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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:39 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Toasty what are you talking about with the lyncher comment?
If we are to believe seraphim's claim, then when he reaches his wincon, he becomes a confirmed townie with the ability to keep all his powers. What does keeping him around get us? Today has largely become about who the bad guys are. The mix of all the claims so far makes the game unbelievable. We have millers, a one-shot cop who may not even be investigating scum, and a lyncher. I understand how the miller thing could be a throw-off for town, but the lyncher seems...out of place to me.
UncertainKitten wrote: Lynching one of the millers directly at this point is a suboptimal strategy since you're pretty much proven not town. We win regardless of your flip given our parameters. Further, your flip provides ~*~informations~*~ that lead to scum, whether it's your buddy or unrelated to you.
I agree with this. Lynching Seraphim has the least drawbacks at this point. We either take out a third party that could be aiming for town or lynch scum. On the offchance that he's trying to lynch scum, we find out exactly who we're looking for and use GreyICE's information to take out the red dragon.

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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:43 pm

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Of the 4 claims, I think seraph is most likely to be scum. greyICE a close second.

Seraph has changed his story too many times to be trustworthy. Others have already laid out the case there's no reason for me to repeat everything. I was going to point out the stuff Vi just did in 834. Only thing I will add is the appeal to fear - "beware if you lynch me you'll still have to worry about the millers :twisted:". OK I'll say something else. Seraph is voting Vi and claims its not against his wincon, but says he won't venge-kill a miller (vi) because he doesn't think a miller is vicious. :?

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greyICE is the only one to claim at L-1. I've had some concerns, but so far he's had reasonable answers. 1-shot investigate in the presence of 2 millers is ???. The fact that RDC is not the absolute confirmed scum group yet is also an open question but one that should be cleared up sooner or later.

Vi's miller claim is probably real. She planned it in her first post, and her only intent to claim was to get seraph lynched. It didn't seem like the time to just come out and claim miller as scum for no reason. Maybe one of the other wagons (toasty/greyICE?) are a scum partner, but even then putting heavy suspecion on yourself to save a scum partner? i don't think so... I actually give pro-town points for claiming miller AFTER an investigative role has claimed - saves the investigative role from saving a shot. Vi could have just sat on the miller claim, and if greyICE used the investigate on Vi, she could have pointed out the breadcrums then.

This is going to be a similar paragraph regarding jahudo. no reason to claim other than to CC Vi, and if seraph is town and jahudo is lying scum, no reason to do that at all when seraph was already likely going down. I can't explain the inconsistencies between Vi's and Jahudo's miller claims though.

I think seraph is the right lynch for today.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:43 pm

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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:44 pm

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@Rhinox: My role information confirms GI as town, so you know.

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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:48 pm

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UncertainKitten wrote:@Rhinox: My role information confirms GI as town, so you know.

@LLD: Is it an Incu-bus!?
I know you keep saying that. Good enough for me for now.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:51 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Here comes the bus.
And if I'd have not just voted seraph, that would also somehow support that I'm scum with him, right?
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:51 pm

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Just wanted to be clear. Because essentially if GI is scum, I'd pretty much have to be scum with him.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:55 pm

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Seraphlynch is dumb.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:56 pm

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Thank you for your stunning contribution, CES.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:16 pm

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UncertainKitten wrote:@GI: Are you claiming that you specifically get alignment through RDC flavor, as in it specifically says such? Or are you conjecturing because "Fate wouldn't put in a useless one shot cop"?
They're scum. Oh yes.

Vi is scum, vote Vi.

CES made first useful contribution of game by agreeing with me. Should do it more, would make him much less scummy.

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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:18 pm

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Scum wanna lynch seraph over Vi.

Today's Lynch:
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:25 pm

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Town also seems to want to lynch seraph over Vi. Or, are you suggesting that all 6 people on his wagon are scum? And CES agreeing with you would clear him? BS, I hope that was a joke.

Looks like I was right. Voting for Seraphim brings the wrath of the narrow-minded GreyICE who seems to think he can lead town based on a role claim. He's also assuming a vig exists. BTW, I'm pretty sure no matter who I voted for, you would respond with "Scum wanna lynch [name] over [name]"
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:27 pm

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Nope.

If you vote Vi it's a good bus.

I favor you bussing here.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:31 pm

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Toasty, who is your scumread on the Seraphim wagon right now?
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:32 pm

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@GI: You've basically gone off the deep end of tunnel vision and into suboptimal VI zone. You'll excuse me if I proceed to ignore your posts until you start being sane again. Sorry~
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:32 pm

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UK, the same question to you.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:33 pm

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The only way I'm voting for Vi is if you get a scum-read on her tonight. So, no, both you and Seraphim have a higher place on my scum list.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:33 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Toasty, who is your scumread on the Seraphim wagon right now?
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:34 pm

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UncertainKitten wrote:@GI: You've basically gone off the deep end of tunnel vision and into suboptimal VI zone. You'll excuse me if I proceed to ignore your posts until you start being sane again. Sorry~
Cease ignoring my posts.

Start voting Vi.

Trust us. There are reasons.

Besides the fact Vi is obvscum.

His scumbuddy thinks I won't investigate him. Does he suggest that we lynch Vi and I test Seraphim, who claims not to be RDC?

Oh no. That would mean lynching scum, and then they can't just NK me.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:37 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Toasty, who is your scumread on the Seraphim wagon right now?
I can see Vi-scum, but only if I'm incorrect about Seraphim
Rhinox is null, at best.

@GreyICE: Vi claimed miller. Seraphim claimed miller, THEN third party. Which is more suspicious?
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:43 pm

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Hypothesis: if ToastyToast and Lady µß agree on anything non-trivial, they're wrong.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:44 pm

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@NM: I had a scumread on the Seraphim wagon?
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:44 pm

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unvote;
Vote: Seraphim
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:46 pm

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HEY LOOK WHO WAS RIGHT ABOUT JAHUDO-SCUM.
SERAPHIM PLEASE SAVE HIM FOR ME AND SHOOT VI.
IN THE HONOR OF THE PAST WE'VE HAD TOGETHER. AND A BIG FUCK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO LYNCHED YOU.
PLEASE.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:49 pm

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