Mini 1120 - X-Files - Game Over

[Jahudo]

Darla, don't you think its likely that scum have safeclaims? If you look at GMan's role he was Alex Krycek, makes a lot of sense as a traitor. Even scum might not trust that character.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

it's possible yes Jah also I am inclined to think Dekes/Amrun are telling the truth since Byers already died.

I'm William Mulder (the elder not that fraker of a show-killing baby.) I've been trying my best to think of how to hint at my rather random role by using the word 'son' a lot seeing as he's the 'daddy' of Mulder. Me sad now though, because my poor (not!) kiddo got killed

I choose Jahudo since Haylen isn't here right now apparently.

[Jahudo]

Here's my claim:

I'm John Dogget, 1-shot vig. I killed theman.

We might as well wait for Haylen.

[camn]

What were the meanings of your previous crumbs, darla? (unless they are role related)

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Just flavor related, son's-sort-of-girlfriend

[Haylen]

Just for your info, I'm not online a 4am my time -_-

[Haylen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP5fGz2mW0A Lol, to top it off.

Somebody got suddenly defensive and is definitely following the thread, when she wants to.

Would you like fries with that?

I want to know what your point is. I posted a couple of pages ago that I was stressed and I still am.

And actually, that wasn't me being defensive. Me being defensive is threatening to rip your throat out with a rusty spoon if you don't lay off me because of course, the best defence is a good offence.

IRC, Haylen, camn was one of your towniest town reads yesterday and now she's scum with me based on nothing.

And a couple of posts ago I mentioned that it was because I wanted reactions from everyone and guess what? The only reaction I got was from you. Yes, I did get a few reactions from other people but yours pinged my scumdar.

[Haylen]

oh, in case you didn't get that, I'm X.

[Jahudo]

DarlaBlueEyes - William Mulder
Dekes - Melvin Frohike
Jahudo - John Dogget
pappums rat - Deep Throat
Haylen - X
Camn - Dana Scully
lewarcher82 - Marita Covarrubias
Amrun - Richard Langly

I'm glad there's no chance of a lylo character counter-claim now. Back to usual scumhunting for me.

[Amrun]

It's my 21st birthday so I won't be here much, starting now.

I'll check in and will probably post a bit, but not a lot.

[lewarcher82]

@Dekes: I will quit this discussion because it is pointless, but I wasn't playing dumb. I thought you had more than that single post to explain why you read pappums as townish.

Now back to us:

@Darla: you have been on site for 3 years and you expect that a in a nameclaim in a theme scum will claim scummy names? There are villains in the series, and they should exist in this game as well. Naturally scum used fake claims, and they managed to dodge the danger of a counterclaim even if we used popcorn. Therefore, they had fakeclaims and they used them.

On one thing, Darla is prolly right: I definitely believe the claims by the other two lone gunmen... they are not really alignment confirmed, but they almost are. Amrun and Dekes are unlikely to be scum.

@pappums(1): nice, so you are Deep Throat, right?

May I know what is the flaovur justification for you being a town RB???

@pappums(2): In the game you posted to prove that you genuinely thought scum has a forced order for submitting night actions there is no mention of what you are talking about in the scum qt posted by Vi, and the mod promised to post the PMs but then forgot to.

What kind of meta am I supposed to check???

@camn: you think we have 3 scum (= mylo) but you dislike the idea of a nl? Why? Saying that you dislike NL on unknown setup sounds like a nonsense to me.

[pappums rat]

i am really not liking haylen's recent posting. i had a good strong town read on sotty, and shortly after haylen replaced her she seemed to be town, but the past several pages have been really making me question her. im not ready to put her in the probscum category just yet, but she is definately making her way up there.

[camn]

I like scum lynch, not no lynch.
The scum won't nightkill an unknown. It will be me or Jahudo or maybe pappums. Someone who is not on the table as a lynch today at all. Then we will be in the same place we are now, only minus one Obv townie.

Show me the benefit?

[camn]

Ps:
Scumteam is sotty/jack/amrun (sotty/lewstre/amrun)
Gman gave them all away.

Reread him knowing that he knew!
He wants to distance, but not actually get anyone lynched. Early on he wants to draw the nightkill, later on he just wants to cause trouble.
This post especially catches my eye:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2848693

Gman is fixing to die, and posts a top 3 scumlist. THERE HAS TO BE SCUM ON THAT LIST!
At least 1. I think only 1. He is not trying to draw the nightkill at that point... Just trying to help the scum. Totally in line with claiming Mulder/cop in twilight, trying to draw a counter-tell.

Haylen is scum.

[camn]

For clarity,
Sotty=haylen

[lewarcher82]

PART 1: about camn's post

As long as you think there are obvtowns, a nl would be stupid. This is correct. I am not quite there yet, tho.

Moreover, I still don't understand why pappums should be town. I made two points in my last post. He didn't answer. Do you find them irrelevant? Are you really not bothered by the fact that a claimed town RB is still alive? Huh, wait, you claimed to be scully early and you are still alive, too...

and what do you think of my flavour-related question? Should he answer or not?

PART 2: Friend's activity.

Friend was suspecting GMan, Amrun and Sotty (=Haylen). He was defending camn, jack (=me) and told jahudo was town.
After her nameclaim, I now think Amrun is town. The only chance scum killed him to protect a scum member would be if Haylen was scum.

This, or they have a role cop.

Or pappums is scum, and this would explain why killing a simple protown player was preferred to killing a town RB. After all, Dekes and pappums FoS'd each other for one day, and now they are considering each other town because of a weird report.

Camn, can I ask people for comments about what I wrote on friend, or will you be mad at me if I ask questions?

[lewarcher82]

huh... anti-ninja device failed... good job on Gman's scumlist.

[Haylen]

Something doesn't quite feel right. I need to read something.

i am really not liking haylen's recent posting. i had a good strong town read on sotty, and shortly after haylen replaced her she seemed to be town, but the past several pages have been really making me question her.

You know that isn't viable until you explain why you don't like it, right and specifically what parts?

[Dekes]

@Haylen
I'm on your scumlist, anyway, so you calling my posts scummy is to be expected.


Lewarcher trying to clear me and Amrun is baaad. I don't see how Byers' flip clears the two us, especially with fakeclaims around. On the contrary, I believe it's not unlikely that one of the LGM is a fakelcaim to throw us off track.

As long as you think there are obvtowns, a nl would be stupid. This is correct. I am not quite there yet, tho.

Amrun and Dekes are unlikely to be scum.

Huh? Apparently you do have obvtown reads?

Okay, humor me, since you believe there is a high risk of MyLo today, where would you look for scum apart from pappums?

@Darla
I don't like that you're trying to solve everything through flavor. There may be some valid points somewehre in there, but if you're wrong, it'll always look bad.

@Amrun
Happy Birthday! You get a pass today.

Unvote, Vote: Lewarcher

Reading through GMan again and again, the main point that sticks out is that he really, really has a a hard time calling Jack scum.

Haylen can swing, too. I can call two random people scum, call it reaction fishing and then call somebody out for a scummy reaction who was scum in my eyes, anyway, and call all of that scumhunting, too. But I rather get involved here. I don't think she has done anything today but call me scum and come out of the woodwork when being accused.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

X, Deepthroat and Marita claims make me nervous. I'd guess at least 2 if not 3 are scum. If one is town I'd lean towards Marita or X. Deepthroat was only really in one ep.

Scully, the other two LGM, and myself I am positive are town. Will not see them lynched.

@Lew I may have joined 3 years ago but I've only become active again in Janurary. I took a year and half break and before then I sucked. XD but I am sure they have fake claims. I'm just saying if Marita is not a FC she's morally gray so it's a null tell either way.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Ebwop* John Doggett too. He's town. Not lynching.

[Dekes]

X, Deepthroat and Marita claims make me nervous. I'd guess at least 2 if not 3 are scum. If one is town I'd lean towards Marita or X. Deepthroat was only really in one ep.

And there goes your credit for X-Files knowledge. Deep Throat was definitely in many more episodes and he is the only one out of three who we do not see taking direct orders from the syndicate.

Who do you think is scum based on actions in this game?
Did you read through GMan to find any leads?

[Jahudo]

Lewarcher and Haylen can't both be scum, based on how GMan voted Sotty to indirectly pressure Jack.

I don't see GMan's "top three scumreads" right before he was lynched as being a time for him to purposefully insert a scumbuddy for distancing sake. He had been going after those three people since before his wagon so it was just a place for him to look like he was not flip-flopping. The scum would only be in there if his original vote on them was so badly made he wanted it to fail. (Ex: Use a point and hope it fails so it looks like he's distancing but not making the scum mad at him). I didn't get that feeling in any of his votes but I will look again now that I am thinking about this theory.

[Dekes]

Meh, looking through that post of GMan, you might have a point there.

But I don't want Haylen as useless tunneling town, I'd rather have her as scum and feel good about it.

[lewarcher82]

I already said where I would look apart from pappums, dekes. I would look at Haylen, and possibly at you. you either skim too quickly or select the contents to build scummy cases.

and there is a difference between saying that someone is unlikely to be scum and saying that someone is obvtown. ESPECIALLY on pseudo-mylo. I know better than thinking that flavour-claims actually

clear

anybody. I don't believe you don't see the difference. I think you are playing dumb on purpose to misrep me.

pappums: I asked you the flavour justification for Deep Throat being a town RB. Can I know it please?