Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

[Sathoris]

perhaps we should doctor her neighbor

assuming we have one

Didn't you claim doctor?

I'm sorry but you so need to be lynched today. UNVOTE: Smarg VOTE: Furcolow

[bvoigt]

He redacted that claim at some point.

[XScorpion]

He's still a liar and a scum and should have been lynched yesterday. More furc votes plz.

[Furcolow]

Look at my scumgames, and look at this, I'm directly responding to any and all accusations whereas when I'm scum I deflect.
/meta

[Lowell]

@1715(Fonz)- gonna and bvoigt have no particular connection IMO. gonna is the one I want lynched. He keeps sliding by despite his horrible posts (read him in ISO, I dare you), only seems to perk up when meta-discussions are at the fore, and everytime we get a wagon started on him someone says "OMG look over there!" and we all go running away like idiots.

@1719(gonna)- this post makes no sense. add this to the category of posts mentioned above. no one would claim neighbor without actually being one. I think the point folks are making is that "neighbor" of itself doesn't actually clear anyone of anything.

unvote, vote gonna

[Sotty7]

Day 3, vote count 5

smargaret - 3 -

LynchMePls, Furcolow, Beasts of the Sea

DavidParker - 2 -

EGL, Scott Brosius

Furcolow - 3 -

XScorpion, The Fonz, Sathoris

Scott Brosius - 1 -

DavidParker

Stephoscope - 1 -

smargaret

bvoigt - 2 -

ThAdmiral, Stephoscope

gonnano - 2 -

bvoigt, Lowell

Not voting - 2 -

gonnano, Feysal

• With
  16
  players alive, it takes
  9
  to lynch.
  
• Deadline for the end of day three is Monday April 4th @2PM CST
  
• DavidParker
  was prodded.
  
• LynchMePls
  was prodded.
  
• Feysal
  was prodded.

[ThAdmiral]

Omg such a ridiculous spread of votes!!!

[LimMePls]

Sorry everyone, but I need V/LA for the next day, maybe 2. Pretty swamped. I'll post ASAP.

[Scott Brosius]

He's still a liar and a scum and should have been lynched yesterday. More furc votes plz.

Do you have opinions on anyone else? DP also was caught in a lie, why Furc over him?

We have a boatload of scum alive and we have two confirmed liars and players that cannot live until LYLO. Votes should be going there.

[The Fonz]

Did I miss the DP lie? What was that? Oh well, ISO here i come.

[The Fonz]

Oh right, role-related info on ThAd. He actually admitted it rather than was caught, though. Furc is worse because he was actually caught in a lie, and initially refused to admit it, and then changed his claim when it looked like that wasn't working.

[ThAdmiral]

...and then changed his claim again. And again.

[ThAdmiral]

So, you know, standard Furculow fare.

[The Fonz]

I'm not aware of it being standard Furc fare, though. I've seen him tunnel, omgus, use fail logic, talk about ongoing games and completely fail to read the rules, but lying about his role is bad even for him.

[The Fonz]

Oh, and quickhammer claimed cops. Can't forget that one.

[Stephoscope]

@Steph: Why do you say I'm "probably scum?"

I explained toward the beginning of the game why I found you suspicious. If you were scum then, you are still scum now.

Has anything happened to strengthen you read? This is a terrible comment because it is referencing someone's level of scumminess based only on early evidence and applying that early evidence as a constant throughout the game. I bet if one flips scum the other is, too. Stephoscope is clearly trying to establish that she has been advocating for bvoit's lynch all game, while the original case is very unconvincing:

Reading him in iso, I find it pretty likely that he is scum. I don't like all the little suggestions that he is town.

Reading him in iso makes me think he's trying to hard to be seen as a verified townie. And I don't like how he's completely ignored my vote.

This is the "case" that indicates that bvoigt is scum forever and ever??? From the seventh day of the game no less. I think we might have found two scum buddies. I'm going to have to think about this a little and read a few more things. I might be changing my vote shortly.

Ummm scum probably does remain scum forever and ever in this game. I'm not going to build more case on bvoigt based on later things that I don't really think are tells; that would be tunneling. In face I will go so far as to admit that he and I have advocated several of the same positions (Bunnylover's lynch; nachomamma claiming; unvoting smargaret). But I did get mega scum vibes from him in those first few posts, I still trust my gut, and my gut says he is scum. It can absolutely be expected that if he was pegged as scum early on, even if a bandwagon didn't start up, he'd be extra careful going forwards.

[smargaret]

Steph's most recent post smacks of lazy scum - if he's already built a "case" on someone, why does he need to build it again?

Scott, why should we be voting the liars who, as meta tells us, will lie regardless of alignment instead of the scum? Do you think Furc/DP's lies make them necessarily scummy?

If we're voting someone over lies, I'd rather it be Furc than DP - DP's role information claim doesn't seem as scummy as Furc's multiple fakeclaims to me. However, I'd much rather look for/lynch scum.

[Stephoscope]

Steph's most recent post smacks of lazy scum - if he's already built a "case" on someone, why does he need to build it again?

Well, that's not at all what I'm thinking, and not at all what I said.

[smargaret]

Well, it is what you did. Surely bvoigt has done something else today, whether to increase your scum read or make him look more town. Not even considering his later actions and relying completely on your initial gut read is lazy, end of story.

[Furcolow]

the only time i have ever claimed doctor as scum i really was a doctor
why would i retract my claim as scum
that makes no sense

i just dont see the motivation for my play as scum
if you all feel i'm a lylobility, go for it, but now is the time for OMGUSING for me because the only people pushing me will be on one of the scum teams trying to confuse town into thinking a mislynch is applicable with 4v3 on the scumteams

you know, it isn't
you're stuck with me, town
don't be dumb and play into this bullshit

unvote;
vote:

jmj

the fonz

Anyone remember the d1 jmj wagon where the guy lurked and then replaced?
Wonder why someone is pushing me, acting like my meta isn't horrible as town?
Scum.

[Furcolow]

Steph's most recent post smacks of lazy scum - if he's already built a "case" on someone, why does he need to build it again?

Scott, why should we be voting the liars who, as meta tells us, will lie regardless of alignment instead of the scum? Do you think Furc/DP's lies make them necessarily scummy?

If we're voting someone over lies, I'd rather it be Furc than DP - DP's role information claim doesn't seem as scummy as Furc's multiple fakeclaims to me.

However, I'd much rather look for/lynch scum

.

admission of guilt in bold
they are letting you know DP/I won't be flipping scum
However, Smargaret is dumb, because we could be on the other team

I can't make any bold statements like that, because I only know my own alignment is a fucking soviet bulletproof

[Furcolow]

-------------------------
Minor points:
- Would love to hear more from PoisonIvy.
- Loving the pressure on Furcolow, but I'm getting a town read on him. (Primarily based on my own panic fits I've thrown, when I was a townie getting wagoned.)

[Furcolow]

OH HO HO IM TOWN FOLKS

[Furcolow]

ah, shit 2 scum teams
fuck
sorry for the quad post

[The Fonz]

the only time i have ever claimed doctor as scum i really was a doctor
why would i retract my claim as scum
that makes no sense

WIFOM

i just dont see the motivation for my play as scum

WIFOM

if you all feel i'm a lylobility, go for it,

I do

but now is the time for OMGUSING for me because the only people pushing me will be on one of the scum teams trying to confuse town into thinking a mislynch is applicable with 4v3 on the scumteams

BULLSHIT. THERE IS

EVERY

REASON FOR TOWN TO WANT YOU DEAD. Like Llamafluff did, before he was nightkilled N1.

you know, it isn't
you're stuck with me, town
don't be dumb and play into this bullshit

unvote;
vote:

jmj

the fonz

OMGUS, and admitting it doesn't make it better

Anyone remember the d1 jmj wagon where the guy lurked and then replaced?
Wonder why someone is pushing me, acting like my meta isn't horrible as town?
Scum.

Your last sentence doesn't even make sense. A guy who lurks then flakes out is clearly someone who didn't have time or motivation to play rather than a tactical lurker, that's grade A scummy mudslinging there. I've never said your meta isn't horrible. I would say you're the worst player ever, but sadly I've played with Ah2190, Shotty, and Mist, so you're not even top three. What your meta has not to my knowledge included is lying about your role as town.

My name on this site is synonymous with lynch all liars. That is, I believe that the majority of people who lie about their roles are scum, and trying to make excuses for particular liars costs more games in terms of letting lying scum off the hook than mislynching a few idiotic townies does.

Even by the standards of people who lie about their roles, your lie became public knowledge in a particularly scummy way- you slipped, then tried to pretend it wasn't a big deal, then admitted it and changed your claim to try to save yourself. People who do that are just overwhelmingly, like 90% of the time, scum. Your general level of idiocy might make it less likely than that, but to me you're still pretty much as likely as anyone in the game to be scum. Which coupled with the fact that if you're town, you're less useful than Miley Cyrus in an acting competition, makes me want you dead. When I play with VIs, generally I'm happy to lynch them unless I've got a concrete reason to think them more likely than a random lynch to come up town. With you, you're a VI who has more reason than the average player to think you scum.