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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:07 pm

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Move Count 1.9!


Trendall - 5 (Primate, Kublai Khan, Gobots, VP Baltar, chesskid3)
Scott Brosius - 4 (Erratus Apathos, SnakePlissken, Hoppster, bristep123)
Thor665 - 3 (sottyrulez, Lowell, GMan)
Baby Spice - 2 (Debonair Danny DiPietro, AurorusVox)
AurorusVox - 2 (Thor665, Baby Spice)
Nero Cain - 2 (Internet Stranger, jasonT1989)
Gobots - 2 (Vezokpiraka, Kise)
chesskid3 - 1 (jediknight)
Internet Stranger - 1 (Nero Cain)
Hoppster - 1 (Furcolow)
SnakePlissken - 1 (Scott Brosius)
GMan - 1 (VasudeVa)

Not voting - 2 (Trendall, Bella)

With 27 superstars active it takes 14 to eliminate a superstar.


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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:18 pm

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clothesline scott brosius


Reading back I actually thought the same thing as others: namely, that scott has been more sizzle than steak since we started playing
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If he had come back and said, "oh, sorry, been busy, lurking, etc." I probably would have let it go (god knows I'm not one to criticize early-game lurking). But the last few posts don't give that vibe. They give the "this is what I am, deal with it" vibe, which is not what he promised.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:27 pm

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Actually AV, I just checked the rules and unvotes aren't required so we were both wrong with that one.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:55 pm

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I could work with a scum brosius lynch. I love competing wagons anyway.

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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:06 pm

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@KK: It's not necessarily the exact use of it, although I know I worded it that way, it's more on HOW he used it. I felt like the way he used it was really defensive. Although I find him scum, I'm going to have to look elsewhere, apparently, as I've only drawn criticism for something I legitimately felt was scummy

I am going to jump on the Trendall wagon, as it seems very pro-town to me. I didn't like his "all I know is I'm town" post in #774. It's something that I myself have done in the past, and players really need to be broken of that habit. Anyone can say they're town, but that doesn't mean they're not lying.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:27 pm

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Lowells vote on SB is opportunistic and scummy.

Furcs vote on Trendall is opportunistic and scummy.

IS and Bella are vig bait.

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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:39 pm

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How is my vote opportunistic or scummy? His 774 was terrible. Are you denying the fact I believe he's scum? Because you're totally in my head.

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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:05 am

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I swear I was going to ignore Furc for the entire rest of the game but ...

He's right.

Trendall's #774 is pretty bad. But worse, I went and had a quick look at his old games. Of the seven posts he's made here, #774 is the only one that looks even kinda vaguely normal for him. The rest are promises and don't know's and things.

It's like he's a different person.

AV, Fail again.
You have yet to show me posting nothing but fluff so your arguement fails completely.
People who voted and nothing else, bad. People who voted and posted content, good. Something like half my posts during the rumble were content posts. Please proove where there was no content, just fluff for this period.

You have claimed that I was voting a VI, which I deny whilst you vote for me whom others claim is a VI which you deny.
These are the same circumstances, so what makes me scum and you town then? Or vice verca?
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:08 am

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Trendall votes are not opportunistic. I really like bristep's last post on him and my original reason for voting was the fact that his 774 is all about proclaiming he is town and trying to appease those on his wagon rather than scum hunting. I am actually set on a Trendall lynch at this point. I'm sure there are some power player scums out there today that we might be able to lynch today if we really pressured them (still not so sure about AV being town here), but I'll take a noob-scum on day 1.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:13 am

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No one seems to have noticed that once again Chess votes without putting any resoning down, I'm not about to change my vote and I don't believe that it was OMUGUS either. But Seriously Chess?
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:34 am

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Chess is town. I clearly demonstrated that earlier. Time to move on and lynch Trendall, who is scum.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:58 am

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And you know that for certain do you VP B? If so care to explain how?
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:01 am

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I am like 90% certain chesskid is town based upon his reaction to me calling him scum. You can read it yourself. Even if you tend to disagree with me, I'd add the point that most people do not seem interested in his lynch today, so perhaps it's time you switch to a different suspect. This is a large game, and we need to keep moving toward actual lynches instead of obsessing over one and two vote wagons.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:01 am

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Trendall is the misslynch of the century
Errathos is scum
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:07 am

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Scott: We're voting for Thor for his heavy Baby Spice defence. Unless you want to claim Thor does this in all his games, this isn't a playstyle thing. I believe it was IS that spoke about Thor's tendency to instigate. See the last few posts in our ISO for details.

Baby, what do you think about Thor?

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vote look bad because it lacks any real explanation. Buzz words aren't cool if you aren't going to detail just how they apply.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:16 am

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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:47 am

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@BS can you please answer my question, thank you.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:35 am

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@Gobots - I was wanting to run him up because of the way he joked about the wiki tells. Looking at his past games proves he actually believed what he was saying thus removing the scumtell I was excited about.

@sottyrulez - first off, you're missing the point of why I actually said BS was town. Second, you're saying I'm 'over defending' a player who has been consistently listed as a top suspect by multiple players, and despite a fair number of players even calling her town off *my* scumminess she is now the top vote leader. I don't think I'm over reacting at all. I think i just saw the writing on the wall. For heaven's sake, even vezo is seeing this, why aren't you?

Oh gawds, a towntell from Erratus via actual scumhunting! Be still my heart.

[url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p2843792]IS still thinks I am obv. scum for asking people their opinions of others...yes.

Like new wagon now that AV at least looks like she's working - look forward to what she has when she can say it.

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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:10 am

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Definately a better wagon than Brosius, mostly because I actually like SB's vote on Snake.

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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:26 am

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Thor if anyone is missing the point it is you. It is one thing to call someone town but to out right defend a case that was put up against them on day one no less doesn't add up. Why wouldn't you let Baby defend herself first before cutting down AV's case? Surely her reactions would enable you to strengthen your read of her no?
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:37 am

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Because I'm obv scum blatantly buddying in thread because that's how I always play as scum?

I'd like your question a lot better if it didn't require me to have to argue why I'm not a terribad player when I play scum. I didn't need a further read because my read was awesome and totally sold me - it's other people who wanted more of a read on her. I wanted more of a read on the people attacking her and played to generate those, not generate them from her. Derpy, derp, derp.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:06 am

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Grr, that's a tough question DDD. I have too much personal meta of them messing with my read. If I was going on gameplay alone, it's an easy scum read. If I consider meta factors things get murkier with them. But to directly answer your question, I'd still pick scum. I've been bothered by them for a bit because their scum hunting seems very uninvolved and ineffectual so far.

I'd like your opinion on them as well actually.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:31 am

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Fuck, I was going to say an easy scum read because they have been reading that way to me but when I started my write-up I started to see some parallels between their play and my play in Utopia and now I'm getting paranoid again that I'm reading the Thor/Sottyrulez thing backwards.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:49 am

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:?

VP what's your Thor read then? I don't think we're uninvolved at all, not lately. We had a slow start for reasons that aren't game related. I get it will take awhile to wipe that away but we're working at it. If you think we're barking up the wrong tree with Thor then open up the discussion as to why at least.

Thor, when have we said you are terribad scum player? I don't like how you quickly twist to this strange selfmeta defense (this is the second time). I don't buy the fact that you don't need more of a read when the game has barely even started.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:52 am

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Anyone using a self meta defence is scummy in my eyes as then it can be open to minupulation... they say 'this is how I play as scum' so as to avoid being suspected.

Self Meta defenses are suspect to me to say the least.

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