Mini 1148 -- Spare Me Mafia (Game Over)

[Duplicity]

Internet Stranger - I discussed Umbrages 'Good point', and there's a gapping flaw in it being it all gets removed with the inclusion of a doctor in the setup, which is highly likely considering the role you've claimed yourself. He even took a second to step back to reconsider his position, then for some reason decided it was time to start yelling and screaming instead of dicussing it again.

Nachos really dropping the ball in this game - I suggest he either catch up or replace out, same to TheMask.

[Internet Stranger]

The problem with a doctor is that regardless of a doctor existing, CK was forced to claim. Meaning that essentially the mod is dictating how this game needs to go through the setup. Otherwise, CK stays quiet, doesnt get the survivor vote and his super duper mega role (vig, governor and whatever else decided to add into it) is essentially a big waste, completely throwing off game balance.

Anyways, there isnt much more I can say at this point. CK is scum and im suspicious of Tony.

[Apokalyptika]

I would like to draw everyone's attention to The Mask's post 172, in which he says Umbrage and Duplicity should be eliminated for setup speculation, then in the very same post speculates that CK3 and Fishy are on the same team due to balancing votes or some such nonsense. Also, he claims no role related reason to know if chess/fishy are town or scum and has stated no personal opinion as to their alignments. It's the very definition of IIoA, and to make it worse, it's the only post he's made that even vaguely contains content. There is no reason whatsoever that he should live past today. This post slightly inclines me to the belief that chess and Fishy are in fact on different teams, and if I had to pick one to be scum I'd incline towards chess.

Nacho

, when you come back, I'd like you to address your sparing of Mask and your opinion of his sparing you.

In other news, I feel there's something very fishy with Tony's sparing Fishy, but I don't know what.

[Nachomamma8]

It's a policy spare.
Mask is not the type of player you let die on D1.

[Fate]

OH SO YOU ARE HERE NACHO?

[Nachomamma8]

yeah i'm just chillin though

[Fate]

K.

You agree Free Will has to die right?

What about CK?

[Apokalyptika]

...Ok, most unsatisfactory answer ever. So you think Mask is a policy spare even though his one post of substance has been thoroughly scummy? What are your other reads? Again, what do you think of him sparing you?

[Nachomamma8]

Freewill has to die, yeah. I was hoping he would perish through the fire and the flames, but a quiet strangling is alright too, I suppose.
CK is either going to shoot some scum with that crackheaded gut of his, draw the NK, or draw the RBer. All very good things.


Mask sparing me is good. Why would I disapprove of a save on town?
I don't think his one post of substance has been thoroughly scummy.

[chesskid3]

itt everyone admires ck's gut >_>

[Freewill]

Freewill has to die, yeah. I was hoping he would perish through the fire and the flames, but a quiet strangling is alright too, I suppose.
CK is either going to shoot some scum with that crackheaded gut of his, draw the NK, or draw the RBer. All very good things.


Mask sparing me is good. Why would I disapprove of a save on town?
I don't think his one post of substance has been thoroughly scummy.

Justify yourself then. Why do you feel strongly about me dying? I'm okay with dying, but I don't want to do so without making you say something other than nothingness bluster. Nacho ain't being honest here.

And I think Tony is scum.

Someone mentioned why I haven't taken my vote off of vezok. I guess there's no real reason except that those who I'd prefer stay alive over vezok are all safe already. That's the difficulty with the setup: there will be people who have to vote their fourth worst scum read or whatever.

[Umbrage]

Internet Stranger - I discussed Umbrages 'Good point', and there's a gapping flaw in it being it all gets removed with the inclusion of a doctor in the setup, which is highly likely considering the role you've claimed yourself. He even took a second to step back to reconsider his position, then for some reason decided it was time to start yelling and screaming instead of dicussing it again.

Nachos really dropping the ball in this game - I suggest he either catch up or replace out, same to TheMask.

NOPE. IT'S STILL BROKEN.

A DOC PRODUCES A FOLLOW-THE-COP SCENARIO.

STILL NO WAY CK3 CAN BE TOWN, BUT KEEP TRYING.

[Umbrage]

AND I NOTICE FATE'S TOO STUPID/CHICKEN/WHATEVER TO TRY AND CHALLENGE MY LOGIC.

[Fate]

Your logic is pretty good.

The holes are as follows:

RC made an imperfect set-up that didn't fully account for the implications of Chesskid's role and how it would need to claim.
RC predicted that sicne Fishy didnt need a save vote giving one to the Vig who would NOT have to fullclaim D1, just softclaim he needs a new vote.

Since he is softclaimed, scum have to wonder whether to RB him or not (Said RB's existence NOT YET proven), or whether to kill him or not (fear of Doc)

Or whatever.

The day play is this:

And LOL AT FREEWILLS LATEST GEM-
TM is his scumread? His vote on vezok is there jus cuz? Jus cuz he wants to frame Vezok after he flips scum?

yeah ok lol

[Freewill]

your attempts to tunnel on me are reading lamer and lamer, Fate. My only problem is that I don't know if that's because you're scum with what you think is a good reason to go after me without attracting attention or if it's because you've convinced yourself that I'm scum because I'm your polar opposite. Because really, you can't understand the reasoning behind my vote behind vezok when I just explained it? Does this need to be in caps for you to understand it?

MY CHOICE IS BETWEEN VEZOK, DUPLICITY, APOK GAND TONYMONTANA. IS IT REALLY THIS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO GET IT? REALLY SO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I WOULD PREFER VEZOK TO DUPLICITY AND TM? IT'S NOT LIKE I GET TO CHOOSE BETWEEN VEZOK AND INTERNET STRANGER OR SOMETHING. YOU NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT HOW THIS SETUP WORKS AND THE IMPLICATIONS THAT HAS ON SCUMHUNTING.

Get it now?

[Fate]

OH LOOK

FENCE SIT ON MY ALIGNMENT

DERPHERPATEHEEEEEEEEE

WHY DO YOU PREFER VEZOK TO DUPLIC? MAKES NO SENSE

OHWAITURSCUM

[Freewill]

OH LOOK

FENCE SIT ON MY ALIGNMENT

DERPHERPATEHEEEEEEEEE

WHY DO YOU PREFER VEZOK TO DUPLIC? MAKES NO SENSE

OHWAITURSCUM

I prefer vezok to duplic because vezok reads earnest if extremely annoying, and to me that's actually a fairly good town tell.

[Fishythefish]

Possible V/LA: Thursday to Saturday this week

Not sure whether I'll have internet.

Noted

[RedCoyote]

The Mask informed me he'll be V/LA until Tuesday

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Vote Count 1.7

• Internet Stranger

  (2) (Apokalyptika - Fate)

  
  chesskid3

  (2) (Klazam - Duplicity)

  
  Fate

  (1) (vezokpiraka)

  
  Umbrage

  (1) (Internet Stranger)

  
  vezokpiraka

  (1) (Freewill)

  
  The Mask

  (1) (Nachomamma8)

  
  Nachomamma8

  (1) (The Mask)

  
  Freewill

  (1) (Umbrage)

  
  FishytheFish

  (1) (TonyMontana)

  
  Duplicity

  (1) (chesskid3)
  
  
  Not Voting
  (1) (FishytheFish)
  
  
  No Safe Votes
  (3) (Apokalyptika - TonyMontana - Klazam)

Percentage Safe:

77%

of 75% necessary

With thirteen alive, it takes twelve safe to end the day before the deadline.
Current Deadline: Apr. 17th, 2011 at 3:00 PM (CST)

[TonyMontana]

unspare:fishy

Fine with that reply.

So is this where I beg for spare change?

[Umbrage]

RC made an imperfect set-up that didn't fully account for the implications of Chesskid's role and how it would need to claim.
RC predicted that sicne Fishy didnt need a save vote giving one to the Vig who would NOT have to fullclaim D1, just softclaim he needs a new vote.

Since he is softclaimed, scum have to wonder whether to RB him or not (Said RB's existence NOT YET proven), or whether to kill him or not (fear of Doc)

1) And this imperfect set-up somehow found it's way past set-up review?
2) Having an extra save vote at the end of the day =/= I THINK I'LL SPARE CK3 AGAIN FOR LULZ!!!

[Internet Stranger]

5 more days to go!

Im not seeing enough witty banter from Fate. Wow, Umbrage cant possibly be spanking him in the ass and making Fate his bitch. Nah, no way!

Say it aint so Fate!

[Freewill]

Question for everyone: do you really expect three people to die from today's lynch?

[Internet Stranger]

Since I have to wait until the 17th, three people better die!

[Fishythefish]

Question for everyone: do you really expect three people to die from today's lynch?

I'd like them to, and I don't see why not.