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Origins of World War I - Austria-Hungary (Zang), Turn Two.

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:43 am

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Origins of World War I


AboutA political-strategy game in which five players represent the five major nations in pre-World War I Europe. They must compete against each other to achieve each nation's 'national objectives'.



Summary of Rules/Play

Each of the five nations playable (Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary) have their own national objectives, worth varying amounts of points. The game lasts for 10 turns (per country). On their turn, a player chooses allocation of
Political Factors
- representing developing political influence with other countries. A player may also make one
Diplomatic Attack
per turn - representing an attempt to reduce the influence of other countries. Players are encouraged to make deals with each other (all of which are strictly non-enforceable) during any point in the game.


More in-depth explanation


Spoiler: General Rules/Guidelines
  • Signing up

    When signing up, players should choose a country to become the Head of State of (or play as). Obviously, you can't pick a country that has already been chosen.
  • Turn order

    Play will proceed in the following order: Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary.
  • Actions on a turn

    During their turn, players place the number of
    Political Factors
    they are entitled to (which differs for each country - see here for details) in foreign embassies. A player is limited to adding a maximum of 5 PFs in one embassy per turn. The embassies avaliable are: Britian, France, Germany, Russia, Austria-Hungary, Italy, Serbia, Rumania, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey, 'Far East' and Africa. Players may put PFs in their 'own embassy' (representing national propaganda) in order to combat the influence of other countries.
  • Diplomatic attacks

    During their turn, players may also make ONE diplomatic attack. In order to make a diplomatic attack on another country, the two countries must have a common embassy in which they have PFs. The ratio of PFs in the attack (attacker:defender) effects how successful the attack will likely be. (See here for more details.)
  • Obtaining treaty rights

    When a nation has ten or more PFs in its embassy in another nation, it has obtained 'treaty rights' from that nation. Should the number of PFs drop below ten, the 'treaty rights' are lost until 10 or more PFs are reached again.
  • Ending the game

    After all the players have had ten turns the game is ended. The situation is compared with the 'national objectives (see here) of each of the five nations and points are awarded accordingly. The player with the most points is the victor - in the event of a tie, the victory is shared between the tied nations.
  • Making deals

    Players are encouraged to make deals with each other and negotiations can take place at any time during the game
    but only in the game thread
    (or Ambassadorial QuickTopics IF AVALIABLE). Any type of deal can be made except that PFs cannot be transferred between players and players cannot combine their PFs in a diplomatic attack. Deals are not enforceable by the rules of the game and any player is free to go back on his word at any time he feels it is to his advantage to do so.


Spoiler: Ambassadors
Each country/Head of State has their own private Ambassador, who helps to manage foreign relations to the other countries.

At any time, an Ambassador may post in thread:
Request to open communications with [country name]
. The Ambassador of the other country then posts either
Accept
or
Decline
. If they accept, then any other Ambassadorial QuickTopics that either of the two other Ambassadors are in are locked, and the Ambassadorial QuickTopic for the two countries is opened/unlocked. Both the Heads of State and the Ambassadors (of those two countries) are allowed to read and post in the QuickTopic.

When a request to open communications is made by an Ambassador, either of the two Heads of State involved may choose to
Veto
the request (ie, decline it). However, only the other Ambassador can officially
Accept
the request.

Each country/Ambassador may only make
or
accept ONE request to open communications with another country per
each country's
turn.

Heads of State MAY communicate with THEIR Ambassador over PM.
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:45 am

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Spoiler: Countries/Players
BritainHead of State: Drench
Ambassador: Twistedspoon


FranceHead of State: SharkFinn
Meransiel

Ambassador: animorpherv1


GermanyHead of State: gandalf5166
Ambassador: Kcdaspot


RussiaHead of State: JDGA
Ambassador: cjdrum


Austria-HungaryHead of State: Zang
Ambassador: Mist7676


Spoiler: Game Table
NATIONSBritish PFsFrench PFsGerman PFsRussian PFsAustro-Hungarian PFs
Britain10 -
Treaty Rights
France2
Germany3
Russia6
Austria-Hungary42
Italy5293
Serbia46
Rumania66
Bulgaria
Greece9
Turkey7
'Far East'10 -
Treaty Rights
Africa10 -
Treaty Rights
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:45 am

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Spoiler: About each Nation
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Spoiler: Diplomatic Attacks
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:46 am

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Questions/Clarification


Spoiler: I am Germany. Do I lose my bonus points permanently as soon as Great Britain recieves/gives Treaty Rights, or do I regain it if they then lose those Treaty Rights?
Points are awarded based on the situation at the end of the game, so if at the end of the game Great Britain has lost all their Treaty Rights (via Diplomatic Attacks), then Germany would recieve the 5 points regardless of whether Great Britain had held Treaty Rights earlier in the game.

Spoiler: Are we allowed to communicate outside of the game thread?
Unless the Ambassador slots are filled out (so we have 10 players) and I can then implemment the private Ambassadorial QuickTopic rule, then no. All communication is to take place in this game thread.

Spoiler: Are spare PFs kept until the next turn?
No. Spend them on your turn or lose them.

Spoiler: Is there any penalty for allowing other countries to put PFs in my embassy?
Not directly - however, it may in the long term result in them gaining points at the end of the game (which means you need more points to win).
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Post Post #7 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:10 am

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Bump.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:52 am

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Meransiel wrote:/in as France

Also:
1. You wrote "Romania" wrong.
2. We did kind of matter in WW1 (what with the Austro-hungarians, Bulgarians and Germans alloting a pretty fair amount of troops to fight with us - we lost, but whatever).
1. I didn't create the game (which has Romania spelt as Rumania), but FWIW, I believe Romania was spelt Rumania in England pre-WW1, so it gives it MOAR HISTORICAL FLAVOUR.
2. Again, I didn't create the game, but it's just the five most important European countries (as judged by the creator).


@ gandalf: If he loses Treaty Rights (via Diplomatic Attacks), you regain your bonus.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:16 am

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COOLBEANS.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:15 pm

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The next person who /ins automatically becomes Russia!
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Post Post #18 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:28 pm

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Okey doke. I'll put you down as a replacement then.

Having said that, I think it should be fairly easy to pick up, and as Russia you'll be able to watch Britain, France and Germany have their turns so you probably won't have any problems.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:15 pm

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Awesome!

Well, then, we're ready to kick things off.

Mass PM going out now, discussion can begin now. No communicating over PM please.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:21 pm

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Sorry cjdrum. :(

If we get 4 other players, we can use Ambassadors. I'll start advertising it.

(EDIT: If we do get Ambassadors, which country would you want to be an Ambassador for? This isn't like the British Ambassador to France, but rather a more general Ambassador, so a British Ambassador to All Foreign Countries.)


But anyway:
BRITAIN, TURN ONE, BEGIN!
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Post Post #24 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:39 pm

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Well, if we get another 4 players, then I'll open up the private Ambassadorial QuickTopic rule (see first post).

I could do it with 5 players but I fear this may slow down the pace of the game. If everybody wants me to, I will though.


Otherwise,
all communication is to be within this game thread
.

Apologies if this has been vague.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:34 am

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JDGA wrote:I'm pretty sure it's first dibs, and cj already claimed ambassador to me ^_^
*is popular*
*is pleased*
Yes, it is. :P

Twisted, I'll put you down as France/GB. You'll have whichever is not picked by any other Ambassadors.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #13) » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:04 am

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So that means Twisted ends up with GB by default, anyway.

JUST TWO MORE NOW!
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Post Post #36 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:49 am

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Austria-Hungary or Germany?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #15) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:56 am

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5+5+5 = 15
Britain's PFs = 14

15 > 14
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Post Post #43 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:35 am

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Twistedspoon wrote:
Drench wrote:I WANT TS

Wait, sorry. Dearie me, I would love to have the fine services of Sir Spoon of Twisted at my disposal. Good sir, would you care to join me?
sure :]
You had no input in the matter, anyway.


Drench: if it wasn't clear, you'll be needing to cut down on your spending by 1 PF somewhere.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:55 am

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Game Table has been updated.

FRANCE, TURN ONE, BEGIN!
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Post Post #53 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:37 am

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It's a negative. I'll put it into Italy as per your post.

Game table being updated.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:14 am

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When you're happy, Meransiel, Germany can begin their turn.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:04 am

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Game Table has been updated.

GERMANY, TURN ONE, BEGIN!
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Post Post #68 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:15 am

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IMPORTANT MOD NOTE: From now on, for the mutual benefit of myself and themselves, players are to announce 'End Turn' or words to that effect when they are satisfied with their current PF distribution and have chosen to either take or not take the option of diplomatic war.


EDIT: Gand, you've still got one left-over PF.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:40 am

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Hoppster wrote:
IMPORTANT MOD NOTE: From now on, for the mutual benefit of myself and themselves, players are to announce 'End Turn' or words to that effect when they are satisfied with their current PF distribution and have chosen to either take or not take the option of diplomatic war.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:52 pm

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Game Table has been updated.

RUSSIA, TURN ONE, BEGIN!
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Post Post #74 (isolation #24) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:17 am

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JDGA wrote:
To God (Hoppster):
Is there any penalty for allowing a nation to place PFs in my embassy?
Not directly.

Perhaps indirectly in that it may allow them to get points with no points going your way.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #25) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:56 pm

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Game Table has been updated.

AUSTRIA-HUNGARY, TURN ONE, BEGIN!
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Post Post #83 (isolation #26) » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:43 am

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And we have an ambassador just in time for you as well, Zang.

Mist7676
becomes the Austro-Hungarian Ambassador.

I'll be putting the Ambassadorial rules into effect when we reach Britain's turn again (the rules detailed in the first post will likely be slightly ammended/altered by then).
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Post Post #87 (isolation #27) » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:38 am

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Mist
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Post Post #89 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:18 am

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Game table updated.

Here's how things stand at the end of Turn One:

Spoiler: Game Table
I have no idea why there's this huge gap. Just live with it.
NATIONSBritish PFsFrench PFsGerman PFsRussian PFsAustro-Hungarian PFs
Britain5
France2
Germany1
Russia1
Austria-Hungary52
Italy55
Serbia13
Rumania44
Bulgaria
Greece4
Turkey5
'Far East'55
Africa5


BRITAIN, TURN TWO, BEGIN!


EDIT: Actually, don't place any PFs yet. Feel free to discuss, but I need to edit/implemment the Ambassador rules.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:39 am

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Ambassadors

Each country/Head of State has their own private Ambassador, who helps to manage foreign relations to the other countries.

At any time, an Ambassador may post in thread:
Request to open communications with [country name]
. The Ambassador of the other country then posts either
Accept
or
Decline
. If they accept, then any other Ambassadorial QuickTopics that either of the two other Ambassadors are in are locked, and the Ambassadorial QuickTopic for the two countries is opened/unlocked. Both the Heads of State and the Ambassadors (of those two countries) are allowed to read and post in the QuickTopic.

When a request to open communications is made by an Ambassador, either of the two Heads of State involved may choose to
Veto
the request (ie, decline it). However, only the other Ambassador can officially
Accept
the request.

Each country/Ambassador may only make
or
accept ONE request to open communications with another country per
each country's
turn.

Heads of State MAY communicate with THEIR Ambassador over PM.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #30) » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:56 am

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Bump.

Mass prod to go out.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #31) » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:08 am

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Bingo.

Expect a PM with the QuickTopic link.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #32) » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:45 am

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Each country/Ambassador may only make
or
accept ONE request to open communications with another country per each country's turn.
Meaning, animorpherv1, YOU MISSED ALL THE ACTION!

@ Kc: If you want to accept, you'll have to wait until after Drench/Britain's turn.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:16 am

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Bump.

Drench needs to get in here before I set a deadline. >>
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Post Post #106 (isolation #34) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:47 am

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Looking for a Meransiel replacement.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #35) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:19 am

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SharkFinn is installed as the President of France with immediate effect.
(Democracy is overrated.)
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Post Post #122 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:04 am

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Post Post #124 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:39 am

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Britain have 48 hours to complete their turn.


HURRY UP DRENCH PlZ.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #38) » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:58 pm

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Hoppster wrote:
Britain have
48
36 hours to complete their turn.


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Post Post #127 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:33 am

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Coool.

Lemme go update.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:36 am

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THANKS JDGA

Result coming in ~2 mins.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:40 am

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Diplomatic Attack Resolution
Attacker PFs:Defender PFs = 2:1


Die result: Image


Result: Defender (Germany) Eliminated.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:41 am

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AnnouncementBritian has achieved Treaty Rights with the Far East.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:48 am

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FRANCE, TURN TWO, BEGIN!


Thangs are kicking off.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #44) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:49 am

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JDGA wrote:PS: Assuming I get online before Hoppster after an attack is called, I can always quickly set up that resolution table. Or we could just make it official XD
That'd be fine, I live in the UK so I may be asleep when all teh action is happening.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:39 am

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AnnouncementGermany have ceased communications with Austria-Hungary and begun communications with France.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #46) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:03 am

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Ta, updating now.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #47) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:05 am

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Diplomatic Attack?
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Post Post #151 (isolation #48) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:08 am

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GANDALF/GERMANY MAY BEGIN THEIR TURN
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Post Post #157 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:24 pm

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SharkFinn wrote:
At hoppster: I have treaty rights in 2 nations.
INDEED YOU DO.

I'll update that now (and also add gandalf's moves).
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Post Post #158 (isolation #50) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:27 pm

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Announcement (from previous turn)France have obtained Treaty Rights with Britain and Afria.


Resolving the Diplomatic Attack now.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #51) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:30 pm

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Diplomatic Attack Resolution
Attacker PFs:Defender PFs = 4:1


Die roll: Image

Result: Exchange. Germany and Austria-Hungary both lose 2 PFs.


Corrected for my incompetence.

Diplomatic Attack Resolution
Attacker PFs:Defender PFs = 2:1


Die roll: Image

Result: Attacker Eliminated. Germany loses all 9 PFs.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #52) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:30 pm

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Go, Russia.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:49 pm

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Diplomatic Attack Resolution
Attacker PFs:Defender PFs = 3:1


Die roll: Image

Result: Exchange; both Russia and Germany lose 3 PFs.


Austria-Hungary's turn.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:32 am

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Whoops. Goddamnit. Misread.

RE-DOING DIPLOMATIC ATTACK NOW KTHX
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Post Post #169 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:57 am

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Crisis averted, my incompetence has been plastered over with some duct tape and pictures of kittens. All is good.
Let's keep it moderately civil.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #56) » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:02 am

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Zang has been reminded it is his turn.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:48 pm

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Zang wrote:I don't think you changed the game table back after you messed up the attack.

3 in Italy
3 in serbia
2 in Rumania
2 in Germany
gandalf previously had 9 PFs in Austria Hungary but now has 0.

Updating the table now.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #58) » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:54 am

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OHYH

Zang, Diplomatic Attack or not?
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Post Post #183 (isolation #59) » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:29 am

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Britain's turn.

I'll update the first post/title when I have time.
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