Choose Your Side: A Monument of Sins - Game Over!

[mb53]

You may have already posted this, but how do you regain AP?

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While I'm not entirely convinced that he isn't scum based on this claim, his claim is definitely capable of helping the town.

25 every town-sided lynch

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DOUBLE MY AP YOU BASTARD

Doesn't work like that. It works in the sense that the next AP gain you get is doubled.

Hence, the 50 AP I got from you, and me complaining that you had a secondary power that hit me?

Yeah, that was him. You said it yourself. You were the one who suggested it to me.

[DemonHybrid]

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, not because of LLD's logic, but because you can be useful and your flavor does read town. Contribute more in the future, please.

At first, I was like "What the hell is a Madoka".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Ranger: This ain't WIFOM. This is simple Intent read. There is no scum intent.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So, anyone up for lynching DH?

I'm down. Assuming MB53 is town (and I think he is now with that claim), DH's vote on him looks pretty bad.

Vote: DH

[UncertainKitten]

Just as capable as helping the scum, RotN. If not moreso with a couple lies. While he may well be Madoka, and we know he does double AP gain, we don't know other specifics that could seriously fuck us up. Rather, we don't have them independently confirmed. Namely, how much AP he has and how much it costs to use his ability. So, again, I'm not sure how this makes him worth sparing?

@LLD: Not necessarily. CSL was under a lot of suspicion throughout the day. As was mb. It's more or less WIFOM him targetting you. Probably precisely so he can avoid eating a lynch like so. Any other compelling arguments?

The fact that mb's NEXT POST uses the same argument really takes the wind out of those sails. It reads like he was planning EXACTLY what is happening now.

@DH: /me bangs her head against the wall.

THE FLAVOR THAT WE FUCKING CHOSE AT THE START OF THE GAME? YEAH, WE SURE CAN USE FLAVOR TO FIND THE SCUMS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

WHY ARE YOU ALL FUCKING FALLING FOR THIS SHIT!

@LLD: No, he's basically shown his intent was for you to go all soft on him.

[DemonHybrid]

Looking at mb's list makes me want to do my own, even though he's probable scum.

Scum:

Katsuki

mb53 (I liked CSL's early play. I do NOT like mb's; it's weak and hollow)

Espeonage
Benmage (lurk more)
UK (This is more of a lean scum read. REALLY iffy play after the me/Fate/Kat/her debate. Her point about me asking Kat for her reads makes absolutely no sense and seems to try to appeal to the players. I still have no clue what that knife business was about, but coming out of that argument, she acted EXTREMELY wishywashy.)


In the middle (third party probability, or just have no f'n clue):

Tragedy (Leaning scum, even with the resurrection ability)
Fate (leaning townish after that assassination attempt)
Zdenek (his claim makes me weary, or else I'd be 100% for his lynch)
Prana (he gives me strange vibes and seems to be passive with just about everything. TBQH, I don't like his katsuki jump)
Empking (scummy play, non-scummy ability claim)

Explicitly town:

LLD
Ranger


Parama has his own wincon:

Parama


I liked Ranger's nuke call-off.

Page 51.

[Parama]

Hmm.
I wonder where this will lead.

unvote, vote: UK

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is Page 57.

CSL was being pressured Page 10.

[DemonHybrid]

For the record, remember CSL's play. It was NOT that bad. When mb took the reins, he lurked the spot into the ground. There's just too much in common for it to be a fakeclaim.

[UncertainKitten]

Nowhere. Particularly without reasoning.

@LLD: And pretty much pressured on and off since page 10. How many times have we said "Oh, hey, mb/CSL need to die" How many?

@DH: Yes it was. CSL's early game was awful.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Look, I'm not using the flavor in why I think MB is town now. I am only saying his flavor isn't wrong (so he's not scum faking something).

The real reason I think he is town is because he targeted me with an AP+ ability... in the middle of me transacting abilities with Parama. Yes there is POTENTIAL wifom... but It's not enough for me to kill him today.

New target.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, Benmage is looking pretty bad. He's usually got more to say than this.

@Benmage: Who is scum?

[UncertainKitten]

Hmm...actually, he starts off fairly strong, but starts going off into pure noise. And then...goes back into content.

Hate to admit it, but rereading CSL's ISO shows I was wrong...though his late posting was pretty bad.

Ugh...let me ruminate over dinner.

@LLD: I know you aren't using flavor. DH was, which pissed me off.

[PranaDevil]

While he may well be Madoka, and we know he does double AP gain, we don't know other specifics that could seriously fuck us up. Rather, we don't have them independently confirmed. Namely, how much AP he has and how much it costs to use his ability. So, again, I'm not sure how this makes him worth sparing?

So you're trying to get him lynched without paying attention?

How often can you do this? Have you targeted anyone else?

It costs 50 AP, I started with 75.

Tragedy, why would I target you. You are scum (besides, I can't target you)

I'd say that answers your question there. Sure he could be lying, but why? For all he knows someone out there has a role that can tell them how much AP someone has, and he'd be stuffed then. The roles in this game seem a little strange so it wouldn't shock me.

So how much AP he has? 25 AP right now, using just basic maths.

How much does his ability cost? 50 AP.

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vote: UK

I'm really, really, not liking how you are so desperate to get mb lynched after the claim.

[UncertainKitten]

@PranaDevil: You clearly lack reading comprehension. I said

INDEPENDENTLY FUCKING CONFIRMED

. LEARN WHAT FUCKING WORDS MEAN, DIPSHIT. I mean confirmed by someone WHO'S NOT FUCKING MB.

The rest of your post is just opportunism.

[UncertainKitten]

There's also a shitton else wrong with your post, and really anyone voting me, but I'm sure if I point it out, it'll be called ~*~WIFOM~*~.

[RangeroftheNorth]

There's a shitton wrong with anyone voting you? Seriously?

[PranaDevil]

So... what you're saying is "Fuck claims", right? Because obviously anyone who makes a claim could be lying about some part of it to make it sound town, and therefore we shouldn't let any claim stand, and instead just lynch regardless, even if part of the claim can be provable to be right. That what you're saying?

You also have failed to take notice of the fact that, if mb is scum, why did he double LLD's AP? Why would he do that? What good does that do the rest of his scum team if he's scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait.

MB, what's your voting mechanic?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, and UK. Calm and concise points. If you're town, raging will do you no good. You know this from experience as much as I do.

[Parama]

If it was specifically from the transaction, then it's either something to do with you role or someone amplifying your AP regen.

Oh man, I iz geeenus.

[UncertainKitten]

Right now there is. And it should be obvious to anyone with a working brain. Particularly if they're using Prana's reasoning. Just try to think things through. I know it's hard for most of you, but I swear, it REALLY WORKS. Try to think about the situation, and I am certain you'll figure out why the people voting me are dumb at best, scum at worst. Excepting Parama who is third party.

@Prana:

PROVEN ROLE DOES NOT EQUAL PROVEN ALIGNMENT

So yes, I am more or less saying fuck claims. The only reason you ask for them is if, say, you've run up a cop and they have investigative results. Or a doctor and they have protects. Or other cases where the targets could be important. Are you REALLY this bad at this game? Do you not understand simple mafia theory?

Secondly, you want to get me lynched because you aren't paying attention?

Just as capable as helping the scum, RotN. If not moreso with a couple lies. While he may well be Madoka, and we know he does double AP gain, we don't know other specifics that could seriously fuck us up. Rather, we don't have them independently confirmed. Namely, how much AP he has and how much it costs to use his ability. So, again, I'm not sure how this makes him worth sparing?

@LLD: Not necessarily. CSL was under a lot of suspicion throughout the day. As was mb. It's more or less WIFOM him targetting you. Probably precisely so he can avoid eating a lynch like so. Any other compelling arguments?

The fact that mb's NEXT POST uses the same argument really takes the wind out of those sails. It reads like he was planning EXACTLY what is happening now.

@DH: /me bangs her head against the wall.

THE FLAVOR THAT WE FUCKING CHOSE AT THE START OF THE GAME? YEAH, WE SURE CAN USE FLAVOR TO FIND THE SCUMS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

WHY ARE YOU ALL FUCKING FALLING FOR THIS SHIT!

@LLD: No, he's basically shown his intent was for you to go all soft on him.

SHIT GUYS I TOTALLY NEVER SAID WHY MB WOULD TARGET LLD! MY BAD!

[UncertainKitten]

@LLD: Sorry, but I'm surrounded by dipshits who can't play mafia worth a fuck. Excuse me if I'm just a LITTLE angry at what SHIT these MORONS are trying to float.

[UncertainKitten]

...

LLD has it.