oh and i don't really care if you call me a twat, tbh. and i'm posting comments as I go, so this is all from way earlier in the game, like first 12 pages.

[Faraday]

pine's 328 literally confirms bud in hindsight. awesome this game is easy.

[Faraday]

Fitz:

The only indisputable fact we have in this game is that pappums lied and deceived town. (scummy)
- Repeatedly ignoring accusations and question towards him. (scummy)
- Misrepping/overexagerrating to pad a weak case. (scummy)
- Ad-hom attacks in lieu of rational debate. (scummy)

Why are these more likely to come from scum? 1/4 don't make much sense as being scumtells, given the context of 1. 4 isn't a scumtell at all, being angry which pappums was is a town tell.
2/3 aren't scummy in my opinion, anyone posting cases always pad them, it's annoying but everyone does it (or those that post any sort of long case).

[Faraday]

sometimes you gotta make like batman and be the hero the town needs but not deserves.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I said this to a mod in a different game oncd! *highfive*

[Faraday]

havingfitz and andrew/chk are probs pine's scumbuddies. skimmed most of what fitz said admittedly, but pine's interactions look fairly transparent, setting up looking into fitz day 2 and all that, I bet he never did either.

[Faraday]

If there's a third I'd lean toward P.T. but Pine said something at one point that indicated there are 2 scum so I'm thinking maybe 2 scum and a traitor or something to that effect.

Link to this post plz.