Mini 269 - Game Over

[Green Crayons]

Otherwise it seems like you're just a mafia member thinking the town is stupid and trying to get us to quicklynch someone based on an unjustified assumption.

Actually, it just seems like bad play. I didn't think scum ever played this obvious anymore?

[BabyJesus]

And now we see the pileon....

I accept that you have a hunch - I get those too - but could you point out specifically what posts of Adele's gave you your hunch.

It was carryover from the previous day something in her interaction with Graken seemed off to me....

I could be wrong though. Feel free to string me up and see if I'm mafia though.

[Adele]

Unvote: BabyJesus

. Thank you. And I can see what tweaked you. His behaviour just seemed

so

illogical that I was at something of a loss. It's like my kryptonite. Our interactions were atypical.

btw, the "voice from beyond the grave" thing? Just wrong, man. Our poor mod...

[Shamrock]

Unvote: BJ

I re-read it and see what you mean, she does seem a little pushy and odd, but for now at least I'm inclined to believe it's just because of Graken's even stranger behavior.

[Dodgy]

At last he goes some way to explain himself.
I won't unvote yet cos its pointless unless I have someone else in mind.
However, it just goes to show how a little interaction with the group can change perceptions.

[BabyJesus]

ok, new direction.

unvote, vote Matjoeman

Reading through everyone's posts his stuck out to me....contributing very little, but what he DOES contribute is a whole lot of FOS'ing and casting suspicion on everyone, but not committing himself often with a vote....

Then there is armlx who seems generally unhelpful so far....

[Adele]

Every time I see his name, it jumps into my brain anew:
"Matjoe, Matjoeman... I've got to be, a Matjoeman..."

grr

[Dodgy]

I agree, some peeps on here need to start posting!

[halo freak]

Vote Count

1 Matjoeman (Baby J)
1 Poriot (Falcone
1 Baby J (Dodgy)

With 10 alive it will take 6 votes to lynch.

P.S Matjoeman has been prodded

[Poirot]

It's so amusing...so many votes, so little direction.

Please get matjoeman here. We need someone to add something to this discussion.

[Matjoeman]

Back sorry, was focusing on my other mafia game on another site, but now I'm dead.

Every time I see his name, it jumps into my brain anew:
"Matjoe, Matjoeman... I've got to be, a Matjoeman..."

Yeah I get that a lot.

Reading through everyone's posts his stuck out to me....contributing very little, but what he DOES contribute is a whole lot of FOS'ing and casting suspicion on everyone, but not committing himself often with a vote....

Its been hard for me to read people this game. Your older vote of Adele was scummy, but from what I've heard you do that a lot.

[Falcone]

You need to put the names in your quotes between " ", then they'll come up nicely.

Anyway, isn't it a scum tell to say things like: "I don't know who's suspicious" or "It's hard to read people"?

[Adele]

Remember, the "preview" button is your friend.

Fixed:

Back sorry, was focusing on my other mafia game on another site, but now I'm dead.

Every time I see his name, it jumps into my brain anew:
"Matjoe, Matjoeman... I've got to be, a Matjoeman..."

Yeah I get that a lot.

Reading through everyone's posts his stuck out to me....contributing very little, but what he DOES contribute is a whole lot of FOS'ing and casting suspicion on everyone, but not committing himself often with a vote....

Its been hard for me to read people this game. Your older vote of Adele was scummy, but from what I've heard you do that a lot.

Regarding the second point, once BabyJesus (finally) explained his vote for me, I understood it. Obviously I don't

agree

but I can see where he was coming from and I don't think it was scummy.

[BabyJesus]

You need to put the names in your quotes between " ", then they'll come up nicely.

Anyway, isn't it a scum tell to say things like: "I don't know who's suspicious" or "It's hard to read people"?

inability to use the quote function is scummy....


we should lynch matjoe...

[Poirot]

Okay...while we're after random votes, Vote Armlx for being Armlx.
No, I'm not serious. We need direction, rather than foolishness.

[Falcone]

Direction you say? What about your direction? I wasn't kidding when I voted you for using crap-logic. Any comments on these quotes? (Sorry for quoting them out of context, but the numbers indicate the post number when you just look at your posts.)

[3] "Just a thought, but it could be a bluff. While the mafia may be outnumbered, if they can force a mislynch, then get a kill on the real cop Night 1, it may be worth the sacrifice of one member if they can get momentum (and the cop). Besides, if they can turn the tide of the vote Day 2, their gambit paid off and they got the Cop."

[7] "Of course, this means that the mafia gets a free shot at the Doc, but right now, a random killing exchanged for one investigation is better than losing the Cop in exchange for deterring a killing on someone who may be more important."

[12] "He says that he's claiming in order to prevent confusion, but doesn't that just benefit the mafia more? Even if he's a townie, he could just be hitting the town to hurt them more."

[Poirot]

I'm just putting out ideas. Some of them seem bizarre now that we know who Graken was, but I was just submitting suggestions. I'm not intending to be taken completely seriously when I say things like that. Just consider them, shrug them off, and move on.

[warpdragon]

In order to see what post number a post really is, click on the little page icon in the upper left of the posts's head when you are viewing by person. Falcone's references to BJ'S (I assume) posts are 3=72, 7=89, and 1=107.

[BabyJesus]

In order to see what post number a post really is, click on the little page icon in the upper left of the posts's head when you are viewing by person. Falcone's references to BJ'S (I assume) posts are 3=72, 7=89, and 1=107.

Falcone is referencing Poirot, not me....

[Matjoeman]

You need to put the names in your quotes between " ", then they'll come up nicely.

I'm used to other forums where it works the way I tried to use it

[Dodgy]

Ok, I think its time we got this moving again.
Does anyone have a real gut feeling about someone being scum?
Obviously Falcone does but I'm not hugely convinced his actions have been scummy but hey, Ive been wrong in the past.
Im asking cos at this moment in time, I don't have a gut feeling about anyone and when that happens, I usually go after the lurkers.
Any ideas?

[Falcone]

@ Poirot: Just putting out ideas, eh? At the very least, some of your ideas don't seem very well thought-through.

I'll clarify what exactly I found strange in the statements I quoted.

1) I took this as to mean that you thought Graken could be mafia posing as cop to try and out the real cop. They would then "force a mislynch", I presume on someone else, kill the real cop at Night, and then try and save Graken, the exposed false cop, the next Day.

The problem with this reasoning is that the real cop would likely be doc-protected (at least 50% chance, and probably more as a counterclaimer is more likely to be believed as the original claimer), plus it would be a suicide mission for the mafia to try and save their now-outed-to-be-scum partner the next day.

I found this suspicious because it seemed like an attempt to put suspicion on a claimed cop (who was, in my opinion, overwhelmingly likely to be innocent).

2) The problem with this one is that mafia essentially have a free shot at the doc every night, in the sense that they can always try to kill someone they think is the doc, because docs can't self-protect. I may be misunderstanding what you were trying to say here, though.

3) This is another case of me just not understanding what you mean, but apart from that, you seem to imply here that you knew Speedy was a townie, but still tried to convince the town to lynch him.

Then there was the episode at the start of this day were you seemed to be fishing for information that would benefit the mafia more than the town. Those are the reasons for my vote for you.

@ Dodgy: Which actions of mine did you find suspicious, specifically?

[Shamrock]

I think Dodgy's referring to your suspicions of Poirot - which are, I must admit, quite valid...

[BabyJesus]

why haven't we lynched Matjoeman yet?

[Dodgy]

I wasn't refering to you being suspicious Falcone,
I was refering to your suspicions of Poirot, like Shamrock pointed out.