Um, not exactly random was that? Second vote on me very soon.Akonas wrote:Random vote: Nemisisfor ummm...being last.
Sure, good luck.And Nemesis, I hereby challene you to a Duel. As a 3rd win condition for each of us, we must be closer to the middle of our respective lists (of alive/dead) at the end of the game than the other person.
Why good job? Why if you like the bandwagon so much are you voting for someone with 0 other votes?Good job people on the pie is good bandwagon.
A couple of small things, the first I've mentioned, The second is you praise Akonas for doing exactly what Pie did... The only difference is the momentum is now against Pie when before there was hardly any momentum.Good job people on the pie is good bandwagon.
Actually, this is mostly Akonas, because your vote is not random. It is for pie for voting for somebody with votes.
We have yet to get halfway to a lynch. That's not bandwagoning right now.
Saying good job for reasons agreed with by many people is a bit risky if you think your words will somehow be noticed as sarcasm but all theirs won't. You are in favour of early bandwagons and it was an early bandwagon... You singled out one person as well which actually made me think you were serious.Your sarcasm detector is broken.
You said good job etc, then singled someone out, if you hadn't have worded your post as you did then you wouldn't have come across serious. I also want to add that if everything could be explained away with such an easy excuse then this game would suck as you'd have to spend time to guess whether or not someone was being serious.In the context of my post, did you really think I was serious when you were reading it?
Akonas didn't unvote. Or did I miss it?Pie is Good - 2 (Tyfo, Bertrand)
Thok - 1 (Vitamin R)
Bertrand - 3 (StevieT92, Fuldu, Pie is Good)
Fuldu - 1 (Diedraphoenix)
Tyfo - 1 (TSAGod)
TSAGod - 4 (Nemesis, Thok, Adele, Akonas)
Not voting: None.
Your votes made the bandwagons serious and a vote or two added on to yours would make people claim... You say you have no good reason to bandwagon people but the main bandwagons so far have had you on them.Akonas wrote:Well, I didn't see them making a whole lot of impact towards a lynch, and at the beginning we really have no good reason to bandwagon anyone.
He isn't saying all n00bs are scum or the Road to Rome would have a lot of very quick games... He said you are acting dumb and I was just asking you if you were acting. I don't know how someone can misunderstand what he said unless they were trying...You must be innocent because you have much more experience than me.
Pie was a sheep, TSAGod had the weird reason. 3 potential lynchs, I'd rather go for Bertrand out of the three but I am in no hurry to vote.As of now, though, I'm not sure if I want to vote bertrand for that or vote Pie for placing a vote on the basis of an inapplicable argument.
You are Marten Reed, the introverted indie from Questionable Content. You don't think you have any special powers, but you don't like the idea of bad webcomic characters taking over and so have fired up Pintsize and commanded him to look up various webcomics.
Each night you may tell Pintsize to check up any one character's attitude. You do this by PMing me their name. I will PM you back telling you what Pintsize thinks of them - in other words, whether they are basically pro-town or not.
Confirm by PM, along with your first night choice and any questions you may have.
Minor victory condition: Have the town win.
Major victory condition: Find two pro-town people via Pintsize.
PintSize doesn't like [name editted out] at all. He thinks [gender editted out] is a wimp and a moron and not worth anything, and feels that everyone would be better off without [gender editted out].
You conclude [name editted out] must be a good guy.
Pintsize's opinions of Bertrand are rather uncertain. You can't figure out whether he's a good guy or a bad guy.
Well Bertrand doesn't look 100% clean and doesn't seem like bad lynch material. This may end the cult debate and all that stuff, also if I find scum again it'd be better to have lynched someone who isn't a townie through and through than to have lynched a townie and have Bertrand still running around doing God knows what.It seems really early to be claiming cop, especially when you don't have some really handy info for our perusal...
We may have a backup cop but I think we are far more likely to have an insane cop, I have had 2 different results so I'm sane. I think it's fairly easy to find out if I am a cop or if I'm scum... Lynch Bertrand, if he's a vanilla townie then I should have known that and am insane or scum... If he's regular scum then I should have known that but as I found scum I deserve another chance... Then the second result you use to determine a lynch proves it one way or the other. (There probably is a very small chance that the SK is NKed and I give 2 mafia names which would leave me as potential mafia knowing all the remaining people are town, but we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.)although they'd have at least 2 innocent results to present, which I guess is better than nothing... what do other people think of this (without claiming)?
It doesn't garantee a loss... But if I know 3 people are innocent today and 4 people tomorrow then the people that I know are innocent will outnumber the people who I don't know and that will increase our chances of winning... On the other hand, if tomorrow we wake up to find one of the people I know are innocent is dead then we will have less chance because the known innocents wouldn't outnumber the unknown for a while.2. I still don't understand how claiming two innocents guarantees the town a loss, even including a three person mafia with godfather, and the two innocents being the gf and a doctor, quite possible the worst case scenario. I also am unsure how the town has a guaranteed win, as well. We still have to find all the scum.
I don't want to tell the scum who to kill...How does that work? If you die tonight because of a sucky doc, then we know nothing?
Sorry, I thought that was what we were going to do... Assuming of course you don't bandwagon everyone in one day.Adele wrote:I'm personally waiting on, like, a single comment on the plan I suggested (post 246, I think). Wouldn't this give us the benefits of Nemesis' info without the downsides?
I don't think it was suggested that we should bandwagon random people, I'm fairly sure the current bandwagon has some reasoning behind it.Bandwagoning purely to get a reaction doesn't work if you set out to do this, because scum will know that is the intention and will remain calm. Unless there is threat (the lynch) behind the wagon, we can't rely deduce much from the reaction. Which I think is hard to do anyway.
I'd prefer to go on suspicions, even if it is hard to do without an abundance of information.
Fuldu wrote:I'm not suggesting that you're lying. I suppose it's possible that you're male scum, hoping he'll target you so your female partners won't be, but that doesn't seem like a winning strategy since you'd only get away with it for one night.
But if you're telling the truth, why do you care about his major WC? Coming out as femalefor his benefitis a disingenuous argument, because you have no reason to help him achieve that goal. If, on the other hand, we assume that you came out as femalefor your own benefit, then the question is: who is best served by that gender claim? A female vanilla townie wouldn't care one way or the other. A female town power role wouldn't want to be roleblocked, but even more than that wouldn't want to be publically known as a power role. But female scum wouldn't want to be roleblocked and wouldn't mind being thought of as a town power role. And so I vote.
Why are you so sure there are vanilla townies?Pro-town power roles will do better by remaining hidden and hoping not to be roleblocked than they will by coming out and asking not to be roleblocked.
Sorry, I read Thok's post as if they are female they get roleblocked, if they are male they get invesitgated...Fuldu wrote:But why would anyone lie about their gender? If a player is male, Thok can't block them, so male scum don't care if he targets them, provided they don't lie about their gender. And if a player is female, Thok is less likely to target them for a roleblock if he knows that they're female, so female scumNemesis wrote:I only see it as if a person who claims to be male is roleblocked then it will help us know who is lying... I think it helps as long as Thok is willing to risk his major a couple of times.wantThok to know that they're female.
How does the cop part work?I'm a partial cop/roleblocker.
He lied. The blackmage never wants to change his ways.Am I the only who's trying to count Thok's ostensible win conditions and coming up with more than two?
I am one of the few who have claimed and can understand you doing that. But IMO there wasn't really a huge need to do that as when I came out I came out by saying someone wasn't clear scum or town. There's no way scum would have known the identity of the SK so I don't think there was much chance of me being scum... But then again, I'm me so I don't see how you guys can look at it.So I targeted Nemesis last night. He's male (which is consistent with his Martin Reed claim).
Ok, can a couple of people post their thoughts on this please, in case there's something I (and possibly Fuldu) missed please?I think it makes better sense to start with the three players you don't have an innocent result on. Since they're far more likely to be scum, I'd rather put the onus of coming up with an early roleclaim on them.
I was looking for a reason, that isn't specific enough.I think it will be bad for town
PintSize doesn't like Fuldu at all. He thinks he's a wimp and a moron and not worth anything, and feels that everyone would be better off without him.
You conclude Fuldu must be a good guy.
Adele isn't what Pintsize expected; in fact, he's rather annoyed at how nice she is.
Adele is innocent.
Coron is... Well, pretty tough to describe. Strange, but undoubtedly good of heart, says Pintsize.
Coron is innocent.
You are Marten Reed, the introverted indie from Questionable Content. You don't think you have any special powers, but you don't like the idea of bad webcomic characters taking over and so have fired up Pintsize and commanded him to look up various webcomics.
Each night you may tell Pintsize to check up any one character's attitude. You do this by PMing me their name. I will PM you back telling you what Pintsize thinks of them - in other words, whether they are basically pro-town or not.
You are Gabe, the violent yet somewhat childlike webcomic drawer from Penny Arcade. Who cares about good or evil? What you've realised, and what no-one else seems to appreciate, is that enjoying life is more important than doing good things. And what you enjoy is sowing dischord. As such, your primary aim is to make things fun, and to an extent make sure the balance in the world will remain so you can carry on making things fun without boring people making it dull or evil people killing you. You also have cardboard-tube-samurai abilities, which will protect you the first time you would die for any reason and also give you the ability to kill someone, once during the game, at night.
You are Marten Reed, the introverted indie from Questionable Content. You don't think you have any special powers, but you don't like the idea of bad webcomic characters taking over and so have fired up Pintsize and commanded him to look up various webcomics.
Each night you may tell Pintsize to check up any one character's attitude. You do this by PMing me their name. I will PM you back telling you what Pintsize thinks of them - in other words, whether they are basically pro-town or not.
You are Gabe, the violent yet somewhat childlike webcomic drawer from Penny Arcade. Who cares about good or evil? What you've realised, and what no-one else seems to appreciate, is that enjoying life is more important than doing good things. And what you enjoy is sowing dischord. As such, your primary aim is to make things fun, and to an extent make sure the balance in the world will remain so you can carry on making things fun without boring people making it dull or evil people killing you. You also have cardboard-tube-samurai abilities, which will protect you the first time you would die for any reason and also give you the ability to kill someone, once during the game, at night.
Thok wrote:I think you guys wouldbe better off lynching Stevie rather than me.
I mean, I know I'm biased, but if he's part of a 3 person mafia group (with some godfather that's already Nemesis-investigated), it's useful to keep the SK around as a quasi-vig.
Also, I've already got my major victory; it's not like I need to kill Fighter a second time or something.
(In all honesty, lynching me yesterday would have been a good play for town. Lynching me today isn't nearly as useful.)
Maybe I'm biased too.Thok wrote:Hadoken: Nemesis
Thank you.I also think Nemesis did a good job handling the cop role.
Bertrand has unlimited nightkills when he died. The scum had someone immune to night kills and someone who was immune to investigations. Is there anything a Godfather can do that one of the scum couldn't?Perhaps if there had been an SK (like if Thok had been SK) and a mafia godfather,