Battle for Olympus - Game Over!

[chesskid3]

I don't care who wagons with me as long as it's a chronopie wagon >__>

is that bad?

[quadz08]

unvote, Vote: Chesskid

He's being scummier than usual, and trying too hard to lead. Plus if AGar is telling the truth Chesskid is likely scum based on having a similar role to SD.

So you think a scum Chesskid, with a role similar to a Town SD, thinks it's a good plan to attack SD on the basis that they have similar roles?

QFT.

217-219 make me scratch my head... Dekes proposes a wagon on me, SD votes me at the slightest hint a wagon could happen, and then Dekes hops right on when he sees the wagon on me is getting somewhere? Not looking good for old Dekes here.

I didn't know this game was vanillaless, but my original point on Chess stands. He's still the scummiest to me.

I agree with your point on Dekes. I found his call for your wagon, and then only voting AFTER shadow's vote, to be scummy.
However, I would like an explanation on why your point on Chess still stands.

Yep, that's why I proposed the wagon.

And you didn't comment on my other point. Do you think it would make sense for scum-chess to cc town-SD on Day 1 and risk a 1:1 trade?

(Bold mine.)

WUT. Explain this, please.

You did your RVS like scum do their RVS

everyone else on that page did TOWN RVS

What is the difference between town and scum RVS?

I'm looking forward to CMAR'S answers to my previous questions. He, AV, and diddin are definitely my scumreads right now (all pretty even).

[chesskid3]

Tone, mostly, quadz

[quadz08]

Examples?

[Dekes]

@quadz
It's no use to spread votes. Even less so on Day 1. Wagon is where it's at to get the proper results. CMAR is a good wagon, too. That's why I hopped on. But I'm more confident in my read on diddin. All I needed was a token of support.

[chesskid3]

Examples?

every game ever, tbh

also a lot of my own RVSes

[quadz08]

@quadz
It's no use to spread votes. Even less so on Day 1. Wagon is where it's at to get the proper results. CMAR is a good wagon, too. That's why I hopped on. But I'm more confident in my read on diddin. All I needed was a token of support.

So... start a wagon? Be the first vote? By just saying "hey I'd like to see a wagon on him," you kick off a wagon, with no record of it on the votecount. That's scummy.

Chess: Can you quote an example of a townie RVS and a scummy RVS from this game and explain the difference? Because I'm not seeing it.

[chesskid3]

VOTE: Plum

Inevitably scum.

town rvs

Vote: RangeroftheNorth

Too long of a name.

scum rvs

Vote: Charon

100% scum.

Town rvs

Vote: MoI

Can't be NK'ed N1 if you're lynched D1, right?

town rvs

VOTE: Baby Spice For being the only person ahead of me on the playerlist.

Limited Access until the 22nd btw

scum rvs

[quadz08]

From what I can tell, a 'scummy RVS' comes from specific in-game references. Is that your reasoning? Or just coincidence?

[chesskid3]

Eh, coincidence, though out of game references are more likley to be town.

Short, concise, utterly random = town
semi-random,contrived = scum

[Baby Spice]

unvote

Agar clears SD for the moment. Time will tell.

#217--#219 not good.
Deke's floating a wagon before joining, hell floating a wagon in a post attacking others, then joining, is scumy.


CK, are you saying good joke reason vs reasonless reason?

Vla the weekend

Bloodbowl tourney

[chesskid3]

Btw, i've as good as fullclaimed haven't i >_>

[quadz08]

That reasoning makes sense, and I think I agree. It's a rather weak tell, though, and I'm confused why my RVS doesn't fall into the 'scum' category.

Hi BabySpice! Way to rocket up the scumlist. Make it a 4-way tie for me.

[chesskid3]

tone is not one you get from scum

[Dekes]

The fact I joined the diddin wagon immediately and followed up with the case on him should demonstrate my reads. A sole vote on him doesn't send a message though.

BS, you said three things in your post that were said in almost exactly the same way by others before.

[diddin]

unvote

Agar clears SD for the moment. Time will tell.

#217--#219 not good.
Deke's floating a wagon before joining, hell floating a wagon in a post attacking others, then joining, is scumy.


CK, are you saying good joke reason vs reasonless reason?

Vla the weekend

Bloodbowl tourney

Wait. You unvoted and called Dekes scummy, but didn't vote him. At least Chrono maybe didn't finish reading.

unvote Vote: Baby Spice

[quadz08]

The fact I joined the diddin wagon immediately and followed up with the case on him should demonstrate my reads. A sole vote on him doesn't send a message though.

BS, you said three things in your post that were said in almost exactly the same way by others before.

Mmmm... Normally I'd say your joining the diddin wagon immediately meant you were looking for town approval, but that approval came from SD, who isn't the greatest barometer of town opinion right now. I still don't like it, though.

[Baby Spice]

Got ninja'd four times for that post, and a scumtell is a scumtell reguardless of how many point it out.


Way to go Diddin. Make the sus wagon on you look good. Well done that lad.

[quadz08]

And sheeping is sheeping, regardless of how good the scumtell you're sheeping is.

Also, what? OMGUS-much?

[Gemini]

Hey BabySpice,

Since you're here and all, want to discuss why you thought SD's mere reference to Norse mythology egregious enough to lynch him? Or are you trying to slide past that and hope everyone will just forget about it, now that Agar's got us all backed off of SD?

FoS: BabySpice

This is where I would put my vote, pending agreement from mockingjaye.

Dear Gemini,

What are your reads?

-AGar

Our reads as specifically discussed in our hydra QT are:

Chesskid3 = town based on MJ's town/scum meta
SD = scummy (possible early lynch fodder, but also overdefensive and did not respond well to pressure)
Auravox=scummy (besides what I talked about in my post - seems like he's trying to avoid being overscrutinized)
Babyspice = scummy (terrible vote on SD)
LordChronos = Leaning town

Those were players we specifically discussed prior to Shadowdancer's claim (Mockingjaye hasn't been back since then)

Personal reads of mine aside from the above are:

Magna = Town
AGar = Likely town
Diddin = Scummy

Circumstantial evidence:

- Kind of wondering where Iecerint is, he's usually quite talkative.
- Gandalf seems townie to me right now and that actually makes me suspicious since he's seemed scummy to me in the games I played with him where he was town.

Most of the other people on the playerlist haven't caught my eye one way or the other yet. The other Gemini can give any reads she has additional to that.

[chesskid3]

Chronos isn't leaning town >_>

[Baby Spice]

Hey BabySpice,

Since you're here and all, want to discuss why you thought SD's mere reference to Norse mythology egregious enough to lynch him? Or are you trying to slide past that and hope everyone will just forget about it, now that Agar's got us all backed off of SD?

FoS: BabySpice

Hey Gemini.

Would you care to explain how, in a game where we know the Greek gods are town and that other gods are the scum, raising up something from a different mythology, and nothing else mythologically related, is not a potential scumslip and worthy of pressure?

[Baby Spice]

Chronos isn't leaning town >_>

Agree.

Nothing in what he has posted reads as town.

Vote Chronopie

[quadz08]

.... Was that intended to be a vote for chronopie? Cause if it was, WTF.

[Baby Spice]

Damn kids.

Thanks Quadz.

unvote, vote LordChronos