Mafia 125: Khan's Game of Mafia (Game Over)

RedCoyote · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:08 pm

Oh, I see a theme. An honest townie trying to fight his way through PRs, scum, and at least one SK.

Cyberbob · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:34 pm

RedCoyote wrote:Oh, I see a theme. An honest townie trying to fight his way through PRs, scum, and at least one SK.

is this literally a thing that is being said seriously

RedCoyote · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:41 pm

Too real for you, Cyber? Can't handle it?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:17 am

SpyreX wrote:Just glance at the boldeds and then maybe that'll make you actually want to look at the theme

I see the theme, but who is being quoted?

iamausername · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:49 am

Continuing where I left off...

RedCoyote

I thought I'd somewhat made my peace with him, because although I still find the whole 'Antihero is my top suspect, but I'm just going to blindly assume that there's no support for that lynch without bothering to check' thing problematic, it mostly made sense to me as a Coyote/Antihero scumpair tell, and since I no longer believe that Antihero is scum, that doesn't work.

But then I went through his iso, and something still felt off, and then I went through his iso looking specifically for his opinions about Chevre, and now I believe I have whiplash.

RedCoyote wrote:
Dutch 548 wrote:I'm playing in another Mafia game (square enix mafia IV), and in that game, Katsuke recently joined as a replacement. She is quite active there, but at the same time she says she is a bit inactive at this Mafia because she is so incredibly busy. If you were really that busy, then you wouldn't join another game as a replacement.
The last time I used this argument against Kat, I was scum, Dutch. Are you?

This right here is setting all kinds of sirens wailing on my scumdar. But then for every post like that I find, there's another one that gives me completely the opposite feeling. It's kind of annoying. I should maybe catalogue them all and see what everyone else thinks. But not right now.

Also wondering how RedCoyote feels about PokerFace, given that he had Katsuki down as one of his top suspects way back when, and given PokerFace's generally lacking performance thus far.

Runner/Weatherman

If he's scum, he is doing a truly exceptional job of playing me. I can't see any reason to believe this is the case.

I'd forgotten that he has totally already made the exact same case I just made against PokerFace.

SpyreX

The thing with SpyreX is that he's totally scummy, BUT pretty much all the other people I think are at all likely to be scum are on him like flies on honey. So either there's some heavy bussing going down, or I have got something wrong somewhere. Like maybe some super cunning scum has snuck into my town list. Or maybe SpyreX is not scum, he's just having a bad game. But, that being the case, maaan, is he ever.

D1: "Gorrad is scum." Series of posts whining that no one is listening to him.
D2: "Dutch is scum." Series of posts whining that no one is listening to him.
D3: "RedCoyote is scum." What happens next?

It's just so lazy, you know? Once you've found your target for the day, that's it as far as putting any real effort in goes.

Added to that, probably the most suspicious interactions with CKD out of anyone. Specifically:

SpyreX wrote:And, CKD is cart before the horse to a degree. Lynchable on his own? Sure (60/40). A much, much better lynch after a Gorrad scum flip? Hot damn yes (80/20).

It's not just the "guys, let's lynch this townie first, and if he flips scum, THEN we can lynch CKD" thing, though obviously, there's strong scum motivation for that. It's the "lynchable on his own" bit that feels really off to me. I don't think town Spy would say that. I think he'd leave it at "lynch Gorrad, then we'll talk". I do think scum Spy who was worried about being linked to CKD would say it to try to prove that he wasn't.

I understand people being wary about the insta-wagon springing up at the start of the day, but don't make the mistake of assuming that 'being speed-wagoned' = 'town'. Check out this page, for example. VP Baltar is scum, and goes from zero votes to L-1 within a single page, and there's not even any bussing involved. It can happen.

Unvote

VOTE: SpyreX

I just persuaded myself back on board again. Plus PokerFace's reaction to my vote makes me feel a little better about him.

Dutch one · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:23 am

I'm so incredibly busy the next few days... exam week is very near now, I have to learn for that, and I have to make some other essays as well in the next few days (we lost a very big part, and now I have to rewrite everything in a few days...). Recently I've also bought a new game so I wasn't very active already, but now I really don't have any time.
I would like to have V/LA for the next 3 days, after those days I'll have a lot more time to reply (and I'll force myself to pay more attention to this).

SpyreX · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:33 am

DGB wrote:I see the theme, but who is being quoted?

......

Seriously?

----

The thing with SpyreX is that he's totally scummy, BUT pretty much all the other people I think are at all likely to be scum are on him like flies on honey. So either there's some heavy bussing going down, or I have got something wrong somewhere. Like maybe some super cunning scum has snuck into my town list. Or maybe SpyreX is not scum, he's just having a bad game. But, that being the case, maaan, is he ever.

D1: "Gorrad is scum." Series of posts whining that no one is listening to him.
D2: "Dutch is scum." Series of posts whining that no one is listening to him.
D3: "RedCoyote is scum." What happens next?

It's just so lazy, you know? Once you've found your target for the day, that's it as far as putting any real effort in goes.

Added to that, probably the most suspicious interactions with CKD out of anyone. Specifically:

It's not just the "guys, let's lynch this townie first, and if he flips scum, THEN we can lynch CKD" thing, though obviously, there's strong scum motivation for that. It's the "lynchable on his own" bit that feels really off to me. I don't think town Spy would say that. I think he'd leave it at "lynch Gorrad, then we'll talk". I do think scum Spy who was worried about being linked to CKD would say it to try to prove that he wasn't.

I understand people being wary about the insta-wagon springing up at the start of the day, but don't make the mistake of assuming that 'being speed-wagoned' = 'town'. Check out this page, for example. VP Baltar is scum, and goes from zero votes to L-1 within a single page, and there's not even any bussing involved. It can happen.

Ohh I'm not having a great game but wooooosh.

Yea, I thought gorrad was scum. Pretty sure you did too?

The others aren't dead so lets see how that plays out.

And CKD was a good lynch. I thought Gorrad was a better one AND if he was scum then CKD could eat hot death no probalo.

And why in the hell if I was "worried about being linked to CKD" would I mention him like that?

inHimshallibe · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:42 am

Cyberbob wrote:
RedCoyote wrote:Oh, I see a theme. An honest townie trying to fight his way through PRs, scum, and at least one SK.
is this literally a thing that is being said seriously

Day 3 pass imo.

inHimshallibe · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:44 am

Spyspy.

SpyreX · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:15 am

Dont you frown at me.

I can stomach getting lynched a lot more for "CKD buddying" versus "HIDER SAID SOOO" even if both are :headdesk: wrong.

Weatherman · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:37 am

@Dutch one: your content has been bordering on unacceptably low for too long. I've defended you but this is not okay. You are not suited for this site if this is your normal pattern. I know I haven't had good access lately either but another V/LA from you is pissing me off, frankly.

Weatherman · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:49 am

@mod:

we are in a desperate need of a vote count.

yabbaguy · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:59 am

RedCoyote wrote:Oh, I see a theme. An honest townie trying to fight his way through PRs, scum, and at least one SK.

Agreed with Cyberbob, this is a bad reply to a good point made against you.

Weatherman · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:01 am

I'm snapping to dutch one but i still can't deliver.

spyrex, pokerface and non-attention-getters korlash/cyberbob is the list i wanted to look thoroughly. tomorrow. sdhf,hgs-

SpyreX · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:55 am

4 of dutch's last 6 posts were shameless reread later promise.

1 was actual content.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:00 pm

Re-read-laters are always scum.

That means that SpyreX is bus'ing.

SpyreX · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:03 pm

DGB I am throttling you through spacetime with my mind.

I love you and all, but you are going to make my head explode.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:10 pm

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 7

"I have had it with these monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane!"

- Samuel L. Jackson

SpyreX

- 3 - PokerFace, Korlash, iamausername

RedCoyote

- 3 - yabbaguy, SpyreX, Cyberbob

inHimshallibe

- 2 - RedCoyote, Kmd4390

Players not voting:

Antihero, DrippingGoofball, Dutch one, inHimshallibe, Weatherman

Notes/Prods

:
- No prods
- Current Deadline: Secret

Cyberbob · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:50 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:Re-read-laters are always scum.

Denied. I do that in almost every game I'm in if I want to get a quick post down but won't have enough time to really do a thing justice until later on.

SpyreX · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:08 pm

Later on is never coming.

That's the issue there.

I'd STILL be ecstatic if he took rope. And then maybe a scum flip there would get some of this whole blah blah about me to die in the fires where it belongs

Korlash · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:33 pm

Another "Lets lynch someone and cross our fingers he

may be

scum!" from Spy! My how the times stay the same...

DGB why are you not voting Spy?

Poker wrote:Also seriously man I swore you were gonna post a monty python video when I made that spanish inquistion comment earlier. I was so disappointed

I didn't want to ruin the moment man... Just knowing you got it was enough...

RedCoyote · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:56 pm

yabba 1562 wrote:Agreed with Cyberbob, this is a bad reply to a good point made against you.

No, it's damn silly. This whole argument against me is silly. All either of them did was post a bunch of my old posts (or summarize, in Cyber's case) to show me giving reads over the course of the game completely out of any sort of context. The only implication or "theme" is that I've been constantly adapting my reads as the game progresses.

If that's scummy then may every town have a rope for me in perpetuity.

SpyreX · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:07 pm

Yea, you're right.

I'm saying "He may be scum" because I don't know. That's actually the whole premise of the game?

I was wrong on Gorrad. That's fine. It happens.

The only options from there are regroup and try again or sit and watch paint dry - And this game sure as hell has too many people at the paint booth so against my better judgment I opted for the former. Which has, repeatedly, been an exercise in futility.

Which is great. It makes for a hoot and a holler when its screaming into the chamber hoping that maybe I'll at least pick up my own echo. Alas, the chamber is long and winding so while I hold my breath I'll see the heat death of the universe before anything actually returns to my now dead ears.

I'm on this site every damn day and every damn day I look at this game and even the

thought

of posting in it is demoralizing. Because it doesn't matter. Lynch SOMEONE. Do SOMETHING. I dont even care at this point if its me.

Good lord I'm glad this is my last one for a while.

RedCoyote · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:19 pm

Let's vote inHim then. I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to defend inHim. This sucker has been protected since, essentially, the second or third page. DGB gave him a thumbs up and everyone has been tripping over themselves to ignore anything inHim has or hasn't done here. When's the last time you thought to yourself, "Oh, yeah, inHim had a big presence on that wagon", or, "Yeah, inHim really stuck his neck out to defend that person"? You want to know why you can't think of these things? Because if he's not fluffing it up, he's offering his support to virtually any wagon around. He's been unprincipled and unwilling to engage anyone over anything substantial for just about this entire game. He needs to go, and he needed to go yesterday.

SpyreX · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:38 pm

Because the sheer volume of players means SOME of these awesome players are town?

And when weighed against Dutch's 'presence' this game or your myriad of votes prefaced with some version of "this is because of what X said about the person I'm voting in case I'm wrong" AND the 180's under the guise of 'stances change' when, at least for me, the difference was you throwing a hammer on someone you said was town and a hider giving a perfect excuse for a choo-choo wagon (but that was real honest sentiment, promise) makes inHim a very, very secondary issue.

Of course I'm just saying everyone is scum and am way more concerned with my survival or whatever else what with the posting and all.