Reckamonic's WoW Mafia (Over)

[Krazy]

WHAT

YOU JUST CLAIMED ROLEBLOCKED

BUT YOU WEREN'T TARGETED BY MAGIC?

WHAT THE FUCK

[GreyICE]

I HAVE
NO FUCKING
CLUE

[Bunnylover]

I'll be unable to use my redirect tonight because I redirected bunnylover to himself (misread my RB information from the mod as "you were unable to use your action").

Can anyone explain what the hell Rayfrost was saying here and whether it relates to what actually happened last night or not.

Read the Tauren ability.

[GreyICE]

I've PMed the moderator to see if I can get my N1&2 actions again, and added a question about the Arcane shit for last night.

[Krazy]

Okay, caps-shock off, this pretty much leaves three options:

-GreyIce is lying, and is almost certainly culted/whatever.
-Arthas is un-trackable cult leader or something, certainly not whatever race he claimed
-Both are culted and are trying to force a mislynch between the two of them for a day 7 win. This would require our last vig to also be culted by now to work, I think.

Well, technically 4, if you include "mod error" but I'm going to go ahead and bracket that one off for now. If mod did error, he REALLY NEEDS to just say it in thread.

GreyIce, I'm pretty sure your predecessor claimed no results n1 and n2 and also targeted by magic... aka roleblocked by Arthas, iirc. (Please correct me if I'm wrong on this, haven't double checked yet)

[Krazy]

btw I know GreyIce's claim is exciting, but please finish saying night actions from last night people who haven't done so yet.

[GreyICE]

I have no idea. And I refuse to read the thread before I replaced in, as I said once I realized they lynched obvtown LLD and shot obvtown Fate I stopped caring right quick.

I'll tell you what the moderator says.

[Krazy]

Read the Tauren ability.

So, if he targeted you two nights ago, and you are still/ever were tauren, then it would have been impossible for him to redirect Arthas last night, that right?

@GreyIce, you don't need to read the thread (well, at least, not in this case), just iso Sathoris, it's iso #23.

[GreyICE]

Okay, magic was used on me nights 1 & 2.

And, if I paraphrase a bit and quote my role PM:

me, my character myself was most certainly not:

You will be

informed when a Mage, Warlock, Priest, Balance or Restoration Druid, Elemental or Restoration Shaman or Holy Priest targets you.

So I got nothing.

[Krazy]

Arthas, when you get back, which nights were you targeted by magic?

[Arthas]

WE HAVE NEVER BEEN TARGETED BY MAGIC

WE ROLEBLOCKED GREYICES SLOT NIGHTS 1 AND 2
HIS PREDESECOR CLAIMED BEFORE WE DiD
AND CLAIMED THAT

Vote: KRAZY

SO SCUMMY

[Bunnylover]

@Krazy: Correct. Anyone who targets me can not use his power, so Rayfrost could not redirect.

Right now I'm confused as to why we are still in this game if the recuriter can recruit ever night.

[Krazy]

Alright, please help me fill in the blanks. I'm tired of looking through half the thread to find what I want so this is going to be a monster reference post, sorry. Some of these ??? will be from lack of claim, others simply because I can't find it fast enough.

90% of the way through this I finally found substrike's shortlist... meh

Krazy's Claim -

Female Troll Ele Shaman

- Recruitment-Immune Semi-Compulsive Paranoid Gun Owner [Note: Has used his shot to kill Fate; claimed Bomb, not PGO upon fake daykill.]

Toog's Claim -

Female Draenei Enhance Shaman

- Slow-Dying Reflexive Doc [Note: Claims there was a flavor error; role PM says Doc, not Doctor.]

vezok's Claim -

Female BElf Blood DK

- Magic Aware Area of Effect Selective Lightning Rod [Note: Breadcrumbed Blood DK in the signup thread. Targeted AKR N1 and Bunny N2, was targeted both nights by magic.]

Sathoris' Claim -

Female BElf BM Hunter

- Magic Aware Tracker [Note: Active ability is missing a space. Targeted Benmage N1 and Fate N2, was targeted by magic both nights.]

Arthas' Claim -

Male BElf Frost Mage

- Magic Aware Roleblocker [Note: He targeted Sathoris both nights.]

Chrono's Claim -

Male Dwarf MM Hunter - Strongman Cycling JoaT

[Notes: Abilities are Roleblock/???/Vig; Killed shotty N1, roleblocked Benmage N2.]

Tragedy's Claim -

Male Human Protection Paladin

- Profiling Doc (Female only)

And here's LLD's claim

Substrike's Claim -

Male Human Holy Priest

- Profiling Horde Cop (detects Horde) - Note that Baby Spice was a

BElf Unholy DK - Magic Aware Alliance Cop

Quoting this for my own sanity in keeping track of claims.

Arthas (chesskid & gandalf)

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Arthas

. You are a

Male Blood Elf

.

Class: Frost Mage

Affiliation: Horde

You are a

Magic Aware Roleblocker

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Arcane Torrent

- Due to your personal affinity to the arcanes, you are aware when magic is used on you. You will be informed when a Mage, Warlock, Priest, Balance or Restoration Druid, Elemental or Restoration Shaman or Holy Priest targets you.

Active Abilities:

Cone of Cold

- Each time you may cast Cone of Cold on a player. He will be roleblocked for the night.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Horde!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

Guess why you got no results >_>

N1 - Sathoris/GreyIce
N2 - Sathoris/GreyIce
N3 - ???
N4 - ???
N5 - Krazy

Never targeted by magic.

Katsuki

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Katsuki

. You are a

Female Night Elf

.

Class: Arcane Mage

Affiliation: Alliance

You are a

Recruitment-Immune Recruitment Blocker

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Complete Tree-Hugger

- You are so obsessed with nature that nobody could ever twist your faith.

Active Abilities:

Arcane Tactic

- Each night, you may grant someone a sudden burst of insight. They will not be recruitable until the next night.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Alliance!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

N1: Starbuck
N2: Chrono
N3: Chrono
N4: ???
N5: ???

bunnylover

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Bunnylover

. You are a

Male Tauren

.

Class: Restoration Shaman

Affiliation: Horde

You are a

Reflexive-Roleblocking Area-of-Effect Doctor

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

War Stomp

- Due to your imposing stature and wild stomping, people who target you will spend their next night roleblocked.

Active Abilities:

Chain Heal

- Each night, you may cast Chain Heal on a player, protecting them and the players above and below their playerslot. They will be protected from one kill for the night.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Horde!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

Night 1: Targeted The Fonz which protected Baby Spice and Toog.
Night 2: Targeted Toog which protected The Fonz and Arthas, Vezo supposedly lightning rod me.
Night 3: Targeted AKR which protect Tragedy* and not sure if I protected Arthas. Keep meaning to ask the mod that.
Night 4: Targeted InflatablePie which protected..... [Rayfrost, confirmed town, claims a redirect here from bunnylover on to bunnylover]

Krazy

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Krazy

. You are a

Female Troll

.

Class: Elemental Shaman

Affiliation: Horde

You are a

Recruitment-Immune Semi-Compulsive Paranoid Gun Owner

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Da Voodoo Mon!

- You are so sunk in your own culture that you cannot be converted to any other cause.

Ligthning Shield

- You have three charges of your lightning shield. The first three people to target you during the game will die.

Active Abilities:

Earth Shock

- You may choose to vig, which will use up any remaining charges on your lightning shield.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Horde!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

N1: nothing
N2: shoots Fate
N3+ nothing

InflatablePie

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

InflatablePie

. You are a

Male Troll

.

Class: Frost Death Knight

Affiliation: Horde

You are a

Recruitment-Immune Mason

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Da Voodoo Mon!

- You are so sunk in your own culture that you cannot be converted to any other cause.

Neutral Territory

- You are a member of a small Azerothian group composed of InflatablePie, benmage and AKnottedRope. You know for a fact they have the same goal as you, to make Azeroth safe again. You can discuss with them at anytime.

Active Abilities:

None

-

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Horde!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

Mason Quicktopic: LOLNO
The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

Yes, the non-capitalization of "Benmage" is in the role PM. And like I said, I main a Frost DK in WoW.

Claims no night actions, iirc

Substrike22

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Substrike22

. You are a

Male Human

.

Class: Holy Priest

Affiliation: Alliance

You are a

Profiling Horde Cop

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Diplomacy

- Each night, you may pick a race to which you will be immune until the next night (this excludes vote, of course)

Active Abilities:

Holy Fire

- Each night, you may investigate someone. You will be informed whether they are a member of the Horde or not.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Alliance!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???

Sorry I just haven't sorted through this bit yet, I know you've claimed most of those.

AGar

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

AGar

. You are a

Male Tauren

.

Class: Arms Warrior

Affiliation: Horde

You are a

Reflexive-Roleblocking Male Vigilante

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

War Stomp

- Due to your imposing stature and wild stomping, people who target you will spend their next night roleblocked.

Active Abilities:

Mortal Strike

- Each night you may kill someone. But not a female. Females are delicate flowers.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Horde!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

N1: ???
N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???
N5: ???

I know you claimed Tragedy but I forget which night that was. What were the other claims?

GreyICE

replaced Sathoris N3

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Sathoris

. You are a

Female Blood Elf

.

Class: Beast Mastery Hunter

Affiliation: Horde

You are a

Magic Aware Tracker

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Arcane Torrent

- Due to your personal affinity to the arcanes, you are aware when magic is used on you. You will be informed when a Mage, Warlock, Priest, Balance or Restoration Druid, Elemental or Restoration Shaman or Holy Priest targets you.

Active Abilities:

Animal Handler

-Using your faithful pet, you can follow the tracks of a player. Each night you can target someone to know who they visited.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Horde!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

N1: Benmage (No result) [targeted by magic]
N2: fate (No result) [targeted by magic]
Night 3 - RayFrost Targeted no one
Night 4 - Gollum was a Worgen
Night 5 - No result. [NOT targeted by magic]

AKnottedRope

claims mason with iPie, never posted role PM, iirc. Uhm, did we ever get a race-claim though?

[Bunnylover]

I know Substrike investigated Vezo Night 3 or Night 2.
Akr never posted his pm.
We just need people to post all their actions.

[Substrike22]

I posted all my actions once but I'll do it again for convenience:
N1) iPie (Horde)
N2) Roleblocked from N1
N3) Vezok (Not Horde)
N4) Agar (Horde)
N5 (last night)) Roleblocked from investigating Agar

[Krazy]

Bunnylover, who did you target last night?

[GreyICE]

Are we sure votes on Krazy are a good thing right now? I agree he looks scummy, but who knows how close it is to LyLo. Arthas seems very certain he's scum.

[Krazy]

Arthas:
N3 - Tragedy block
N4 - Gollum block

GreyIce:
Night 3 - RayFrost Targeted no one
Night 4 - Gollum was a Worgen

The key here either way is going to be Night 4, I'm pretty sure. Have we now established who all killed who that particular night? If we know with certainty/high probability that Gollum did not voteblock/votekill N4, then that would be a 'clear' for Arthas outside of GreyIce, which would pretty much guarantee he's not CR and would make me feel a whole lot better about that playerslot. I'm thinking the risk here is that Gollum might have targeted the dead and that Arthas claimed he did Gollum and simply got lucky.

If Arthas is not CR, then that would pretty much confirm GreyIce as culted (probably on N4, since if Arthas is not CR) AND this would mean that GreyIce ALSO is not CR, since the N 1-2 actions and the reveal there would then be legit, rather than something cooked up in a QT.

This would guarantee GreyIce as culted, pretty much. This to me would suggest that GreyIce is basically finding a guilty on himself, trying to guarantee a lynch on him, which would in turn suggest that this is Cult MYLO, that there are exactly 3 culted and one cult leader, where if we lynch anyone other than the Cult Recruiter, we lose because tomorrow the Cult Recruiter would recruit again, at which point it would be 4:4.

IF all of the above is true, (I know, that's one GIGANTIC fucking IF), then FMPOV, I believe the Cult Recruiter has to be Katsuki, FMPOV, unless I made some sort of serious miscalculation on Bunnylover [we did pretty much guarantee Bunnylover really saved someone at some point, right?].

So Katsuki, hurry up with the night actions please

Now, scenario two: this scenario emerges if Arthas's roleblock of Gollum N4 is not a high-probability. This would continue to leave open the possibility that either Arthas or GreyIce is the cult recruiter, and that the twice-in-a-row roleblock on the same playerslot was just a coverstory cooked up in the QT sometime around N2 to protect each other, and that neither has really done anything since then. The problem with this scenario is GreyIce's N3 and N4--when those claims were made, would GreyIce have known the results beforehand? Do we know for sure that RayFrost targeted no one N3?

Scenario three: GreyIce is just a culted, Arthas is unculted, GreyIce was hoping that Arthas blocked him last night, but we're not at cult MYLO. Since he had no results, GreyIce thought he might as well claim roleblocked. If so, there might be any number of cult left, but we still don't gain anything from this lynch, since cult will just cult again tonight.

Scenario four: GreyIce is real, and Arthas is an untrackable Cult Recruiter. Hmmmm... impossible, due to N1-3. Also, see the last reason why scenario five is likely impossible. (GreyIce, I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this)

Scenario five: GreyIce is real, and Arthas is culted, but not the cult recruiter. He had no night action last night, since he's not the recruiter, and thus there was no result. Like scenario three, we would be downing a cult if we did this, but the cult recruiter would just cult again tonight and we don't really gain anything. Actually, though, once I thought of this scenario, it's started to seem a lot more probable to me. Actually, this would be pretty good, since it would CONFIRM Arthas is both culted and a cult recruiter, which would guarantee Arthas shouldn't be lynched today (since he's not recruiter), but then we would have a guaranteed scum lynch for tomorrow. In this scenario, Arthas's claim of RBing me after GreyIce claimed... has a very confusing motivation behind it. There's also the problem that wouldn't the result be: Arthas "visited no one" rather than no result? Maybe this scenario is also impossible. (GreyIce, I'd also like to hear your thoughts on this)

In almost any situation, based on all night actions combined, I fee like, FMPOV, the cult recruiter has to be between Katsuki, Arthas, and GreyIce.

Arthas: thoughts on Katsuki as Cult Recruiter, please.

Everyone else: I'm probably wrong about a lot in this post but it's where my thoughts have taken me so far. Please let me know if there's something big I'm missing here.

[Krazy]

Oh yeah, and scenario brainmelt: Cult recruiter has some bullshit roleblocking ability (but isn't a mage so he goes unnoticed by the magic aware herpaderp). If this is the case, just fuck me sideways please. In this fucked up pile of shit, Arthas really did roleblock me last night, and GreyIce really was roleblocked last night, but not by Arthas.

But if this is the case... uh, why the fuck haven't we heard about this ability before now?

I'd really like to just bracket this one off for now, which is why I didn't mention it before.

[Krazy]

EBWOP

Actually, this would be pretty good, since it would CONFIRM Arthas is both culted and

NOT

a cult recruiter, which would guarantee Arthas shouldn't be lynched today (since he's not recruiter), but then we would have a guaranteed scum lynch for tomorrow.

[AGar]

V/LA through Sunday. Be back on Monday.

[Reckamonic]

Just thought we should specify for those who don't know a lot about WoW and might freak out:
When we refer to Arthas in the flavor, we're referring to the character in the game.

[gandalf5166]

Krazy is definitely scum. Think about it: In order for cult to have not already won, we would have HAD to block the recruiter at some point. Otherwise there would be five cult right now. Now, we've blocked GreyICE and Krazy out of those still alive, IIRC(chess has been sending in most of the roleblocks), so one of them is DEFINITELY CR, and krazy is way scummier than GI.

[Arthas]

More reason we should lynch Krazy before GI: IF GI is recruiter(unlikely), then GI will have been roleblocked twice, so he wouldn't win if we mislynched today. whereas Krazy-recruiter would.

[GreyICE]

I don't know, Krazy makes some really good points up there. If you look at it, Katsuki as the cult recruiter makes a lot of sense. Her role doesn't match bunnylover's very well. She's uncultable. Is bunnylover unkillable? No. Is it fair to the cult that the cult can't recruit the recruit-doctor at all and the serial killer can kill the kill-doctor with no penalty?

The part about me being culted is total bullshit, I have NO IDEA what happened, but if I had to guess, Arthas was probably culted last night, so his roleblock didn't show up as being magic use from one of the classes I can detect because he's now a death knight in service to the Lich King. So he's pushing a mislynch on Krazy, whose pretty much obvtown here (just look at that post). Sure, he didn't look great yesterday, but whose looked great for this entire game? Pretty much no one. If the masons weren't masons, we'd suspect them from their gameplay.