Mini 1127 Cult vs Masons OVER. TOWN WINS

[AdumbroDeus]

[quote="AdumbroDeus]Incorrect, you can establish that town in the given situation wouldn't do what was done. If I was, as I said, still reading the game and figuring out who to vote, why wouldn't I decide to not toss it out on somebody that was l-1 a few posts ago if I wasn't sure he was my first choice for lynch or at least a compromise lynch.

Right, but the thing is there is always gray area. Rarely do people do things as scum that they would NEVER do as town, and the opposite is true as well.
Sure it's

possible

that you're genuine and doing these things as town, but that doesn't mean I think you

are

.
A lot of things are "possible" and it's quite easy to reason your way to a viable explanation for your actions.
But I still have to make my own decisions, and come up with my own conclusions. And my conclusion is that you're lying.

Vote: AdumbroDeus

Die scum.[/quote][/quote]

*sigh*

I'm already lynched so I have no reason to lie now.


The point in using logic is to catch the inconsistencies, yes it's rare that people do actions as scum that they would NEVER do as town, but there are different reasons, and the key to actually catching scum is inconsistencies in WHY they did it.


Frankly, it never crossed my mind that not voting there was scummy. I'm town so I honestly wasn't concerned at all with whether other people would interpret my actions as scummy because... well I'm town, survival mode was not engaged and my interest was in finding and catching scum.

[CooLDoG]

damn, I could have had the hammer, look how andy jumped on the wagon right after parama said that their wasn't scum on it.

[AurorusVox]

Actually Adumbro you do have a reason to lie so I'll wait for the flip to trust your VT claim. I'd have preferred an Andy lynch but the wagon on ADD did have a nicer group of people on it so I understand whoever it was who used that as the basis of their vote >_>"

[chesskid3]

Me and Kats lol.

[Parama]

Deadline isn't for like 4 more hours btw <_< You hammered about 12 hours too early but at least we got a scum lynch out of it

[Parama]

BTW

I'm already lynched so I have no reason to lie now.

is an outright lie. Scum can totally lie - last minute WIFOM, y'know. Especially since, in almost every case, a scum lynched D1 has buddies (third parties aside, of course, but in this game, well... that's really more likely.)

[Andrius]

Last minute WIFOM is prevalant in games now.
And deadline isn't for a couple more hours, as Parama said.

[Exe]

Oh, deadline was PM. O.o it was really really early when I posted...

I'm fine with it though. I've still got my money on ADD-scum, and the whole "no reason to lie," is, like you both said, complete crap.
I've had too many scum pull that move on me to ever trust anything but a flip

[Parama]

It happened in my very first mafia game, which is exactly why I only believe what the mod says in terms of alignment. Oh, Pie.

[chesskid3]

but
there was no wifom in that post
so
why would he even bother as scum

[AdumbroDeus]

Eh, ok, I did pretend I was VT after I won in majora's mask mafia on smashboards, but townies did lie like 3 times so I was hedging my bets just in case they could snatch victory from us somehow.


But as I've said before you can safely assume I'm VT because if I flip scum it's easy enough to just ignore what I said and go with whatever plans assumed I was scum.


Regardless, as I said, parama is scum, just compare the level and amount of content he's made in the town games, as well as the tone, in those games he was trying to attract attention and actually get his reads lynched, here he's doing everything to be invisible.


Seriously, discussion time, if I'm scum, what does that say about people's alignment? What about if I'm town? We have a long twilight, utilize it for God's sake.

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

Adumbro - 7- Nacho, Plum, Parama, Andrius, chesskid, kat, Exe

Andrius -3- cooldog, ender, Adumbro
Exe - 1 - Auro
Ender - 1 - Vas

A lynch was reached at Post 349.

AdumbroDeus, Vanilla Townie, was lynched Day 1

Deadline for night actions is Tuesday at 11:59 PM EST. Day will probably begin some time around Thursday morning.

[Kmd4390]

AurorusVox, Vanilla Townie, died night 1

Day 2 Begins.

Deadline is March 10 at 3:27 AM EST

[Katsuki]

Vote: Andrius

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

Andrius -1- Kat

Not Voting: Nacho, Plum, Parama, Andrius, Chesskid, Exe, cooldog, ender, Vas

Deadline is March 10 at 3:27 AM EST

[Andrius]

Parama
nachomamma8
Plum
Exe

List of my top scumreads, right here. Drop Exe first.

So looking at: Parama, Nacho, Plum.

Also, I'm going to look into chesskid's play in a game, since he flipped Cult Recruiter and all.

I'll try to be less abrasive and insulting. It just SUCKS when you get into a game you love and with players you love and then its just spoiled by a fourth of the town lurking and stuff. Remember Succession Mafia? I was the only townie who wasn't lurking hardcore. And they wonder why they lost.

Will have to reread/ISO for more insight into these suspects. Going to drop a

Vote: Exe

until the reread.

-Andy

[Andrius]

Top three in the list are likely Cult Recruiters.
Forgot that piece.

-Andy

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

Andrius -1- Kat
Exe - 1 - Andrius

Not Voting: Nacho, Plum, Parama, Chesskid, Exe, cooldog, ender, Vas

Deadline is March 10 at 3:27 AM EST

[VasudeVa]

Vote: Ender

Still think we should be pressuring lurkers.

[Andrius]

Not a bad idea, but I highly doubt the CR is amongst the lurkers.

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

Andrius -1- Kat
Exe - 1 - Andrius
ender - 1 - Vas

Not Voting: Nacho, Plum, Parama, Chesskid, Exe, cooldog, ender

Deadline is March 10 at 3:27 AM EST

[chesskid3]

Fair enough Andy, but I'd rather not talk about that game, it benig ongoing and all.
You're welcome to look for CR chesskid tells though if you want.

[Parama]

vote: Andrius

He's scum.

[CooLDoG]

Parama
nachomamma8
Plum
Exe

List of my top scumreads, right here. Drop Exe first.

So looking at: Parama, Nacho, Plum.

Also, I'm going to look into chesskid's play in a game, since he flipped Cult Recruiter and all.

I'll try to be less abrasive and insulting. It just SUCKS when you get into a game you love and with players you love and then its just spoiled by a fourth of the town lurking and stuff. Remember Succession Mafia? I was the only townie who wasn't lurking hardcore. And they wonder why they lost.

Will have to reread/ISO for more insight into these suspects. Going to drop a

Vote: Exe

until the reread.

-Andy

Assuming your scum list is in order, which I think it is. Why are you not voting for Parama? He is on the top of your list.

also defend this post:

Hey guys. I'm totally not feeling the mafia fervor like I used to, and my activity levels are suffering across the board. I'm just fed up with alot of different games and people so I'm not as into the game as I used to be.

Unvote, Vote: Adumbrodeus

More likely CR than Exe.
VAS </3
ender and chess need posting now.
I don't have much to say right now that hasn't been said. My willpower for mafia is at a low, and I'll claim if necessary but will vote ADD/Exe, with ADD over Exe for sure.

-Andy

You jump on the adb wagon without any real reasons.

vote:andy

[chesskid3]

dear god

Vote; cooldog