Mini 1141 - Frogs Mafia 2 - GAME, SET, MATCH

Shanba · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:54 pm

Vote Count:
5: mozamis

(tuncali, nopointinactingup, implosion, Apokalyptica, Cogito Ergo Sum)

2: MrBuddyLee

(mozamis, petroleumjelly)

2: Meransiel

(scotmany12, Amrun)

1: Apokalyptica

(MrBuddyLee)
Not Voting:

Meransiel, kunkstar7, darkstrike_11

implosion is in violation of activity guildelines but announced his v/la and will not be prodded. No one else is in violation of activity guidelines! Keep it up, folks!

Amrun · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:40 pm

MrBuddyLee wrote:I just accused nopoint of improperly tying "M&M" together, you dimwit.

Just when I decide to like your case on nopoint, you resort to insulting people.

You could JUST be insulting people, but the more I see you post, the more I think your word choices are careful. Mudslinging against moz, no matter how wrong he was, does not look good to me.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:49 pm

Just tired of the kid not reading the game carefully. He "can't be arsed" to find evidence. He's playing politics instead of scumhunting. It's disrespectful, and a waste of our time unless he's scum.

Amrun · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:05 pm

He did drum up SOME sort of evidence ... eventually.

I agree that he needs to play a couple of more newbie games, since he seems to be trying to treat this game as one, but that's not a call for things like "dimwit."

petroleumjelly · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:09 pm

mozamis:
Near the beginning of the game, you proposed a 2-man scum group. When asked about this, you replied:

mozamis, Post 71, March 16 wrote: Am i wrong to assume 2 scum then? Is more normal in a thirteen player game?

This does not strike me as a very credible response, given:

->

a.)

You had been playing in a 3-man mafia group in Mini 1133; and
->

b.)

You had also been playing in another 3-man mafia group in Mini 1126.

Would you mind explaining how this sequence of posts came about, and why?

I have been rereading you, and actually been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt (I also skimmed your posts in your other games), but this was really what popped out to me after giving you a closer look. I hate to make you feel like you get lynched early all the time, but I have to say, this looks to me like a pretty substantial slip, and one that was probably easy to make.

I am also going to note that Frogs 1 had 2 Mafia and 1 Traitor; so even if this is a slip from mozamis (which is definitely where I am leaning right now), it does not necessarily mean there are two scum teams.

And to re-emphasize: nobody even put mozamis at L-1, or he can just hammer himself to deny me my DayVig.

petroleumjelly · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:17 pm

Also, I can now read Post 71 as a plaintive cry to the Mod:

mozamis, Post 71, abridged wrote:Mod, don't scum usually get more than one partner in a 13-player game?

Answer being yes: you probably have a Traitor. Who I will start to look for after I DayVig you.

I would suggest claiming your role, but I'll be honest in saying it probably won't help you. I am rarely very "confident" about people being scum, but the more I think about this situation, the more it seems like a given that you have to be scum. There is a no way a Townie with your background (i.e. being part of two separate 3-man scum groups) would have assumed a 2-man scum group in

this

game.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:29 pm

Djelibeybi wrote:And in fact, that is one reason why I do not think it is particularly good idea for me to list out everybody I am considering Vigging, because then the game will almost naturally start revolving around those players (much like how Kingmaker games have historically run).

I wouldn't mind that at all, personally.

Meransiel · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:20 pm

petroleumjelly wrote:
And to re-emphasize: nobody even put mozamis at L-1, or he can just hammer himself to deny me my DayVig.

Ah come on, he's not creative enough to do that!

@MBL and Amrun: Stop arguing if swearing is good or bad. Doesn't help us in any way conceivable. Btw, good points on nopoint.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:17 pm

Amrun wrote:that's not a call for things like "dimwit."

The kid's been snottily poking at me all day, and in return, I've given him an honest, if brusque, assessment of his play. Hopefully the honesty does him some good, because otherwise he's destined to be lynchbait for some time. (And not just in mafia games.)

mozamis · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:35 pm

Buddy, sadly for me I am probably old enough to be your dad, so stop calling me a "Kid"

PJ-I'll have to check my other games now for you, but if memory serves they were both Little Italy games. This was my first "mini-normal" game. I assumed there were 2 scum.
A mistake on my part? I guess. Although maybe not, as I still dont know the set up of this game. Thinking about 2 scum of 13 seems unlikely i guess.
Anyway, enough of my ramblings! I dont really see why you think its such a big deal.

mozamis · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:55 pm

@PJ -Ah, I think I understand your point. You've looked at my other 3 games, 2 of which i was scum. In those scum games, I was part of a 3 man scum team.
So you're thinking "Moz must know there's more than 2 scum in this one?"
I guess I thought cos this game was a mini theme game, not a mini closed game, the set up might be different.
But yeah, fair point -I should have realised in a 13 player game, its unlikely there would only be 2 scum.

@Amrun -my guess is that Buddy is cranking up the agression on me so he can finally vote for me and say "Hey, I was reasonable with Moz for a long time, but in the end the guy was just looking more and more scummy".
He is preparing the groundwork for his vote change.

mozamis · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:10 am

ps I'm not gonna self hammer or ragequit (as I did in only other game as town, which from my perspective is spookily similar to this one!) so bring it on scum!

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:10 am

mozamis wrote:Buddy, sadly for me I am probably old enough to be your dad, so stop calling me a "Kid"

That's awesome.. I could literally picture the slingshot in your back pocket. My apologies, Gramps.

Meransiel · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:49 am

This is clearly going nowhere. Sadface...

nopointinactingup · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:23 am

Fail scum is fail MBL. You wanna play evidence this evidence that and get political? I HAVE POINTED OUT MY EVIDENCE and YOU CONTINUOUSLY IGNORED ME. Instead you choose to, in a hypocritical manner, deride my arguments with "lies" and "falsehood" and guess what, YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE/EXPLANATION FOR THEM EITHER, sounds familiar?

Mafia is not a game where I would throw all of my information in-thread to the scum and "scum-hunt" lol. You are naive scum to think otherwise and that you are. Accusing people with shit like "he said he nailed me as scum but doesn't explain why (so I can improve) wee wee wee" is weak and pathetic. That cost you the game, YOU CRACKED UNDER PRESSURE ( repeatedly ignored me and still ignores my main point, choose to strawman with bullshit reasoning ) and I WIN. Thank for playing

ANd lol, are you seriously trying to read my mind? Not only did you lie, you also manage to avoid every single of my push. That's like "no no don't bring up that point cuz I'll be caught .. I'll just ignore till he forgets". And amen to all of the other "deep inside nopoint's consciousness" you're trying to type. You got some damn nice imagination for someone who's addicted to evidence.

@Scotdude:

MrBuddyLee at Sat [u]10:26 pm[/u] wrote:I read my predecessor's post history and he looks like a total douchebag and obvious scum.

Hi, I'm replacing Magnetic. I replaced in because PJ asked me to and because Shanba is totally Shibby. Let's catch us some scum.

MrBuddyLee at Sat Mar 19, 2011 [u]12:37 am[/u] wrote: I also checked the little dropdown at the bottom of the page and saw my predecessor hadn't posted in this game yet, so I made a smart-ass comment to see who was paying attention.

10 fucking hours with 3 comments in between. Do you think this guy is at all proud of his "smart-ass" comment, do you think it was meant to "scum-hunt"? The FACT is, MrBuddyLee (didn't pay attention, didn't read the thread) himself and made a mistake in his first post, then he goes on to bullshit this reason out as an excuse. He would not have explained it that soon had he really thought his gambit could catch scum. Since then, he has continually avoided my accusation

mozamis · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:29 am

MrBuddyLee wrote:
mozamis wrote:Buddy, sadly for me I am probably old enough to be your dad, so stop calling me a "Kid"
That's awesome.. I could literally picture the slingshot in your back pocket. My apologies, Gramps.

No probs *chews baccy, dies in drunken slumber*

mozamis · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:31 am

@ NoPoint -then get off my wagon and jump on to ScummyLee's!

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:37 am

nopoint wrote:10 fucking hours with 3 comments in between.

MBL calls this out as a lie twice in his case (which it is, I just checked: 5 posts) and yet you repeat it here obliviously. Did you even bother to read what MBL posted?

Apokalyptika · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:20 am

nopoint is...also silly, somewhat annoying, and somewhat scummy for ignoring facts.

I've pretty much said what I think if moz is scum; if he's town, MBL would look scummy for antagonizing him.

petroleumjelly · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:25 am

Kill: mozamis

I am just not buying what you're selling, sir. The vote count will now be reset, and the number to lynch will drop by 1.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:34 am

nopointinactingup wrote:10 fucking hours with 3 comments in between. Do you think this guy is at all proud of his "smart-ass" comment, do you think it was meant to "scum-hunt"? The FACT is, MrBuddyLee (didn't pay attention, didn't read the thread) himself and made a mistake in his first post, then he goes on to bullshit this reason out as an excuse. He would not have explained it that soon had he really thought his gambit could catch scum. Since then, he has continually avoided my accusation

What do you think of my suspicions, nopoint? You've avoided discussing them because you've been single-focused on promulgating this misinterpretation all game.

CES is $ on this, which is ironic considering I've had him as still slightly more likely scum than you.

(5 people,

not 3

as nopoint says, made 6 posts in between my first post and my second. Proof inside spoiler.)

Spoiler:

@nopoint, I think you're willfully ignoring and twisting evidence at this point in an attempt to frame me up. You've gone beyond Javert, beyond Clouseau, beyond Keystone Kops at this point, perhaps to "Chief Wiggum".

I think if I showed this quote to 1000 townies:

MBL wrote:I read my predecessor's post history and he looks like a total douchebag and obvious scum.

and pointed out that my predecessor never posted in the game, that 999 townies would comprehend the joke. You are the one special snowflake, nopoint. Or better yet, you're scum, and everyone can buy me a @#$@#$ drink after the game for catching you and mozamis.

I'll laugh if the first person I caught with this trick (mozamis) turns out to be scum. Regardless, nopoint, please feel free to keep chasing me around with a giant squeaky rubber mallet after the reveal.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:35 am

ah, dayvig. Good luck, everyone.

mozamis · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:16 am

PJ you fool! Lets hope for town sakes you've only got one shot otherwise its gonna be easy for scum.
Of course, when i flip town I'm sure it won't affect your confidence in your reads...

Damn it i thought u were good at this game. You can be experienced and still not very good I guess. Killing someone cos they weren't sure how many scum there were. Imbecilic.

Have a look at Buddy and Scot folks. they r my top 2.

mozamis · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:19 am

God this is bad. The one player who i thought might find scum -PJ -has no credibility now. Gonna be tough for town. What a nobber.

Amrun · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:27 am

MBL, you think CES is scummier than no point? Since when? Did you post a case on him that I'm forgetting.

Bye mozamis.