Mini 1148 -- Spare Me Mafia (Game Over)

[Fate]

Well then, that sounds like an incentive to change my mind back to letting you die today doesn't it?

And here I was about to let you live

[chesskid3]

Fortunately I have 2 spare votes already
thanks though

[Umbrage]

Is Role Cop a scum-only role? I'm used to normal cops being role cops.

Honestly, even if CK3 is telling the truth, I don't want him alive. Vig is not a role that should go to the most impulsive player in the game. But regardless of that debate, there is an incredibly high chance CK3 is scum with that claim.

The way I see it, either Internet Stranger or chesskid3 is telling the truth, but not both. I'm leaning towards Internet Stranger, but I'm not entirely sure at this point.

[chesskid3]

i'm thinking of a number between 1-10
wheover gets closest is safe

[Fate]

The way I see it, Umbrage is scum setting up a false dichotomy.

So yeah.

[chesskid3]

I agree with the above post
but you still need to pick a number fate

[Fishythefish]

FishyTheFish - Null. G and I have a major disagreement in relation to him, I think he's contradicted himself multiple times and have a slight-scum read on him whereas G has a town-read on him. I'll let G state later why he believes so, but I think he's scum due to the fact that in post 63 he states Chess claim leads to him being scum and should die. In post 92 he states that he's getting a town-read from Chess claim. In post 145 changes right back to his opinion that Chess is mafia with no mention of reasons behind it. Post #174 - FishyTheFishy: Slight scum-tell from it: Contradiction within the post - Is attempting to say Chesskid is buddying someone else suspected to live therefore wouldn’t that person be town, yet how do they maintain a spot on his death list.

Chess's "two to save me" claim makes him likely scum. It would be a great scum role in this game, an a really horrible town one when town doesn't need any weakening - basically, town can't win a close game with chess alive. OTOH, his "you won't lynch me - I'm provably town" claim sounds town. These things conflict with each other, but overall I thik he's scum. chess buddying you - yeah, that means you two aren't as likely to be scum together. But you are still both pretty likely to be scum.

Having said that, I rather like the post I'm taking this from - makes my read on you much sunnier.

I've no intention of fullclaiming. I think it would hurt the town, either a little or a lot. Since I don't need or want any votes, it's not so important that people know what I am.

Oh, chess claimed vig. Well, we should probably save him, then. People who claim vig are a good thing.

Klazam is scummy scummy scum. No way does he actually have a townread on chesskid; he just wanted town points and "not getting shot by chesskid" points.

All new people who need to die list:
Apok
Klazam

Let's let these guys swing, give two votes to IS and chesskid, and 1 to everyone else. (And when I say "let's" I mean "please can you guys with the votes")

[Umbrage]

The way I see it, Umbrage is scum setting up a false dichotomy.

So yeah.

I thought about that. But I can't see the mod using that mechanic for two town roles or two scum roles. One of each, maybe. Two, too much.

Also, I have an important message for you all:

THERE IS ZERO REASON TO BELIEVE CHESSKID3 IS TOWN. THERE IS PLENTY OF REASON TO BELIEVE HE IS SCUM.

TWO SAVE VOTES OR DEATH IS NOT BALANCED FOR TOWN. IT IS BALANCED FOR SCUM.

VIG IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR SK OR SCUM.

CHESSKID3 DIES TODAY.

Thank you.

[chesskid3]

bang bang umbrage

[Fishythefish]

Oh, of course we

can

be sure that chess isn't a SK, so that's nice.

I say we leave him alive. His alignment is likely to become clear. If he's scum, we aren't losing much by letting him live - it's not like that gives scum an extra shot - and if he's town we would lose a lot by killing him.

[Klazam]

Sadly, i do believe that Chesskid is town. His play does not seem like it would be scum motivated.

For example- when he hinted that his role might be antitown, what sane scum would do that?

[Fate]

I'm not picking a number you fucking clown.

I swear on my namesake if you Vig me N1 I will make sure you are lynched every fucking D1 in every game we are ever in.

Any other night is fine, but not N1 I have shit I have to do.

[chesskid3]

:p

[Fate]

UPDATE:

chesskid3->Spare InternetStranger (1)
Apokalyptika-> Spare Fate
Fate-> Spare TonyMontana
vezokpiraka-> Spare Fate
TonyMontana-> Spare Internet Stranger (2)
Internet Stranger-> Spare The Mask
Umbrage-> Spare Freewill MY NEMSIS for future battle.
Freewill-> Spare Nacho
Nachomamma8-> Spare Klazam
Klazam-> Spare Chesskid (1)
The Mask-> Spare Apokalptikca/Duplicity (BUYERS CHOICE)
FishytheFish-> Spare VOTELESSDERP
Duplicity-> Spare: Chesskid (2)

RESULTS:
Vezok dies
Duplicity dies
Umbrage dies

[chesskid3]

switch vezok with apok plz

[Fate]

What in the fuck you want vezok ALIVE?

Just to vig him?

Thats fuckin cruel, but whatever. I don't mind having Vezok alive its to appease other people's sanity.

chesskid3->Spare InternetStranger (1)
Apokalyptika-> Spare Fate
Fate-> Spare TonyMontana
vezokpiraka-> Spare Fate
TonyMontana-> Spare Internet Stranger (2)
Internet Stranger-> Spare The Mask
Umbrage-> Spare Freewill MY NEMSIS for future battle.
Freewill-> Spare Nacho
Nachomamma8-> Spare Klazam
Klazam-> Spare Chesskid (1)
The Mask-> Spare Vezok/Apok//Duplicity (BUYERS CHOICE)
FishytheFish-> Spare VOTELESSDERP
Duplicity-> Spare: Chesskid (2)

RESULTS:
Two of Duplicity/Vezok/Apok dies
Umbrage dies

[chesskid3]

Unspare

Spare: IS

[Internet Stranger]

hmmph. Hey Fate, any reason why you have TWO votes for yourself now?
Can I start screaming CONSPIRACY yet?

You could have people vote "Spare: no one" you know.

Also, what makes you think the people marked for death will cooperate?

[chesskid3]

unspare

I call spare hammer

[Internet Stranger]

Are we supposed to trust my investigative vote to Chesskid of all people now? Really?

[Fate]

hmmph. Hey Fate, any reason why you have TWO votes for yourself now?
Can I start screaming CONSPIRACY yet?

You could have people vote "Spare: no one" you know.

Also, what makes you think the people marked for death will cooperate?

I don't think the people marked for death will co-operate, aka why Apok's vote isn't really important.

If Umbrage doesn't co-operate then I get to see Free Will clamor around desperately to save himself from his Fate.

Duplicity has to co-operate because hes already posted his belief in chesskid, if he backs out he's becomes claimed scum.

Any other concerns?

[Fate]

Are we supposed to trust my investigative vote to Chesskid of all people now? Really?

Chesskid will give you your spare vote, I am sure of it.

[Internet Stranger]

YEA. RIGHT.

If you want me to go along with this, someone else will vote for me. I will not allow Chesskid to fuck me. CHANGE IT.

[chesskid3]

lol wow i created drama

[chesskid3]

can I get the buyer's choice save then >_>