UK said here death would confirm greyICE town. The information from her flip does not do it for me. I don't see anything there that confirms greyICE's claimed role as town. If UK had anything else in her role PM, idk. She said she did, and I can take some random ass guesses at how she could come to a faulty conclusion about greyICE, but that wouldn't be very helpful either.
greyICE wrote:As for me lacking a role name, I assume it's because without a bounty, I have no role. I can post and vote.
lol... I'll be interested to hear what your explaination will be first time a vanilla townie flips.
ToastyToast wrote:@Rhinox: If you look at GreyICE's crumbing near the end of D1, it would be reasonable to conclude that he was going to hide behind me (or Vi). The whole "oops" moment that GreyICE seems to be playing is a pain in the ass, but it doesn't mean he isn't telling the truth. I think its best to trust UK, who a majority of us had on town lists throughout the game.
You can through jahudo on that list of breadcrumbs too if you want to call them that. That still doesn't change the fact that his scum suspects are not ideal N1 hider suspects, because had he shown up dead this morning, we wouldn't know if it was because he hid behind one of his 3 suspects, the nk (uk in this place), was a nk himself, or he hid behind someone entirely different trying to clear a townie.
I'm not going to beat my head off a brick wall all day, but I don't want to just give up on this. Aside from UK's claim of information, is there any other reason why greyICE is supposedly confirmed town? Can anyone explain to me how UK's flip confirmed greyICE based on his claimed role?
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In the meantime, I suppose I should get involved in the miller discussion. Has anyone seen scum claim miller pre-investigation?
I'm having a hard time believing either Vi or Jahudo would claim miller as scum in the situations that they did. Vi did it to CC seraph. Jahudo did it to CC Vi. Vi crumbed it all the way back in her first post. Jahudo didn't, but he naturally became suspicious of Vi claim in that someone-just-claimed-my-role-and-the-info-doesn't-line-up-with-his-own kinda way (sorta like how greyICE's info doesn't line up with, oh, the whole town it seems, and he didn't naturally become suspicious of vi after vi claimed hider, but whatev. ok I'm done, just had to throw that in there).
Yesterday, I thought the cool line of thought was, jahudo is scum with seraph because he claimed miller to get vi-actual-miller lynched instead of seraph-scum-partner? Well, we now know jahudo is obviously not scum with seraph, so... why are there jahudo votes today?
I understand why greyICE and company is voting Vi, but I want someone to explain how Vi scum makes sense with 1) the crumbs in the opening post, and 2) claiming to CC seraph? greyICE claims vi claimed miller because ice claimed an investigative role - vi already had the breadcrumbs, so she could have pointed to them after she was investigated just as easy as before, but coming out before prevents greyICE from potentially wasting his 1-shot investigation on a miller. So Vi claiming when she did seems actually more pro-town than if she had waited to claim. And then there's the fact that Vi claimed to CC seraph, not because of greyICE's ability - or are we to believe that vi just got lucky to be presented with a natural opportunity to claim miller as scum and make it look like a CC and not "OMG a cop!"?
