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Debonair Danny DiPietro · Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:03 pm

Yes, Kise there are no other wrestlers from Minneapolis I could claim.

@Mod: Do I have the ability to move the other titles around? Because if so that'd be awesome for me to know, thanks

Nero Cain · Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:06 pm

You

might

be correct, Primate. But don't you feel that its a lil' bit lacking? He has/had EXACTLY two scum reads in a 53 page game?

"And no,

I never said I think IS is scummy

and I honestly reckon he's probably town. Only think he's done

I think is scummy

is the D1 hammer U-turn."

So people can do scummy things but they aren't scummy? IDK about this. You see, I don't have any inside information or w/e so when I see something scummy I will assume that they are potential scum. I don't this IS should get a pass for playing troll.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:10 pm

Kise, Jason was a bomb, which isn't really a vig proper. Especially in a very large game, it's not uncommon for there to be multiple killing roles for the town. Otherwise these games take forever and a day. I do agree that based on flavor Thor was killed by Snake. What I don't agree on is that it is likely there are only two killing factions in this game, mafia and SK. Seems limited for such a large game. I also don't see why a doc would target you last night, because based on your D1 play you would have been about the last person I'd expect the mafia to target. Can you tell me why you think the scum wanted to take you out?

Kise · Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:13 pm

Nuff said.

Those were generally all heels BTW.
Also, I could be wrong but I believe you [DDD] can choose which phase that titles change hands - excluding your own title.

@VP: Speculation, speculation. Maybe the scum thought KK would be protected, so they went for the other guy that made it to the end of the Rumble..? Who knows what their reason is. I just have a scene showing that I'm being attacked.

Primate · Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:17 pm

@NC: I do think it's lacking and a bit poor, yeah, I'd expect more and think that riding opinions like that is scummy, especially when the two opinions mentioned happened to be completely unoriginal, the two biggest wagons of the game so far.

And yeah, people do scummy things and town things, you don't let single things influence your entire view of a person. I don't think IS is generally scummy, I think one thing he did is. As for giving him a pass based on playing troll I get your point and I really don't think I'm doing that. That's a thought that's a the front of my mind when reading him, but I really don't think I am.

@VP: Pick someone else and I'll join you. I prefer Kise as town to you.

Internet Stranger · Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:29 pm

So is Nero saying that in a game with 20-whatever people, im supposed ton have 7-8 scum already lined up by Day 2? Silly Nero.

Anyways, I went through and ISO'ed some people. Are you all trying to tell me that the play of Erratus and Empking is somehow better? Look at them yourself. DO IT. NOW.
Barely any content, not much opinion, vote swinging, massive lurking. They are both the king of fluffy one liners.

If you want a good one to compare against. I think Hoppster is doing what a regular scumhunter is doing.

So why are Erratus and EMpking getting passes and im getting the whipping stick? All you all are saying is that lurking is the best option instead of trying to root out the scum. Primate is right. Scum are coming after me thinking im an easy lynch. Oh hey, look at that, Erratus AND Empking are voting for me voting for me. Imagine my shock.
I can GUARANTEE you that one of those two is 100% scum.

Kise · Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:34 pm

Guarantee is a strong word to use. I think Nero is a bit overeager, but that doesn't make him scum. Silly, perhaps, I can agree to. (u_u)

Erratus Apathos · Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:09 pm

I laughed at IS's terrible case on me.

"Barely any content"

WRONG.

I have plenty of content and anyone can look through my iso and see that.

"not much opinion"

WRONG.

I have stated that I suspect IS, Furc, and Scott.

"Vote swinging" This is the only thing you've got right about me. That being said, I dare you to point to

any

of my vote shifts and show how it would have been protown for me to keep that vote.

"massive lurking"

WRONG.

I have never lurked.

"king of fluffy one liners"

WRONG.

Here are all my non-Rumble one liners: 541, 1065, and 1306. None of those are fluffy.

Do I believe this case is the result of legitimate scumhunting? No I don't, and neither should you.

chesskid3 · Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:13 pm

^ scum

Internet Stranger · Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:17 pm

Interesting how you suddenly resurface the second I call you out. Thats not suspicious at all, right?

Yes, this is the same guy that figures adding "Furc is scum about 100 times" in a spamalicious thread is a rightous way to get someone lynched.

Scott Brosius · Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:46 pm

Yes I was referring to Trendall and Snake. I'm not going to make up cases on people just for the sake of having cases.

As for 1339 I always love the HERES A GROUP OF PPL. I BET THERE ARE SCUM IN HERE. Obviously. I can pick any random group of 8 people from this game and say that there is scum in here. It appears like you are doing something when it actually accomplishes nothing and is fluff.

Erratus Apathos · Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:00 pm

I like how you say I "suddenly resurface[d]", as though I hadn't just posted yesterday. How the hell would that even be scummy, like what, it would've been more pro-town if I waited or some shit? Makes perfect sense.

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Nero Cain · Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:59 pm

1354-I'm not letteting a

SINGLE

thing influence my view of IS. IMO, IS has done

SEVERAL

scummy things. I don't know how you can't see that.

I'm REALLY hating this "IS is too scummy to be scum" defense I'm hearing from people.

1355-Not sure if you realize this Primate and I were discussing Sco Bro and his lack of reads but its nice to know that you're so worried about being outted your going to defend yourself against a post that's unrelated to you.

In general, a

sincere

SHOULD have a good 3 or 4 scumspects at any given time. Any thing less especially when they are all unoriginal reads looks faux.

I also don't buy the deflect to EA and Emp. You

GUARANTEED

that one of them was scum but didn't vote? Nice to know how sincere you are with your reads.

1356-Maybe. The smart thing would be to wait for an IS flip first but I litterally cannot understand why he's being defended at all so from my POV it deff looks like IS is scum or he's town being defended by scum for the town cred.

1360-I refer you to Primate's 1354. I think he summed it up quite nicely.

Why do you think that list of 8 names were RANDOM? Discredit moar?

Scott Brosius · Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:07 pm

I fail to see how my reads were original. I was the FIRST person on Snake IN 684 but I realized I wasn't going to get a wagon going on him D1. That is the definition of being original. Trendall, not so original but completely scummy. So Primate's point is weak.

Can you show me where I said your list was random? I was suggesting that providing that list is as useful as me picking off 8 random names from the alive players and saying there are scum in here. Based on probability we are going to find scum in any group of people you list. It is an ineffective way to scumhunt while giving the guise that you are actually doing something productive.

In conclusion, you are a misrep machine.

VasudeVa · Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:43 pm

VPB why are you wasting time with this? Kise's 100% Town. Scum don't claim like that D2.

I have a bone to pick with you though. You were very interested in getting me to post in this game, but you never acknowledged my points even when I called you out on it. Something is wrong with that.

Also, you have weakly defended GMan in the first link above. Care to elaborate more on that?

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GMan going to "His case sucks, and I dun wanna deal with his tunneling' is very scummy.
I have a total of 16-ish posts in a 55 page game. If he was Town, why would he act all 'this guy sucks and his tunneling is annoying' when I don't think I've been 'intensive'(his words) in my tunnel yet. Why would he misrep and call it intensive, as Town, anyway? It's a tunnel, sure but an intensive one? I've won very few votes on him.

bristep123 · Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:46 pm

this is a prod avoid, had a busy weekend and am catching up from Saturday night on, but need to leave for work in about 15 minutes.

Hoppster · Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:13 pm

@ KK: Is that a genuine question, or a suspicion/statement phrased as a question? If it was a question, then I assume it was regarding my most recent post, which was just a quick catch-up post, as there had been a crap-load of posts.

Anybody else think there's a bristep-Snake connection? A terrible attempt at bussing here, where bristep tries to find a reason to hop on the Snake wagon and totally fails.

This post as well, to a lesser extent: not really sure why Snake bothers to call out bristep.

jediknight's post #1224 strikes me as odd. He's asking vezok for a name claim despite having a town read? I really don't see how the name claim helps much other than give scum information. Also, he hasn't addressed the issue of him getting all flustered regarding wording here.

Dropkick: jediknight

@ EA: Why did you ditch your whole "FURC IS SCUM" thing here? Before that you're like "FURC NEEDS TO DIEEEEEE" but then you decide to hop on the IS wagon for something that doesn't strike me as a relatively scummy post?

Erratus Apathos · Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:41 pm

Furc is still scum, but so is IS and that's where the wagon is.

Lowell · Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:56 pm

prod avoidance. I'm having trouble keeping up, will do my best this week.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:54 am

@Primate: You have a really dense cadence to your writing that makes it hard to parse but I think I understand a little bit better.

Keep in mind that vezokpiraka didn't learn that DDD is Shawn Daivari. DDD denied being Shawn Daivari and vezokpiraka admitted that he came by the name because he learned that DDD's "billed from" hometown is Minneapolis, Minnesota and made a leaping assumption after questionable research.

@Scott Brosius: Do you feel my vote is on Internet Stranger because of his brash attitude?

Kise is losing towie points fast. I may have to move my vote at some point.
Also this is accurate and funny.

@Hoppster: It was just a prod to get you to scumhunt. You're dropping quite a bit on my scumdar and not just because other are overtaking you.

AurorusVox · Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:55 am

/AV's I should be working instead of playing mafia post

- I don't like Kise's Watcher speculation, and I don't get why he thinks IS attacked him; poor reasoning to lay down a popular vote? Also (I put on my robe and tinfoil hat) there's a chance Kise himself sent in a failed kill as part of the mafia, and wanted to capitalise on it by claiming he was attacked and UNK...

- I tried Vezo's imdb/ctrl+f method and I got Jesse Ventura first too. So he's been caught in a lie but, its a weak gambit if he's part of a scumteam. Though the upside if it works is killing off an UNK player

- I found IS to be pro-town and doing a good job pressuring DDD during the whole fiasco. It was misguided but he stuck to his guns with it.

- Bristep's 1272 is badvoting. I like the bussing/distancing speculation.

- I don't like that EA appears almost immediately to defend himself. Yes you may have posted yesterday but you clearly had nothing of worth to say except in defence. Plus Chess' gut reads can be scarily accurate. Its worth some more pressure.

Stinkface: Erratus Apathos

VP Baltar · Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:58 am

@Kise - Don't quote chesskid for anything. You're better than that.

@Primate - where is your Kise-town read coming from?

@ Vas - I was and still am interested in getting you in this game. You're lurky when you're scum so I like to see you active. You're not really being that here and it bothers me to some extent. Of course, the flip side of the coin is that sometimes as town you get blinders and tunnelvision like mad, which you're also doing here. Honestly, I haven't given your Gman case that close of a look simply because I haven't found it that interesting. Your original post of OMGUS-gate certainly didn't sway me, so maybe that's part of it too and I need to go back over it with a fine tooth comb. As far as weakly defending Gman, that is quite an overstatement. Encouraging him to post so I can get a better read is a more accurate term. Tell you what, I will give your Gman case a more indepth look and give you my extensive opinions on it if you do the same for what I've been saying about Kise, cause he's most certainly not 100% town. He's not even making sense half the time, so give it an actual look. Deal?

@Hoppster - wtf are you talking about bristep-Snake connection? Snake was an SK...they tend to be self-aligned.

Hulk Smash: Erratus Apathos

vezokpiraka · Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:47 am

I still want a name claim from DDD.

Give me one reason you that makes claiming your name bad.

Internet Stranger · Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:59 am

I guess I have to vote because Nero said so. Don't worry, I'm sure Nero will go way out of his way to ignore everything and everyone in hopes of finding something scummy about a simple vote post. Either way, based on what I said and Erratus suddenly appearing cra) overreaction defense, I think I got me a scum. Now if Empking ever decides to stop lurking, we can get a read on him too.

Flying Jalapeno crossface : Erratus Apathos

jediknight · Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:16 am

Hoppster...you're reaching. A name claim rather than a full claim was perfectly appropriate in this case. I wanted to see if the role matched what he was claiming. Good ole JR certainly seems like the type of role (as a famous WWE/F) announcer that would get that sort of information. I just don't think he went about trying to use his information in the right way.

As for the wording. I have addressed it and I'm done with it. It wasn't so far outside the realm of possibility to vote the way I did so early in day 1. I'm back after a four year absence from mafia and I don't know all the lingo. If that slip is what you're voting me for then by all means go crazy. You'll be wrong but have at it.