Mini 1148 -- Spare Me Mafia (Game Over)

[Freewill]

All players need at least one spare vote to be spared,

but the more spare votes a player has, the less of a chance he stands at getting eliminated.

After one of these two events occur, the game will go into its twilight phase, and all players without votes are then

subject

to elimination.

I know, i know. Outguessing the mod, but:

I admit this is reading between the lines a bit, but it seems to me that the mod is indicating something less than everyone will be lynched at the deadline. I don't know, of course, but my point is kind of the same: neither does anyone else. In fact, I think I've got more to convince me that it won't happen that way than I do that it will. Might as well try asking though. The rules are unclear, and I don't know if that's by design or accident.

Mod: When the deadline is reached and the number of people saved is above the threshold, do all of the non-saved players get lynched?

They're gone unless the player has a role condition or faces a role action that would otherwise prevent them from being eliminated.

[Fate]

Its clearly in the OP you fuckin scumbag. Scared much?

[Freewill]

Its clearly in the OP you fuckin scumbag. Scared much?

1. You ignored IS's points

2. Then show me where it says it.

[Internet Stranger]

I havent made any new points. (CK is scum).
Fate is only ignoring my taunts.

[Freewill]

that's what i meant

[Umbrage]

Fate, all your DIE SCUM DIE isn't going to do anything, sorry. Freewill's fate will be the same as chesskid3's. Get your goons to kill me if you want, you'll just waste time and townies.

You want Freewill dead? You just gotta do one little thing...

[Freewill]

Also get him to answer where exactly it "clearly" says it in the OP while you're at it, Umbrage.

[Klazam]

I'm on the lynchblock again. what's your case on me?

[Umbrage]

Also get him to answer where exactly it "clearly" says it in the OP while you're at it, Umbrage.

Yeah, because we have such a good relationship...

[Freewill]

meh. maybe not. he should still answer it or admit he was wrong. The point is, people keep assuming three will die today at the lynch, but I don't think that's something we can safely assume. The rules indicate otherwise... why would they say "subject to elimination" rather than "eliminated," for example? What would the purpose behind the rule of more votes, less chance to get eliminated?

This isn't meant to be a trivial point. I think scum may have been willing to push this idea that we get three lynches because they may have some influence over who actually gets eliminated.

[Freewill]

Besides, I find it very weird that the setup is DESIGNED to make us wait until the deadline to play optimally.

[TonyMontana]

Look, there's just a tad bit too much Tony on the line here.

There surely are better ways to fill a lynch. Like with the Apok/Vezok/Umbrage trio, for instance.

[Fate]

That trio doesn't include Free Will.

WTFMAN

[Fate]

. During the first day, there's a safety threshold of 75%. This means that 75% of the living players must be spared before going into the night phase. This safety threshold will be lowered by at least 5% everyday.

AKA PRETTY CLEAR THAT IF 75% HAVE TO LIVE THEN 25% GET TO FUCKIN DIE.

YEAH IS YOUR TAUNTS DONT PHASE ME. SO IM OUT OF WITTICIMS BECAUSE IT WAS LATE AND DERP.

UMBRAGE, I WANT CHESSKID DEAD TO KILL FREE WILL, WHERES MY SPARE VOTE EVEN AT?

[Fate]

ITS ON IS

THATS WHAT I FUCKIN THOUGHT.

NOW UNSPARE FREE WILL, AND ARGUE WITH DUPLICITY AND KLAZAM.

IM NOT THE ONE FUCKIN KEEPIN HIM ALIVE

[Internet Stranger]

Damn Umbrage, Fate just called you a bitch.

[Umbrage]

I'm on the lynchblock again. what's your case on me?

Keeping confirmed scum alive. I'd say that's enough logic from me.

Unspare

SO! Who's going to be the lucky one to get my spare vote? Klazam? Duplicity? First one to kill scum gets the prize!

[Umbrage]

Oh wait, Dupe's already spared by his scumbuddy. Oh well. KLAZAM, COME ON UP HERE AND CLAIM YOUR PRIZE!!!

[Freewill]

. During the first day, there's a safety threshold of 75%. This means that 75% of the living players must be spared before going into the night phase. This safety threshold will be lowered by at least 5% everyday.

AKA PRETTY CLEAR THAT IF 75% HAVE TO LIVE THEN 25% GET TO FUCKIN DIE.

YEAH IS YOUR TAUNTS DONT PHASE ME. SO IM OUT OF WITTICIMS BECAUSE IT WAS LATE AND DERP.

UMBRAGE, I WANT CHESSKID DEAD TO KILL FREE WILL, WHERES MY SPARE VOTE EVEN AT?

Nowhere in that does it say that all of those unsaved will be eliminated.

[Fate]

So what will thye be?


IF they aren't SPARED, then they die.

COMMON FUCKIN SENSE

[Freewill]

To elaborate... your logic is flawed, Fate. Just because A=1 doesn't mean that Not A is not 1. Here, just because 75% are "saved" doesn't mean that 25% are eliminated. In fact, the rules suggest otherwise.

[Freewill]

So what will thye be?


IF they aren't SPARED, then they die.

COMMON FUCKIN SENSE

If they aren't spared they are SUBJECT TO ELIMINATION, just like the rules say. What that entails is unclear. It could be that mafia have a say in it. It could mean that one person is randomly selected from those players. It could mean that all are eliminated, I just don't know. And neither do you.

[Fate]

I do know.

Unless your scum Role PM tells you differently.

[Internet Stranger]

Damn, Freewill, dont give up. Fate is slapping you around, but dont let him get you down. You can do it Freewill! Do it!

[Klazam]

Umbrage: I do not understand your logic for refusing to allow a vig to live one night to see whether he has a real power or not.