Cowboy Bebop Remix [Endgame]

[GreyICE]

It really fucking is. I have no idea why I'm still alive.

It doesn't change the fact I'm confirmed town. You left AGM alive for EXACTLY that WIFOM brotherhood, you know that its valuable.

[GreyICE]

And you left AGM alive for exactly that WIFOM.

I have a huge town read on you. That's a good enough reason to leave me alive if I'm leading MISLYNCHES not lynches.

Toasty AND Jahudo were mislynches, at least if I think Toasty thought he was hammered, and I do.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And you left AGM alive for exactly that WIFOM.

I have a huge town read on you. That's a good enough reason to leave me alive if I'm leading MISLYNCHES not lynches.

Toasty AND Jahudo were mislynches, at least if I think Toasty thought he was hammered, and I do.

Not quite. I left AGM alive in Brotherhood for his killing ability.

Honestly, if I could have avoided the 3 person lylo with a confirmed town, I would have. I would have preferred to have UT, Spyrex and Myself there.

But AGM has the kill, and AGM was confirmed town. So he had to come with me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would have killed you right after Vi died if I was scum.

[GreyICE]

WIFOM

Damn it.

If it's not toasty and it's not Jahudo, WHO THE FUCK IS IT?

[GreyICE]

Players

Cogito Ergo Sum
Rhinox
Lady Lambdadelta
GreyICE
ToastyToast
Kdub
AlmasterGM

Rhinox is obvtown imho. Toasty is town. Assume I trust my town read on you LLD.

Kdub? AlmasterGM? CES?

Hmmm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WIFOM

Damn it.

If it's not toasty and it's not Jahudo, WHO THE FUCK IS IT?

Let's assume for the moment that I don't think it is you.

Of the remaining 4 players (Rhinox,Kdub,CES,AGM) the only viable pair I see is Kdub and Rhinox.

Of course, I still am of the opinion that you are scum with Rhinox or AGM (And heaven help me if CES is scum, because I'm trusting UK on this).

But I can see a Kdub/Rhinox scum team...

P-Edit: Did we just do the same thing? XD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmmmm.....

Jahudo flipping town also lends to Kdub!scum... I guess.

I still can't shake you being ALIVE dammit.

[ToastyToast]

GreyICE could've killed me in seconds, and yet he went on a very long internal-argument on whether or not I was scum. I could've been dead much early. Where is the scum motivation in that?

And wait a sec, LLD, NOW you are bringing up the "ex-lover" argument? NOW you are saying GreyICE isn't confirmed town. Didn't I say that and it was written off as scummy? The fact that when I say GreyICE is confirmed town I get a "dumb and scum" read and the fact that you then take one of my reasons for suspecting GreyICE as one of your own when people move away from my lynch is quite odd.

When Jahudo flipped town I first yelled at my computer and said "I TOLD YOU SO" and then I raged. Afterwards, I figured at least one scum would have to be on the Jahudo wagon. Rhinox's unwillingness to hammer Jahudo becomes a town read.

So, my Jahudo wagon suspects ultimately came down to LLD and CES. LLD was already low on my list, and Rhinox has already pointed out your strange shifts and stances. You say you changed because of the whole deadline lynch thing. But even amongst that you say things like "can we lynch rhinox instead?" and "I'm only lynching Jahudo or Toasty"--both things that would delay the lynch. And I was L-1, so saying you had to make a quick decision and voted Jahudo is BS.

[ToastyToast]

EBWOP: When I say GreyICE ISN'T confirmed town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GreyICE could've killed me in seconds, and yet he went on a very long internal-argument on whether or not I was scum. I could've been dead much early. Where is the scum motivation in that?

And wait a sec, LLD, NOW you are bringing up the "ex-lover" argument? NOW you are saying GreyICE isn't confirmed town. Didn't I say that and it was written off as scummy? The fact that when I say GreyICE is confirmed town I get a "dumb and scum" read and the fact that you then take one of my reasons for suspecting GreyICE as one of your own when people move away from my lynch is quite odd.

When Jahudo flipped town I first yelled at my computer and said "I TOLD YOU SO" and then I raged. Afterwards, I figured at least one scum would have to be on the Jahudo wagon. Rhinox's unwillingness to hammer Jahudo becomes a town read.

So, my Jahudo wagon suspects ultimately came down to LLD and CES. LLD was already low on my list, and Rhinox has already pointed out your strange shifts and stances. You say you changed because of the whole deadline lynch thing. But even amongst that you say things like "can we lynch rhinox instead?" and "I'm only lynching Jahudo or Toasty"--both things that would delay the lynch.

And I was L-1, so saying you had to make a quick decision and voted Jahudo is BS.

@Bolded: You're stupid. You were confirmed town the moment you thought you were lynched and acted town.

Lynching you wasn't an option anymore because you were town.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He's not confirmed town.

Seriously though, mass claim?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He's not confirmed town.

Seriously though, mass claim?

Do you think we still have a mislynch? 2 scum left?

If so, should we wait until if/when we hit lylo for a massclaim?

[ToastyToast]

It's not AGM time.

I want you or Jahudo to flip.

And your reaction to being "hammered" lowers you on my list.

Unvote: Vote: Jahudo

Even with your apparent change in read, you said it was between me or Jahudo. Still leaving the option open, eh?
And, in all honesty, I don't think my reactions to being "hammered" warrant an auto-matic switch to a town-read.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's not AGM time.

I want you or Jahudo to flip.

And your reaction to being "hammered" lowers you on my list.

Unvote: Vote: Jahudo

Even with your apparent change in read, you said it was between me or Jahudo. Still leaving the option open, eh?
And, in all honesty, I don't think my reactions to being "hammered" warrant an auto-matic switch to a town-read.

Read the third line.

[ToastyToast]

I did, even commented on it in my post. REGARDLESS, YOU WERE STILL OK WITH MY FLIP. If you thought I was town, that shouldn't be there.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I did, even commented on it in my post. REGARDLESS, YOU WERE STILL OK WITH MY FLIP. If you thought I was town, that shouldn't be there.

Any flip is better than no flip.

Only you and Jahudo were in range, due to who was online.

I also wanted Rhinox, but not enough people were online.

[AlmasterGM]

wtf is going on in here.

I'm behind on a lot of stuff, but I've got lots to say so everyone calm the fuck down and stop making bad arguments (THIS MEANS YOU LLD)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

He's not confirmed town.

Seriously though, mass claim?

Do you think we still have a mislynch? 2 scum left?

If so, should we wait until if/when we hit lylo for a massclaim?

I'd rather mass claim the day before so that we get at least one Night to disprove their claims.

[ToastyToast]

I agree with CES, I say massclaim

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He's not confirmed town.

Seriously though, mass claim?

Do you think we still have a mislynch? 2 scum left?

If so, should we wait until if/when we hit lylo for a massclaim?

I'd rather mass claim the day before so that we get at least one Night to disprove their claims.

I'll agree to that actually.

But let AGM say his shit, and then we will popcorn.

[Rhinox]

@LLD: another thing to consider... If greyICE is scum, why does he kill AT and not you? At the end of D3 you did ask, "Why are you confirmed town again?" And as you yourself point out, AT has been pretty much a non-entity all game. But everyone has been calling you and him pretty much the same amount of town, so in this situation of the 2, greyscum would rather NK the one more likely to turn on him I think.

So why AT? Look who he had a case for... Reck/AGM. ICE was loving him some AGM yesterday. LLD was mostly out of the picture for 90% of the day. If anyone had motive to kill AT over ICE, it was AGM. Get rid of the immediate threat, ICE was not looking in his direction, so could be spared another day.

Vote:AGM

nk analysis FTW

[GreyICE]

Here's where I am.

Toasty - town. I think the "post hammer" behavior combined with his general demeanor yesterday suggests strongly he's town.
Rhinox - town. I can't find a motive for scum-Rhinox to focus on one word in a fakeclaim PM. It makes no sense to me. If anything scum-Rhinox wouldn't want attention drawn to his fakeclaim if it was different from the real claim in any way. He might mention it offhand, but to obsess over it? No.
kdub - I want more input nowish, but running off day 1, he was town like hell.

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CES - I have a town read.
LLD - Town read
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AGM - again, town read.

You see my issue, I assume. But one thing has been bugging me, and that was Vi. If I had to characterize one thing about Vi's behavior day 1, it would be nervous. Why? Can't be me. Vi barely knows me, barely knows my games, and me flicking a few bricks her way would NOT cause any discomfort me thinks. One of her scumbuddies was making her hella uncomfortable. And Vi never really commented on the LLD wagon, except to finally sheepishly agree LLD was town.

In other words, I think one of Vi's scumbuddies was making Vi hella nervous. That says a HIGHLY unconventional scumgame.

That's LLD or CES. Of the two, I'm fairly sure I'm getting better at reading LLD. And I'm good at reading Vi apparently (NYAH TO KITTENS).

Vi reads like LLD was a scumbuddy. Vi reads like CES was a landmine that would blow off a leg.

[GreyICE]

But anyway, AGM is in a slot that is basically lurker fodder. Two flakes. Reckoner's 'analysis' on Toasty is (if toasty is town) the lamest thing EVER.

Popcorn: AGM

GET IN HERE AND CLAIM, CLAIMING IS HANGOVER MEDICATION

[Kdub]

I'm back, will catch up and post tonight.