Reckamonic's WoW Mafia (Over)

[Krazy]

LOL, I just realized that GreyICE WOULD be modkilled for posting the QT PM, because that would be blatant gamethrowing when it revealed the real CR.

Leaning toward 0% chance of GreyICE being the real CR, but now that substrike actually seems like a conceivable possibility for a CR in addition to Katsuki, I am less comfortable lynching Kats today (especially with GreyICE's extreme enthusiasm toward lynching Kats earlier today, which is one of the main reasons that I actually doubted Kats as CR. But maybe that was GI's wifom, which is why I've tried to ignore it. Ugh).

[Krazy]

Check it, we lynch GreyICE today and:

-if AGar is culted, it had to be last night, in which case there's no cult recruitment tonight anyway
-if Agar is not culted, and shoots Substrike, then unless it is Katsuki and EVERYONE ELSE (bunnylover, Arthas, and GreyICE) is already cult, and katsuki cults Agar, the cult, we will be looking at 4:3 tomorrow at WORST CASE SCENARIO at which point we can lynch Katsuki for instant win. [if bunnylover and Arthas are BOTH culted, well, then Kats cults Agar and we lose. This would be balls. But I don't think cult is THAT lucky]

I think there's a GOOD CHANCE we're looking at win-win here on a GreyICE lynch.

[Krazy]

Post 1 million in a row (sorry again):

Additionally, if Kats is not the CR, then Kats really did protect Agar last night, in which case he can't have been recruited last night anyway.

[InflatablePie]

C-C-COMBO BREAKER

So I had a crazy theory about Krazyscum, but I just realized something that kinda makes it close-to-impossible. Not to mention with that last posting spree... yeah.

Unless we know we can auto-win with the abilities we have, we shouldn't announce the NAs ahead of time. However, we know that Grey is culted at the LEAST (if not CL with risky as fuck WIFOM). So if we can survive until tomorrow with the abilities we have available, we should lynch Grey.

Still too sleepy to figure this stuff out right now though, so more after work.

[Reckamonic]

We'll probably edit that in the next version of our ruleset, but the concept of allowing you to quote your PM and not, for example, screenshot is, is that a PM can be faked, while a screenshot cant (well it cant, but there's a fucking limit to desperation I would hope)

For the same reason, quoting your QT link is STRICTLY forbidden, for the same reason.

[Arthas]

I like the GI lynch plan.

[Arthas]

on the one han
he's confirmed not recruiter
on the other hand
if we go for someone else we might lose so idk

[gandalf5166]

on the one han
he's confirmed not recruiter
on the other hand
if we go for someone else we might lose so idk

how is he confirmed not recruiter?

[Arthas]

nights 1 and 2

also, i have 4 posts in this thread
you have 13
post in the fucking hydra plz

[Arthas]

How about we lynch Kats, but follow the lynch GI plan with the obvious difference being that we roleblock Krazy or GI? The only problem is if SS is CR and AGar is culted.

[Arthas]

after that slew of psots
if krazy is scum i'm all for letting him have his well earned win

[Arthas]

after that slew of psots
if krazy is scum i'm all for letting him have his well earned win

True. Plus he'll probably have to recruit us tonight >.>

[Bunnylover]

Wow i can't believe I didn't realize that Katsuki never protected Substrike claimed horde doctor.
I'm still more in favor of GI then Katsuki, but I mean its pretty much neck and neck.

[Katsuki]

Oh my what's happened here.

Read through the first half of day, Krazy is most likely CR, with culted GI.

No time to post now, but read through GI's interactions with Krazy D5, and then today.
Also, Krazy all of a sudden learned how to play the game and post? I'm not buying it, looks like QT help to me.

I'll get a detailed case on Krazy up when I get the time to do so, but my activity lately has been shot, and I have tests coming up so...

[AKnottedRope]

I can definitely see krazy-CR

[Bunnylover]

Interesting that this game has become a standstill.
I'm more then positive that GreyIce is culted (CR i don't know, but at least part of the cult)
Reason why is because he actually didn't want to lynch Vezok and wanted Vezo dead.
I know other people agreed with him, but thinking about it, it was a pretty bad move.
Here is why:
Culted didn't lose anyone that night. If we would have lynch Vezo, Culted would have been down one person. Agar would get to shot whoever he wanted so the chances of Agar shooting the person the CR tried to recruit was possible, but slim. GreyIce made sure that the cult group kept the same number of people in their group.
To me this put GI in the culted area.

That makes unculted:
Agar
IP
Akr
Bunny (yes im including myself)

Culted:
GI

Unknown:
Arthas
Katsuki
Krazy
Substrike

For Agar to be unculted, that would mean Katsuki is town.
That makes unculted:
Agar
IP
Akr
Bunny (yes im including myself)
Katsuki


If we take the list of Culted and Unknown, the CR has to be in their somewhere. So:
Possible CR:
GI
Arthas
Krazy


Substrike can't be the CR. Its impossible. Unless the mod hates us lol. Why put an alliance cop, but no horde cop . Why even risk fake claiming that?
So that leaves
Possible CR:
GI
Arthas
Krazy
Krazy has been weird. He's been somewhat scummy throughout the came until today, where he's becoming the massive force of townish. Now if Arthas isn't the CR or wasn't recruited till last night, Krazy change of play makes sense. Realizing he can no longer win with just riding the coats, with the SK dieing (multi Sk so this could explain the extra kills) and Arthas Roleblocking) he realizes that he must direct the town into a mislynch.
I've explained GI.
Arthas roleblocking of Krazy is really the only thing I thought was weird. I don't really know, it just I couldn't eliminate him from the list.

So basically, what i'm saying is the list I posted way back in Day 2 is the list I'm still going on in Day 6.
If we want to survive this game, we lynch the people not under Unculted. I am more then guarantee that we will hit cult.
Agar will also keep shooting the people not under Unculted.
Basically we will be dealing more damage then the cult can fix, game over for them.

If we want to lynch the CR, I would lynch GI/Krazy/Arthas. In that order and I am also positive we will hit Katsuki.

[Arthas]

stop ibncluding us as possible CR

SATHORIS WAA TOWN
AND WE CONFIRMED OURSELVES AS A RBER ON HIM

STOP FUCKING NICLUDNG US AS A POSSBILE CR
fijafojadsiofjasofasf

[Bunnylover]

stop ibncluding us as possible CR

SATHORIS WAA TOWN
AND WE CONFIRMED OURSELVES AS A RBER ON HIM

STOP FUCKING NICLUDNG US AS A POSSBILE CR
fijafojadsiofjasofasf

Eh your like the 3rd possibility of been the CR, but thats just do to my own POE.
We don't know what kinda power the recruiter has. Thats the main reason I didn't move you to can't be CR.

[InflatablePie]

To me this put GI in the culted area.

...The whole "posting a cult leader role PM" didn't ping any radar? No? Okay.

[Bunnylover]

To me this put GI in the culted area.

...The whole "posting a cult leader role PM" didn't ping any radar? No? Okay.

lol, I'm still not sure rather to take that seriously or not.

[Krazy]

Agar being town does not in any, way, shape, or form suggest or in any way imply that Katsuki is town. If Katsuki is the CR, they would claim a protection on Agar because they haven't culted Agar yet.

Anyway, saying we lynch GreyIce today, and Agar successfully shoots Substrike tonight, we're looking at town auto-win, basically, even if you can't make up your mind between me and Katsuki.

If GreyIce is lynched today, and Substrike dies tonight, then we're at worst looking at:

Me OR Kats, + Arthas, Bunnylover, or Agar. Unless the CR has all three of Arthas, Bunnylover, and Agar at the start of tomorrow, we basically have town win (and I don't think it's possible for cult to have both Bunnylover and Agar right now regardless of who you think it is, or at least still not have an action to cult tonight).

At this point, we could lynch Arthas the next day, and then it will be:

Ipie + AKR + Kats/Krazy vs. Kats/Krazy + Agar/Bunnylover. Worst case scenario, draw. Best case, town auto-win continues. If this day we can lynch bunnylover, then that night cult can do nothing. Then we can lynch Agar, reducing the options for cult leader.

The endgame would then become: iPie + AKR + Kats/Krazy vs. Katz/Krazy. Here, we would have a free mislynch, so at this point we could lynch me, and town would still be able to lynch Kats, the real CR, the next day.

If we avoid lynching troll claims until endgame, then presuming either one of the two is town, and that Agar manages to kill Substrike tonight, we are looking at worst case scenario town draw, best case scenario town auto-win.

On the other hand, we could lynch the real CR (Kats), and be done today.

What's cool is, if I am CR, then I had to have culted Agar last night, in which case I can't do any bullshit power to save culteds due to reverse roleblock. This means that if Agar doesn't shoot tonight, we would have a 100% confirmation that Kats is the CR tomorrow.

Either way, it's pretty much town auto-win.

So, I'd be happy to hear from the real CR, as soon as they realize it's cult auto-loss if we actually coordinate night actions at all. Just saying.

[AGar]

Don't replace me. I slept all day. Sincere apologies.

[Bunnylover]

Oh I apologize, I meant to say that this is assuming when culted you keep your power.
So far Agar still has his power unless he was recruited last night (which if Katsuki is telling the truth about her role, means he wasn't), which in that means cult shouldn't be able to recruit tonight because he going to be Roleblocked.
Same theory goes for me if I was culted last night.
But at least were on the same page that right now, even though it doesn't look like it, town can pretty much auto-win.

[InflatablePie]

You know if this is true:
Mindless Sacrifice - The first time you would be killed at night, a member of your cult will be killed instead.

And this:
Might of the Scourge - This night if anyone attempts to kill you or a member of your cult it automatically fails.

Then we don't necessarily win if we try shooting CL/CR tonight. In fact, it'd be best to try shooting a recruit.


Now that this is my only active game, someone drag the alive-list-claim-list back up for me? I'm lazy. And confused.

[Krazy]

iPie, it's always on page 1, bro. Reck updates it like a baws.

If they use Might of the Scourge, they don't get a recruit that night. Also, if they recently tried to recruit either Bunnylover or Agar, they can't use either. Also, if they get roleblocked by Arthas, they probably won't be able to save their culteds/themselves. If they have an active ability tonight, and they use it as Might of the Scourge instead of a recruit, then we basically get the lynch on GreyICE today for free. That might not be auto-win, but it's still better than the situation today.